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you can see that it's finally the weekend Cool
enjoy time with your loved ones Smiley

There's no need to wait for the weekend to spend time with your loved ones.

What if my loved one is the WO?

conflict of interest. and you know.. the rules for when that happens

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I had a good laugh reading all the replies to Peter Schiff's gold coverage complaint tweet in wake of the $43 ant gain.

https://twitter.com/PeterSchiff/status/1763641654144028767
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A nice documentary for any traders here who still think derivative trading back and forth > hodling:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5w-dEgIU1M

AND this is why when CBOE announced they would tame bitcoin it was not an idle threat.

Fortunately all they managed to do was cool it.

Which btw, this is what is wrong with S2f model as I mentioned back then, it does not take derivatives into account.

*far be it from me to say I told you so.
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Nice quiet saturday before the next leg to 66 this week!
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Several knowledgeable commentators (Novo is one) mentioned over the weekend that the leverage is high right now.
Also, some meme coins popped 70-120% in a week, which to me always indicates that the market is probably overheating.
The latter only peripherally relates to bitcoin, but, still...

Bottom line: it wouldn't surprise me if we correct 10-15% from here (to 53-56K) before rallying into the halving, but I will not try to time it as 10% lower is nothing comparing to at least 200-300% possible upside to 180-250K. Wouldn't want to miss the latter.

Yeah.. maybe if we are consolidating between $58.5 and $64k, then there might be slightly greater odds to break down rather than breaking up - even though part of the problem is the ongoing shortage of coins that seem to exist for the weekly ETF buys, which don't tend to be trading vehicles .. they are more like longer term HODL vehicles that will reallocate once in a while.

But, hey, potentially similar to you, I am not exactly strongly convicted in regards to which way a break will come, because I can recognize and appreciate how frothy the last couple of weeks have seemed, which would justify a correction, but at the same time, if there is a correction, then that means someone is selling coins.. so I am not sure if there are enough of the weak hands wanting to sell right now... but still not going to be surprised either way... while at the same time, I would be surprised to hang out in this exact same range for more than a week or two if we measure from the beginning (which maybe we could measure from last Wednesday when we arrived here).

A nice documentary for any traders here who still think derivative trading back and forth > hodling:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5w-dEgIU1M
The quote close to the end (from a mathematician who has proven that market is "not efficient"): "essentially, you can beat the market if you have large computational resources, etc."
Ahem...I wonder what Google, Microsoft, Nvidia and OpenAI are doing with this?
Imho, whatever inefficiencies they find, they would extract it from the everyday mom and pop investors who "blindly" invest in indices, mostly.
I know that the Medallion fund (Simons) did turn it's attention to bitcoin at some point a few years ago.

That is another one of the benefits of asymmetric information, including if we might conclude that the halvening is not priced in.. even though right now, there might be some additional force upon the BTC prices through the ETFs and with knowledge that the halvening is going to make the supply of BTC worse (harder to come by), yet the halvening is still likely not priced in because people do not exactly realize it and act upon it until after it has already happened....

and it takes a while with the suffering of fewer and fewer coins available to really affect the price, but then we already have fewer and fewer coins available because they are getting sucked up by the ETFs. and at the same time the halvening is coming and so.. ultimately, asymmetric information results in this is gentlemen.

A nice documentary for any traders here who still think derivative trading back and forth > hodling:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5w-dEgIU1M
AND this is why when CBOE announced they would tame bitcoin it was not an idle threat.

Fortunately all they managed to do was cool it.

Which btw, this is what is wrong with S2f model as I mentioned back then, it does not take derivatives into account.

*far be it from me to say I told you so.

Protip: You are premature in proclaiming the stock to flow model as dead. #justsaying

Nice quiet saturday before the next leg to 66 this week!

You really think so?  and if so, why stop there?  #asking for my lil selfie
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AND this is why when CBOE announced they would tame bitcoin it was not an idle threat.

Fortunately all they managed to do was cool it.

Which btw, this is what is wrong with S2f model as I mentioned back then, it does not take derivatives into account.

*far be it from me to say I told you so.

Protip: You are premature in proclaiming the stock to flow model as dead. #justsaying


I would have to agree there. Somewhat inaccurate (perhaps due to not accounting for derivatives?), But I doubt 100% accuracy is possible for any prediction model. The pattern is still within a margin of error which itself appears constantly proportional to the s2f model.
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I've been thinking about how I designed an instrument of death (in the right hands... or left hands as long as they're also the right hands as the case may be) from a benign and beautiful design from the mind of sirazimuth and touted it as a potential WO collectible.  I know not everyone is a fan of weapons so I've decided to also turn it into a 60 second timer so you can check your pulse when we continue our journey to the moon and beyond come Monday.

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Accounting Standards Update 2023-08 might be an important contribution to the special status of this bull cycle. It has been mentioned before, but the consequences haven't struck me until now.

This update to accounting rules states that some assets (you know the C word? Well, bitcoin in particular) have to be accounted at fair value in balance sheets. "Fair value" in this context is basically market value. It used to be different: With the old rules, if you had bitcoin on your balance and you bought low, you'd still look (balance wise) as poor as when you bought it. With the new rules, you appear to be as rich (balance wise) as the bitcoin price allows.

The update will become mandatory at the end of 2024, but companies could opt in by the end of 2023. Some well known entrepreneurs opted in as early as they could. Guess one name? Michael "Lazereye" Saylor.

Why is this such a big deal? Because it allows companies to stuff btc in their balance sheets in place of cash or gold; btc that can be bought, hedl there and left to grow, selling only when necessary. In other words, the new rules could (and I'm guessing, will) turn several companies (again: think MicroStrategy) into followers of JimboToronto's way:

"Buy whenever you can, sell only when necessary."

We still have no idea what's coming, guys. Or should I say gentlemen?
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Accounting Standards Update 2023-08 might be an important contribution to the special status of this bull cycle. It has been mentioned before, but the consequences haven't struck me until now.

This update to accounting rules states that some assets (you know the C word? Well, bitcoin in particular) have to be accounted at fair value in balance sheets. "Fair value" in this context is basically market value. It used to be different: if you had bitcoin on your balance, and you bought low, you'd still look (balance wise) as poor as when you bought it. With the new rules, you appear to be as rich (balance wise) as the bitcoin price allows.

The update will become mandatory at the end of 2024, but companies could opt in by the end of 2023. Some well known entrepreneurs opted in as early as they could. Guess one name? Michael "Lazereye" Saylor.

Why is this such a big deal? Because it allows companies to stuff btc in their balance sheets in place of cash or gold; btc that can be bought, hedl there and left to grow, selling only when necessary. In other words, the new rules could (and I'm guessing, will) turn several companies (again: think MicroStrategy) into followers of JimboToronto's way:

"Buy whenever you can, sell only when necessary."

We still have no idea what's coming, guys. Or should I say gentlemen?


I hope this won't be a precursor of taxing the 'unrealized capital gains'.
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About who are next to adopt Bitcoin:

Michael Saylor’s Talk at Bitcoin Atlantis 2024 in Madeira
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dtCYRDL4yc
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