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Question: When will BTC get back above $70K:
7/14 - 0 (0%)
7/21 - 1 (1.9%)
7/28 - 9 (17%)
8/4 - 10 (18.9%)
8/11 - 5 (9.4%)
8/18 - 1 (1.9%)
8/25 - 2 (3.8%)
After August - 25 (47.2%)
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We are now in the modern age of BTC.
Paper BTC has flooded the market since 2017.
Futures markets.
If you want to buy BTC, it used to be you had to buy real BTC.
You can now buy paper BTC. Thus a no-coiner can sell you that paper.
Together you have made a synthetic BTC.
https://x.com/woonomic/status/1801727014535053376


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That would-be demand for BTC gets diverted to paper BTC, fulfilled by counter traders who have no BTC to sell, they just have USD to back their bet.
https://x.com/woonomic/status/1801727016586383618

This is all true, but if (when!) you want to issue more ETF shares, you do need the "underlying" - that is, the real thing, or King Daddy as someone says.

In other words: if ETF shares are just changing hands, this may not move the underlying price directly at all. But if new shares are issued, the institution creating a new synthetic (piece of) BTC needs an equivalent real piece.

People look at ETF  in/outflows because when big corporations, pension funds, or sovereign states look for BTC ETFs to add to their balance sheets or treasuries, there is no escaping from someone  - even if maybe not them directly - having to go shopping for some authentic corn. Not paper, no photos, no IOU. Real, hard bitcoin. Wait and see.
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Willy Woo
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We are now in the modern age of BTC.

Paper BTC has flooded the market since 2017.

Futures markets.

If you want to buy BTC, it used to be you had to buy real BTC.

You can now buy paper BTC. Thus a no-coiner can sell you that paper.

Together you have made a synthetic BTC.

https://x.com/woonomic/status/1801727014535053376


That's what these futures were all about: "Taming" Bitcoin.
There's no free lunch for coiners, thanks to the wall street party poopers  Undecided

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OT: Check out a cool map of US housing affordability. Move the slider to whatever your number is  Wink
https://www.nbcnews.com/data-graphics/map-where-can-you-afford-a-home-in-the-united-states-rcna155286
The median household income in US is $77397.
The whole west coast+Florida coast+ Tristate area (NY, NJ, CT)+ the rest of the North-east coast are unaffordable for at least 50% of the populace.

Slide all the way to the right, notice that the largest area that still priced out, is the Jackson Hole. Go search the photos around this area, the views are like they are from Switzerland.

I noticed the area, but did not bother to check that it is around Jackson, thanks.
Apparently WY is 11X the area of NJ and is also bigger than UK-I did not know these factoids beforehand.
https://www.nationsonline.org/oneworld/map/USA/wyoming_map.htm

Maybe "aliens" around the "Devils Tower" have all that money  Wink

...most likely just wealthy ranchers, though.

 What's up with West Virginia?  I heard it was almost heaven and yet there's no data?
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I moved the income slider all the way to the right and overlayed some national parks 'n stuff - legend below (I think the colours were preserved... didn't want to spend too much time on it)


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OT: Check out a cool map of US housing affordability. Move the slider to whatever your number is  Wink
https://www.nbcnews.com/data-graphics/map-where-can-you-afford-a-home-in-the-united-states-rcna155286
The median household income in US is $77397.
The whole west coast+Florida coast+ Tristate area (NY, NJ, CT)+ the rest of the North-east coast are unaffordable for at least 50% of the populace.

Slide all the way to the right, notice that the largest area that still priced out, is the Jackson Hole. Go search the photos around this area, the views are like they are from Switzerland.

I noticed the area, but did not bother to check that it is around Jackson, thanks.
Apparently WY is 11X the area of NJ and is also bigger than UK-I did not know these factoids beforehand.
https://www.nationsonline.org/oneworld/map/USA/wyoming_map.htm

Maybe "aliens" around the "Devils Tower" have all that money  Wink

...most likely just wealthy ranchers, though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQE_zNs5HOU
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Meanwhile, my friend, a time traveller, sent me this leaked pic from a 2025 100k party....    Grin

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leaked pic from a 2025 100k party....    Grin



I hope she's at least 19 then.
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Meanwhile, my friend, a time traveller, sent me this leaked pic from a 2025 100k party....    Grin



 Oh ffs!  Looks like we're gonna lose our shirts!  Sell, sell sell!
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A new HWUB vid on the intel performance changes.

Unfortunately all these tests are game only but does have some good power metrics under core heavy workloads.

But then again X3D is a gaming chip and not the workstation core heavy line.

https://odysee.com/@HardwareUnboxed:2/ryzen-7-7800x3d-vs.-intel-core-i9-14900k:6

I like Steve's reviews as he does a ton of real world testing and not targeted BS.

Tim on the other hand is a Fanboi that can't be trusted.
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A new HWUB vid on the intel performance changes.

Unfortunately all these tests are game only but does have some good power metrics under core heavy workloads.

But then again X3D is a gaming chip and not the workstation core heavy line.

https://odysee.com/@HardwareUnboxed:2/ryzen-7-7800x3d-vs.-intel-core-i9-14900k:6

I like Steve's reviews as he does a ton of real world testing and not targeted BS.

Tim on the other hand is a Fanboi that can't be trusted.

 Thanks!  I was taking another look at the R9 7950X3D and it's on sale here... a couple of places are competing with one another for some reason and I can pick on up for (converting to USD) $545 taxes in.  The thing is, I was a little disappointed at the much smaller selection of mobos for it.  I understand why now after watching the video. 
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