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January 30, 2025, 09:24:17 AM

At the moment, as i see it and i definitely be wrong, i see a side with short swing of bitcoin. It takes something that triggers the fomo fuse and we go up again.
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January 30, 2025, 10:39:52 AM

USA and China once again one-to-one in tech supremacy or AI supremacy, ChatGPT vs Deepseek.

The real boosting factor of DeepSeek is that it's backend cost is much cheaper then OpenAI because of usage of fewer advanced chips.

Due to this reason first time in history of USA, on Monday Nvidia lost almost 600 billion $ of it's market value.

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January 30, 2025, 11:44:12 AM


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By Liquidity is turning around. I have asked for this for a long time. Price seems to respond to it.
Let's cross our fingers.

All what we need for 200 K in Q4 is 0.2 % day, more liquidity will help.

https://x.com/giovann35084111/status/1884917047630737662



All the ingredients coming together, we hopefully don’t have long to wait for an explosive leg up.

We deserve this, let’s enjoy it.
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Bitcoin is behaving like a bullet train.

It's stopping periodically to let long term holders off...

But as soon as the last genius has "taken profits" and given up their seat to institutional capital, Bitcoin teleports to the next station in the blink of an eye.

Max pain is that it just keeps doing this for the next few years.

And everyone who thinks they're selling the top ends up handing over their generational wealth for a fraction of its true value.

All because they were tricked by Bitcoin's early adoption phase and didn't recognize the phase shift.

They didn't recognize that BlackRock, governments, corporations, and central banks bidding for Bitcoin was fundamentally different than Stu Pidasso punting his payday loan into a basket of shitcoins on Coinbase.

Sure, maybe we get another typical cycle.

But one thing is certain: The buyers this cycle are fundamentally different than previous cycles.

And there are many signs that the idea of Bitcoin as the ultimate store of value asset is catching on.

- The US president is buying Bitcoin.

- Central bankers are considering allocating to BTC.

- Senators are talking about selling gold reserves to stack BTC.

- The Fed and SEC have given their blessing for the big banks to get involved.

- Custody, lending products, etc. It's all coming.

The BlackRock ETFs were just the start of a long period of integration of Bitcoin into the traditional financial system.

And when we look back 10 years from now, it will be clear that 2025 was still very early in the Bitcoin story.

My goal isn't to scare you out of securing life profits when you hit life-changing numbers.

The point of owning Bitcoin is to improve your family's quality of life.

But if you do sell some Sats, just make sure you're comfortable with never seeing them again.

https://x.com/stackhodler/status/1884909646030483813?t=CPLMDVAcRYqkrkNxLHZzxQ&s=19
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Maybe someone else might want to weigh in on whether or not it is bullish for the President of the United States to be selling Bitcoin watches. While this is just another money making venture put on by his crypto team that he probably isn’t even aware of, it sure seems like a good sign for those of us who have been stacking coins.



I want one where can I get it.

https://gettrumpwatches.com/products/trump-crypto-president-jewel-47?_pos=8&_sid=a1b730e06&_ss=r

There you go. You might want to look around the site a bit. There is plenty of options to choose from, including a much cheaper option that doesn’t have the “stones” in it. I personally am not interested in gold plated jewelry, but I’m sure this will end up being quite a popular Bitcoin collectible in the future.
wow the interesting part is the fact that there are cheaper options this will make it easier to sell

 Hmmm... I've been wary of pre-orders ever since Butterfly labs screwed so many over taking 10's of millions of dollars in pre-orders and not being able to deliver in a timely manner until finally being taken down by the FTC.  That being said, the cheapest watch is already sold out while the next tier version:

12 Diamonds, up to 60 Stones & 18K Gold Plating
Trump Crypto President Jewel 47
250 NUMBERED & LIMITED
Regular price$1,199 USD


shows just 37 remaining.  What I find a little disturbing is that at the top of the description is says 250 numbered & limited while later in the description is states:

- Limited Edition: Only 500 Available. Once they’re sold out, they’re gone. So don’t miss your opportunity to grab yours.

 Might just be a copy/paste error but it makes a difference if you're buying for its potential future value as a collectible.


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Bitcoin cycles tend to run for quite some time, even after the halving event.

If history is any indication, this cycle has plenty more room to run.

Onwards & upwards.

https://x.com/cryptojellenl/status/1884975075364831709


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January 30, 2025, 03:38:20 PM

USA and China once again one-to-one in tech supremacy or AI supremacy, ChatGPT vs Deepseek.

The real boosting factor of DeepSeek is that it's backend cost is much cheaper then OpenAI because of usage of fewer advanced chips.

Due to this reason first time in history of USA, on Monday Nvidia lost almost 600 billion $ of it's market value.



As long as it doesn't affect bitcoin, it doesn't matter if they fall 50% or more.
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Due to this reason first time in history of USA, on Monday Nvidia lost almost 600 billion $ of it's market value.

Doesn't mean much again.

Deepseek database was breached.
https://www.csoonline.com/article/3813224/deepseek-leaks-one-million-sensitive-records-in-a-major-data-breach.html/amp/

I knew something such cost effective Would come at a price.
Though the Deepseek team hasn't commented on this yet.
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January 30, 2025, 05:49:49 PM

If you think 600B $ loss in such a RELEVANT company as Nvidia is much and quick. Imagine how Bljatcoins value is going to be deleted as soon as they start meddling with it.. Sooner or later it is going to happen. And by todays tech it is pretty easy..

So dont believe all that BS how countries are gonna invest into BTC cause its irrational investment . Anyone with  half a working brain knows BTC is not going to last.
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I asked ChatGPT to tell me what is "true value" and gives me an interesting answer that "true value" has different meanings which depends on the context used:

If you wanted ChatGPT to chime in on our debate about wether all value is subjective or not, then you likely have to reformulate your question, and it could take several attempts before you might start to feel that ChatGBT is getting closer to the essence of being able to answer the question in a meaningful (rather than gobble-dee-gook and superficial) kind of way.

In this thread we were not really talking about true value, even though sure, true value (and intrinsic and objective value) were parts of the discussion, since largely Richy_T was proclaiming that the ONLY value is subjective value, so he is almost denying the existence of objective, intrinsic value and perhaps even suggesting that the concept of value in itself has no meaning unless it is tied back to subjective value.

Of course, he is also suggesting that I am a wee bit too unenlightened to understand my lack of insight into what is the crux of the matter, and I am not going to proclaim to be some kind of an expert beyond my own visceral reaction to his suggestion that "all value" is subjective...which comes off as a wee bit too much relativism woo woo from my own potentially naive perspective.

JayJuanGee I have said previously that you are our ChatGPT DeepSeek. You have remarkable knowledge in Bitcoin domain. 
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