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$110K - 9 (8.3%)
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November 20, 2025, 02:37:06 PM

I continued my search, and it looks like about US 1% of the population works for minimum wage. But I assume that's mostly in sectors where tipping is mandatory, and that can easily add up to more than the wage itself. I can't say I'm a fan of this system though, it favours corporations instead of individuals.

Forgot about the tipping culture. I hate that about the US, I never know what is acceptable.

20% always with exceptions

Order at counter food/pick up/delivery 15%

I always do 25+% for haircuts

Fixed amounts for certain situations mostly travel related, valet room cleaning butler type duties etc

$5 dirty fiat in the us/1st world countries and 10$ everywhere else.

Trolley dollies 5$ starbs gift cards

15% at the counter and 20% for full service? So you're paying just 5% for someone to come to you, greet you, take your order at your table, bring food to you, come to you to follow up, and clean everything for you without you having to even stand up. wtf is 15% then for, for the girl just to punch in your order at the counter?

Makes sense to me as we tip max 5% for that in Europe and zero at the counter. That makes he same delta.
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November 20, 2025, 03:14:40 PM

Where will the money come from? Well, Trump wants to hand out $2,000 to everyone- that's the "fuel" for (some) market growth. Smiley - https://www.forbes.com/sites/waynecrews/2025/11/17/trumps-2000-tariff-checks-the-backdoor-ubi-conservatives-should-fear/

That's quite likely to not arrive until closer to the midterms though.
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What's the customary tip at McDonalds?  Asking for a friend.
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Does it mean that members here don't cry when the market is dropping or some cry in secret?

It's never comfortable but for some of us, things can be helped by zooming out. In more ways than one.
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What's the customary tip at McDonalds?  Asking for a friend.

There is no tip. Most of the employees there are Bitcoiners. They're "fuck-you" rich. They don't need no tips.
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November 20, 2025, 03:39:36 PM

This feels like a good place to buy.
Too bad OGnasty's prediction did not come true... I would have loved buying @ 78K Grin.



some biltong




I have never heard of this "biltong" before. Is it basically beef jerky but without the seasonings?

What's the customary tip at McDonalds?  Asking for a friend.

There is no tip. Most of the employees there are Bitcoiners. They're "fuck-you" rich. They don't need no tips.

Lol.

Rich kids working at McDonalds will be a fad someday.

What's the customary tip at McDonalds?  Asking for a friend.

A hard stare.

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Cameron Winklevoss says this is the last time you will be able to buy Bitcoin under $90K. That’s a pretty bold statement for someone who owns a major exchange to make. He said something similar about $100K a year ago, but maybe this time is different? I struggle to see where the money is going to come from to lift this market, but maybe they know something I don’t. Quite possible since I am just a random name on a website.


He's simply trying to contain the panic and fear that has arisen in the crypto market. Because liquidity is falling,  which affects Gemini's profits.

Whatever valuable information whales like the Winklevoss brothers may know, they, just like us, can't "see the future", because too many unknown variables arise in the equation of the future.

Where will the money come from? Well, Trump wants to hand out $2,000 to everyone- that's the "fuel" for (some) market growth. Smiley - https://www.forbes.com/sites/waynecrews/2025/11/17/trumps-2000-tariff-checks-the-backdoor-ubi-conservatives-should-fear/

I can see the future, BTC will become global reserve currency. I can see it as clear as day, frankly it's inevitable at this point, so the question is only that of timing.
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November 20, 2025, 04:37:33 PM

we keep diving thats a fact for now
A bit late, but we're almost there:
In a few months, we'll feel sad Bitcoin is down to $75k again.

You were off by an entire cycle… That’s the most accurate prediction of yours you could find after going back more than 4 years? Now you’re saying we drop to $75K after badmouthing me for saying the top was in when we were at $117K. Have you no shame? I would be embarrassed.


I continued my search, and it looks like about US 1% of the population works for minimum wage. But I assume that's mostly in sectors where tipping is mandatory, and that can easily add up to more than the wage itself. I can't say I'm a fan of this system though, it favours corporations instead of individuals.

Forgot about the tipping culture. I hate that about the US, I never know what is acceptable.

In Japan, waiters and waitresses feel awkward about accepting tips. It's totally not a thing.

I’ve given a few Japanese waitresses the tip and they seemed appreciative. Cheesy

Roppongi? Shibuya?

200k party in Tokyo?
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November 20, 2025, 04:57:02 PM

This feels like a good place to buy.

Naa, we’re going way lower sadly.
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November 20, 2025, 05:10:31 PM

This feels like a good place to buy.
Too bad OGnasty's prediction did not come true... I would have loved buying @ 78K Grin.

I don’t make predictions. I just tell people what happens in the future. Smiley

You can buy here if you want. I’m not trying to stop anyone from buying Bitcoin. If you have a four year time horizon then buy as much as you want and it will be fine. As a large holder of Bitcoin, I would much prefer you go against my warnings than profit from them.
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November 20, 2025, 05:15:02 PM

This feels like a good place to buy.
Too bad OGnasty's prediction did not come true... I would have loved buying @ 78K Grin.

I don’t make predictions. I just tell people what happens in the future. Smiley

You can buy here if you want. I’m not trying to stop anyone from buying Bitcoin. If you have a four year time horizon then buy as much as you want and it will be fine. As a large holder of Bitcoin, I would much prefer you go against my warnings than profit from them.

Well said.

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November 20, 2025, 05:15:09 PM

This feels like a good place to buy.

Naa, we’re going way lower sadly.
What needs to happen for you to turn bullish again?
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This feels like a good place to buy.

Naa, we’re going way lower sadly.

it ain't over til the jingleheimer screeds @< 80k
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What's the customary tip at McDonalds?  Asking for a friend.

you da man, i'm heading over there to get a job when /\BTC goes back down towards $10K Wink REEEEEEEEE
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November 20, 2025, 05:53:21 PM

This feels like a good place to buy.

Naa, we’re going way lower sadly.

it ain't over til the jingleheimer screeds

What does this even mean?
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This feels like a good place to buy.

Naa, we’re going way lower sadly.
What needs to happen for you to turn bullish again?

Bitcoin is being treated more like an extremely risky tech stock and less like a safe haven.

Unlike a tech stock (i.e. NVDA) that can deliver good quarterly earnings and guidance of future growth that helps increase its stock price, Bitcoin is dependent on reduced availability and increased demand. That's a troubling spot to be in for Bitcoin to stand on its own like gold - because all we have that is driving Bitcoin's price up is; the four-year halving cycle and institutional/government/company and retail buying. If that buying fades the bottom is unknown...      
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Unlike a tech stock (i.e. NVDA) that can deliver good quarterly earnings and guidance of future growth that helps increase its stock price, Bitcoin is dependent on reduced availability and increased demand. That's a troubling spot to be in for Bitcoin to stand on its own like gold - because all we have that is driving Bitcoin's price up is; the four-year halving cycle and institutional/government/company and retail buying. If that buying fades the bottom is unknown...      
The halving cycle no longer has a significant impact, that is a relic of the past. The issued supply is simply too low compared to the existing, so the impact continues to decrease. Buying also comes and goes in waves, so I don't consider that an issue.

Gold is also considerably down from the ATH.
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