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October 21, 2025, 06:08:57 PM
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Pump for ants it is
until LFCs bet is lost for good.
Im looking at you 130k!


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He didn't tag it as a haiku
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He's been released with a warning. Didn't even go through booking, so it's all good.
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Base on what you said that means Tom Lee is a wrong speculator, I have never come across of his speculation, when I saw the news it was surprised to me, for such analysis or forecast he made, that is why I brought it here, nobody knows how many persons Tom Lee has deceived with his false speculation.
If you use the search engine on the forum you will find dozens of topics in which he is mentioned. One from this year where he appeared with speculation that BTC would one day be worth as much as $3 million - he just didn't say when it would happen. He is one of those who uses BTC to get free PR, nothing more.
I share in this believe as well because Bitcoin have the ability to get there, fixed supply and growing interest in a growing population is an indication that demand will always outweigh supply which, by law of economics, will lead to rise in price. Even though we don't know when the price will reach $1 million or even  $3 million, what I consider very important is for us to ensure we have enough Bitcoin in our wallets when we get there. It will be painful that someone who is part of this forum and have followed these discussion yet did not have a fraction of Bitcoin yet watched Bitcoin grow from $100k to $1 million and more.

Your overall point about continuing to accumulate bitcoin remains a good one, Moreno233, especially for guys who are active in this forum and people who have looked into bitcoin a bit.  They should be shoring up their own situation, as long as they have some discretionary income, even if their quantity of discretionary income is not very high... .. but yeah, we cannot make choices for people and it can be difficult to have confidence in regards to when BTC is likely to cross either above $1 million or $3 million, and even though those might seem like large numbers, substantively, those are not even very large numbers in terms of where the portfolios of many of us have been.  

Even you, Moreno233, you are fairly new to the forum and to bitcoin, and maybe in the very beginning of your time here, you might not have had been as informed about bitcoin, yet you have had a whole cycle involved in the forum.. so surely it is possible that you have been able to accumulate a decent amount of bitcoin - at least to have around a 4-year headstart over folks who are just getting started in bitcoin in more recent times and also in terms of some members who might be suffering difficulties to either get started and to put some kind of a BTC accumulation plan in place.

There are so many of us who have thought that we are way too late.. yet if we spend a whole cycle or more accumulating bitcoin, we may well start to feel that we are starting to build up a decent enough BTC stash in order to start to feel comfortable in regards to our making progress within our means.

I would argue that the guy who accumulates through buying ONLY has a plan and has decent likelihood to be making measurable progress in regards to ongoingly building his BTC stash to higher levels, even if sometimes he wished that his BTC stash was BIGGER, yet the one who is fucking around with buying and selling and trying to accumulate bitcoin by playing the waves of the BTC market. I doubt that such a guy is sufficiently focused and/or likely to be able to make as much BTC stacking progress, as compared to the guy who focuses largely on ongoing buying only.

Surely there can be guys who take more than a whole cycle to learn the lesson of accumulation of BTC through ongoing buying, and perhaps there is a bit of a mindset in order to really make progress down such path of building up a bitcoin stash, even if costs per BTC might be higher for the guy who is ongoingly buying BTC, yet at the same time. if his timeline is long, the costs per BTC will likely work itself out since bitcoin is designed to pump forever (even though yeah, it is not guaranteed, so we likely have to be careful that we don't mess up our cashflow management practices when we are in the midst of building our bitcoin stash).

True, but the second mouse gets the cheese.
Or gets laid.

It's funny but true. gets the cheese or death this cycle continues. just be patient. HODL for long then suck the cheese and go to 'Fuck you status'

source                                  FOR CHEESE in FUTURE

From my perspective, getting to "fuck you" status is a bit of a different idea, since fuck you status relates to the ability to live off of your BTC and/or any potentially mostly passive income sources, so that you do not necessarily have to work for anyone.  Work becomes optional, and surely there are levels within fuck you status.

It tends to take a while to get to fuck you status, and to me it seems that even if guys spend 4-6 years investing into bitcoin, yet if they are merely investing around 10% of their income into bitcoin, they are less likely to get to fuck you status in that time. Accordingly, there is a function or amount put in and passage of time, since even if a person were to be able to put a whole years of his income into bitcoin in 4-6 years, BTC prices would likely have to go up 10x or more in order for him to get to entry-level fuck you status.. so there tends to be a bit of speculation regarding bitcoin's upside potential, which has frequently been the case and distracted folks into other projects and/or investments since they were worried about bitcoin's future return, as compared to its historical return.

Accordingly, even historically, a person might have had been able to put less than a whole year's of his income into bitcoin.. and let's say that he had achieved an average cost per BTC that was less than $5k.. so then if he built up his bitcoin holdings, so then now he would be more than 22x in profits based on BTC spot price and he would even be close to 12x in profits based on the 200-WMA... so then the question still might relate to how much he put in, and if he ONLY put half a year of his income into bitcoin, then he might not quite be at entry-level fuck you status, yet if he had put a whole year of his income into bitcoin, then it seems to me that he would have had entered into fuck you status.

Part of my point is that there still may well be some need to commit a decent amount of income into bitcoin in order to get results, yet at the same time, bitcoin has been a great investment for those who have built up their BTC stash.

The day started with dump below 108K, and now ending with pump above 112K almost 113K. And gold down 5% for the first time in months. This is interesting. Bear market over?  Roll Eyes

We were never in a "bear market."

We had an ATH of $126,272 on October 6.  Therefore whatever BTC price performance that we had in the past 2-ish weeks was a "correction" at most.

We might not agree exactly how to define "bear market" in regards to bitcoin, but it should be fairly clear that we are not in one in recent times, including even the last 6-ish months or more.

I personally continue to proclaim that we have been in a bull market since November 2022, even though we were not necessarily confirmed to be in such bull market since either mid-2023 or perhaps as late as October/November 2023.

I understand that guys like to throw out the term "bear market" when they are talking about corrections, yet it remains quite misleading to be so loosey goosey in bitcoin market descriptive choices...

The day started with dump below 108K, and now ending with pump above 112K almost 113K. And gold down 5% for the first time in months. This is interesting. Bear market over?  Roll Eyes
Is this bear market in the room with us now?

For some peeps... "The bear felt like it was here" in their imaginations.. blah blah blah...

How ridiculous to go from an ATH on October 6 and then into a supposed bear market.. all within a mere two weeks.   Roll Eyes
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October 21, 2025, 06:46:38 PM

That was a nice little move this morning to kill some of the recent shorts in the market.  However, the real fireworks begin if we can get back to the $120K range.  I suspect we'll see the mother of all short coverings and those who miss that boat will be liquidated in short order.  Still a little early to be celebrating though.  That is one hell of a sell wall in the $120s.  If by some miracle a short squeeze can come into play, this could be fuel for the rocket launch we are all awaiting next month.  I want to see it happen, not only to benefit myself financially, but it would be one hell of a thing to watch unfold.
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Nice little move today to 114k but feels like there’s so much price suppression going on right now. I mean if you told me this morning at 107k that we’d be at 111.5k (as I type this) I’d have been delighted but as soon as we hit 114k Trump comes out FUDDING some BS about tariffs and his meeting with China’s Xi potentially not happening and we then retrace half the move.

I want nothing more than for all the manipulators, short sellers to get absolutely liquidated so badly that they have to eat ramen forever. Come on Bitcoin, with Gold down 6% today and seemingly topped out, liquidity is there to pump. $150,000 per coin, come on……
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OK last one -
I'm in on this😁😁
I'm betting 0.0005  that BTC will reach ATH before April.

Last one..

hahahahahaha.

Early bird gets the work, so to speak.  

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Lol...it's 'early bird gets the worm'...albeit a bird still has to do some "work" to get it.
Hmmmm

True, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

mice don't even like the cheese too much...as one friendly mouse told me  Wink....they prefer bread, seeds, etc.
Re cheese...one may ask...is there cheese where mice usually live...like open fields, forests, etc?
Seems jerry lied to us the entire time  Cheesy
Where I'm from they bait mice with protein
So I guess it's just a location based thing

The legend of mice "liking' cheese came from earlier pre-refrigeration times when people store cheese sometimes in the colder basements and or ground openings (root cellars and/or spring houses) to maintain colder temperatures. Obviously, if there are no bread or seeds around, mice would make holes in the cheese. They are omnivorous, like us, but have their preferences.

 So once you catch one mouse, you could bait the rest with some tasty, teriyaki mouse-jerky.  Good to know!
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October 21, 2025, 07:16:07 PM
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A paw is moving
The bounce has some extra spring
This cat is not dead




#haiku
Maybe the cat only pretended to be dead to get some special treatments.

I have seen seeing different AI videos on YT and FB of how cats were chasing lions and cheetah out of their owners' homes.

Cat can be smart and wise when filled.
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So once you catch one mouse, you could bait the rest with some tasty, teriyaki mouse-jerky.  Good to know!

This is diabolical  Cheesy Cheesy
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#haiku
Maybe the cat only pretended to be dead to get some special treatments.

I have seen seeing different AI videos on YT and FB of how cats were chasing lions and cheetah out of their owners' homes.

Cat can be smart and wise when filled.


My little queen brought back a squirrel once. She ate the entire poor animal except the tail. The thing was huge as well... She could really eat.

She was really smart like you would not believe. She made it to a proud 20 years.
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Come on Bitcoin, with Gold down 6% today and seemingly topped out, liquidity is there to pump. $150,000 per coin, come on……
Gold falling is a sign that People ain't running for cover and are feeling safer.
And these funds won't be left idle.
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OK last one -
I'm in on this😁😁
I'm betting 0.0005  that BTC will reach ATH before April.

Last one..

hahahahahaha.

Early bird gets the work, so to speak.  

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Lol...it's 'early bird gets the worm'...albeit a bird still has to do some "work" to get it.
Hmmmm

True, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

Or gets laid.




mice don't even like cheese too much...as one friendly mouse told me  Wink....they prefer bread, seeds, etc.
Re cheese...one may ask...is there cheese where mice usually live...like open fields, forests, etc?

I have alot of woods around and ever few years have to catch a family that decided my place was warmer that the outdoors and peanut butter has never failed to catch the fools that decided to enter the giants home.

having lived in an apartment in NYC and a serious mouse problem. Peanutbutter a snap style trap and thread are the way to get mice.

They can not resist the peanutbutter and when they pul the tangled thread to get it all the trap snaps and down goes the mouse.

I got 13 or 14 in two weeks and ended the mouse issue for keeps. Even got two on 1 snap.

Those were the days. 1987  to be exact.

Hah, teach me to post before catching up, yup Pbutter is the gold standard!

Was this a picture of the 2 you caught?

1987 no camera film and it too much cold to go to a store to buy a disposable camera. So I dumped the two dead ones and set the trap again.

I had 2 traps which where blood stained by the time I got all 13 or 14 mice.

Never under stood why the dried mice blood did not scare the later mice.

BTW used peanut butter on squirrels also  works for them. Ground hogs prefer cantaloupe.

The ground hog traps were catch and release.

I would spray paint them with a spot of white and drop them in a park 50 miles away.

Hahaha, you basically ran a full-scale wildlife relocation program out of your backyard! Between the peanut butter buffet, the blood-stained mouse traps of doom, and the groundhog Uber service with complimentary white paint marking, I'm surprised National Geographic hasn’t called you for a documentary yet: “Operation Rodent Freedom: One Man’s Mission to Relocate Everything That Moves.”

Somewhere out there, a groundhog with a white racing stripe is telling his kids, “And that’s how I met your mother,  right after the big peanut butter massacre of ’87.” 😆

mice were in a NYC apartment.

Squirrels were in Howell NJ THEY WERE NOT WHAT I WANTED (CHIPMONKS) NEVER GOT A SINGLE CHIPMUNK.

GROUNDHOGS were In Howell NJ got over 10 of them and 1 possum.

MIce in NYC were killed.
Squirrels were killed only 2 as I was gunning for chipmunks and failed.

Ground hogs and possum were relocated.

traps for mice :

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C1NN4B6/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A1VXXWE5IFXYV3&th=1

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traps for squirrels but wanted chipmunks

https://www.amazon.com/Rat-Zapper-Electric-Effective-Electronic/dp/B0CQMTN1X4/ref=sr_1_17?

after catching 2 squirrels while hunting for chipmunks I retired this idea.
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traps to relocate ground hogs

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00004RAMT/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&th=1


the ground hogs ate my tomatoes so they had to go. but they got to live.



Totals 1987 13-14 mice

all the 90's

2 squirrels

and 7 groundhogs
with 1 possum

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I’m beginning to wonder if the economy is going to be able to hold up long enough for Bitcoin to hit a new high. Gofundme has warned that people have started crowdfunding money to buy groceries. A house in my neighborhood just sold for 30% below the price at the peak. A ton of government employees have been let go this year and a ton more are about to be fired. People are self-deporting. Amazon is replacing half a million employees with robots. JP Morgan is warning that we may be headed into a recession. China is playing hardball… I’m aggressively selling call options in hopes they hit and trigger sales so I can reduce my exposure to the economy. I guess we’ll see how smart that is in a year.
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Hahaha, you basically ran a full-scale wildlife relocation program out of your backyard! Between the peanut butter buffet, the blood-stained mouse traps of doom, and the groundhog Uber service with complimentary white paint marking, I'm surprised National Geographic hasn’t called you for a documentary yet: “Operation Rodent Freedom: One Man’s Mission to Relocate Everything That Moves.”

Somewhere out there, a groundhog with a white racing stripe is telling his kids, “And that’s how I met your mother,  right after the big peanut butter massacre of ’87.” 😆

mice were in a NYC apartment.

Squirrels were in Howell NJ THEY WERE NOT WHAT I WANTED (CHIPMONKS) NEVER GOT A SINGLE CHIPMUNK.

GROUNDHOGS were In Howell NJ got over 10 of them and 1 possum.

MIce in NYC were killed.
Squirrels were killed only 2 as I was gunning for chipmunks and failed.

Ground hogs and possum were relocated.

traps for mice :

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C1NN4B6/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A1VXXWE5IFXYV3&th=1

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traps for squirrels but wanted chipmunks

https://www.amazon.com/Rat-Zapper-Electric-Effective-Electronic/dp/B0CQMTN1X4/ref=sr_1_17?

after catching 2 squirrels while hunting for chipmunks I retired this idea.
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traps to relocate ground hogs

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00004RAMT/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&th=1


the ground hogs ate my tomatoes so they had to go. but they got to live.



Totals 1987 13-14 mice

all the 90's

2 squirrels

and 7 groundhogs
with 1 possum



Funny, I have trapped 3 racoons, 1 possum and a groundhog and relocated them to a lake at the casino. I had to recapture the racoon Mama twice as I relocated her a few miles away the first time and she came right back! And I moved , 1 skunk to a swamp down the road as I was not going to put it in my trunk so I carried the cage the whole way covered talking to the thing hoping it wouldn't spray !! Oh also I had a real battle catching the Mama racoon the second time and only got her with two traps, one was a walk through I camouflaged and I had a small blanket that the younger ones were on that I think smelled like them that lured her in. Also have a pretty funny mouse relocation story if your interested.
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Baron's short tipped into red?? Release the Tariffs again!!  Cheesy

A house in my neighborhood just sold for 30% below the price at the peak.
The real estate market is a big and long bubble, until I see market prices down across the board by at least 20-40% people are not really poor yet.
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Nice little move today to 114k but feels like there’s so much price suppression going on right now. I mean if you told me this morning at 107k that we’d be at 111.5k (as I type this) I’d have been delighted but as soon as we hit 114k Trump comes out FUDDING some BS about tariffs and his meeting with China’s Xi potentially not happening and we then retrace half the move.

I want nothing more than for all the manipulators, short sellers to get absolutely liquidated so badly that they have to eat ramen forever. Come on Bitcoin, with Gold down 6% today and seemingly topped out, liquidity is there to pump. $150,000 per coin, come on……

Apparently, we don't deserve a clean market.
We are only deemed to have a market full of manipulators, insiders, and big swinging dicks.
We only know we will be right in the long term.
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I’m beginning to wonder if the economy is going to be able to hold up long enough for Bitcoin to hit a new high. Gofundme has warned that people have started crowdfunding money to buy groceries. A house in my neighborhood just sold for 30% below the price at the peak. A ton of government employees have been let go this year and a ton more are about to be fired. People are self-deporting. Amazon is replacing half a million employees with robots.

This is creative destruction, what we build is also what ends up destroying everything.

But bitcoin doesn't care, it will just tick block by block, and when the dust settles in the real assets will be standing as scarce and incorruptible.
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