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To think Bitcoin has reached this far in the World Economy is incredible.  If you told anybody back in 2015 that in 10 years Bitcoin down to 90,000 Dollars will be considered a crash they would think you are insane.

In fact it would have sounded as if I told you that in 2035 Bitcoin will be 9,000,000 Dollars in the lowest range.  I do not know that it will be and I do not even know if I should hope for it to be worth that much.  The economy is being absolutely demolished and it almost looks like a whole unit of Bitcoin will have the most insane purchasing power by then compared to all the other Assets.

May Fiat burn in hell and Bitcoin rise to the sky.

Fiat will continue to being printed like crazy, and it's one of the reasons BTC becomes more and more relevant.

I wouldn't want traditional systems to be gone - more like to be an example of why alternatives such as BTC - matter and are needed.
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@BitHodlers - You actually surprised me!

But now I know you are a self-admitted wimp and you must enjoy being bullied since you aren't man enough to put up a fight and defend yourself! Seems you're just a punk that is cruising for a bruising...  
I am starting to think that you've hallucinated a number 1 in front of your IQ results. Sometimes they are mean, so what? They are random internet strangers. Either you are retarded man or you just started using the internet a year or two ago, some Gen Alpha kid or something. People have been mean to others on the internet since day 1.  Cheesy

Yep.

"We" are licking our chops.

Any minute that BitHodlers "screws up," "we" are going to pounce on his ass.



He better watch out.
Life is more fun this way.  Cheesy

So Bitcoin is showing some signs of still being alive.  Grin

Fiat will continue to being printed like crazy, and it's one of the reasons BTC becomes more and more relevant.

I wouldn't want traditional systems to be gone - more like to be an example of why alternatives such as BTC - matter and are needed.
All fiat currencies collapse, it is just a question of when.
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Well now, isn't it obvious that it makes no fucking difference if BTC 100k or 400k.

You cannot hoard your way to security, unlike what etf fuck face says.

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@BitHodlers - You actually surprised me!

But now I know you are a self-admitted wimp and you must enjoy being bullied since you aren't man enough to put up a fight and defend yourself! Seems you're just a punk that is cruising for a bruising...  
I am starting to think that you've hallucinated a number 1 in front of your IQ results. Sometimes they are mean, so what? They are random internet strangers. Either you are retarded man or you just started using the internet a year or two ago, some Gen Alpha kid or something. People have been mean to others on the internet since day 1.  Cheesy


Yo, face it, bro. We aren't "men enough" to put up a fight.
But speaking of men, aren't real men more like fighting only when it's absolutely inevitable, when it's about saving lives or the Motherland?
I mean, at least all the men in the army are taught this mindset, and i think the army should know how REAL men should behave like, no?

 Huh

Anyway, all he does is trolling around here, and i fell for his trap again and got triggered (like a real man), but i kept the quote in the reply for contextual reason.
It's quite funny too, that obviously one of his talents is that his "arguments" make him look like an idiot himself.

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 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Well now, isn't it obvious that it makes no fucking difference if BTC 100k or 400k.

You cannot hoard your way to security, unlike what etf fuck face says.

Behave  Smiley
Or do you want to read his bold-caps-oversized swearwords again?
(Which i can't see unless somebody is quoting this shiat)
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@BitHodlers - You actually surprised me!

But now I know you are a self-admitted wimp and you must enjoy being bullied since you aren't man enough to put up a fight and defend yourself! Seems you're just a punk that is cruising for a bruising...  
I am starting to think that you've hallucinated a number 1 in front of your IQ results. Sometimes they are mean, so what? They are random internet strangers. Either you are retarded man or you just started using the internet a year or two ago, some Gen Alpha kid or something. People have been mean to others on the internet since day 1.  Cheesy

~snip~.

Behave  Smiley

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Negative.

Pringo gave me some soup with a fortune cookie.

2 soldiers in critical care.

Afghan President prince saudi cock sucker offered 1 trillion to develop quantum cryptography so that our sweat smells like shit which he can sell as gold.

Have a good weekend.

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JP Morgan Files BlackRock BTC ETF structured Note - JP Morgan filed a 3-year structured note on BlackRock's spot Bitcoin ETF 'IBIT'.  

The move signals a major shift in traditional finance, showing growing institutional acceptance of Bitcoin as a legitimate asset class.


The structured notes are linked to BlackRock’s iShares Bitcoin Trust (IBIT). This lets investors gain Bitcoin exposure through a regulated ETF rather than holding BTC directly, which avoids custody and compliance challenges.


Historically cautious on crypto, JPMorgan’s decision reflects a recognition of Bitcoin as a significant financial asset. Financier Anthony Scaramucci even called the filing a “huge milestone” for institutional adoption.
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South Korea’s largest crypto exchange Upbit has revealed a hack worth about 54b won, or roughly $36m, on the Solana network and pledged to fully reimburse customers after tokens were siphoned to an unknown wallet early on Thursday.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/crypto-exchange-upbit-reports-36m-041439379.html
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South Korea’s largest crypto exchange Upbit has revealed a hack worth about 54b won, or roughly $36m, on the Solana network and pledged to fully reimburse customers after tokens were siphoned to an unknown wallet early on Thursday.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/crypto-exchange-upbit-reports-36m-041439379.html

Pretty small and does not have an effect on Bitcoin.

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Deposit And Withdrawal Services To Resume After Systemwide Checks

Upbit also started on-chain response measures. It said it is working to freeze the compromised funds where possible and has already frozen around 12 billion won worth of Solaire tokens. The exchange added that it is continuing to track the remaining assets and is coordinating with relevant projects and institutions to implement additional freezes.
Very decentralized shitcoin. Bitcoin and a few others are the only ones where this could never happen.
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At this point I wanted an opportunity to buy the dip but oh well.
well I got solid dip, but I do not like people saying things are good.
If and when the correction ends ($101,000 does the trick) I will have some sense of relief.
Til we get there things are merely meh at this time.

I moved about .275 btc out of PayPal leaving a mere 0.032 coins in the account.
Took a few days with many fuck you wait longer moves on the part of PayPal.
this was the most dip I purchased in a few years.
I'm the same as you. I bought for the first time in several years when I returned to WO on November 4th. I bought $60 and I've made a few more $60 purchases on the dip.
For me, it's a marathon, we'll see how far I can get.
But I'm very, very far from what I used to have, so far that I see it as unattainable.

You can ONLY do as much as you can do.  If you could figure out some kind of a way to get to a point that you can buy $50 per week in bitcoin, then that would be $2,600 per year and $26k every 10 years.

Sure, you may or may not be able to increase your discretionary income by increasing your income and/or by cutting your expenses.

You can only do what you can do... and surely many of us recognize that the earlier that you are able to accumulate the majority of your stash the better.. and at the same time there could be a lot of ups and downs along the way, since sometimes there are folks who end up front loading at or near the top, yet I have always thought that the solution for those kinds of guys is just to keep buying and to ride it through rather than selling with expectations of buying back cheaper.

We don't always know what to do.. and surely there can be uncomfortable periods in the bitcoin accumulation and holding journey of anyone working to build his bitcoin holdings.

To think Bitcoin has reached this far in the World Economy is incredible.  If you told anybody back in 2015 that in 10 years Bitcoin down to 90,000 Dollars will be considered a crash they would think you are insane.

In fact it would have sounded as if I told you that in 2035 Bitcoin will be 9,000,000 Dollars in the lowest range.  I do not know that it will be and I do not even know if I should hope for it to be worth that much.  The economy is being absolutely demolished and it almost looks like a whole unit of Bitcoin will have the most insane purchasing power by then compared to all the other Assets.

May Fiat burn in hell and Bitcoin rise to the sky.

For sure, many newbies are never going to be able to get to 1 whole bitcoin, so they need to shoot for some quantity that might be more reasonably attainable, whether that be 10 million satoshis, 21 million satoshis or even just starting out with goes of getting to 1 million satoshis and going from there.

If the starting out goal is too unattainable, they might not even strive to reach it, so there needs to be reasonably attainable goals along the way, even if they also might have some larger aspirational goals that still might end up being attainable further down the road.

There are likely many guys in bitcoin who ended up exceeding their bitcoin accumulation goals.. and then when they end up exceeding their bitcoin accumulation goals then they ended up getting doubly rewarded with bitcoin's subsequent appreciation, in the event that they were able to mostly hold through so many of the ups and downs over the past 10-ish years.. referring back to guys who might have had started accumulating bitcoin that far back.

Also, the guys who accomplished a majority of their bitcoin accumulation prior to 2021 are likely feeling a wee bit smug right now, even if they might feel that they are not yet quite in a position to start to cash out any of their coins.. so some of those guys might still be letting their bitcoin holdings mostly ride, even if they might also buy a bit more coin, from time to time on the dips... perhaps?

$9 million in 10 years does both seem attainable and still a bit of a fantasy, since it would still be 100x from today's prices.  I think that guys can still reasonably accumulate bitcoin with ideas that those kinds of numbers are not pure fantasy..

I think that even my earliest years of 2013, 2014, 2015 and 2016, I still had some ideas that even the really BIG numbers were not total fantasy, which also contributed to my both accumulating as aggressively as I felt reasonable, yet at the same time, holding back a bit so that I could still live and not get too far over my skiis in terms of my own weekly /monthly cashflow management.

Well now, isn't it obvious that it makes no fucking difference if BTC 100k or 400k.

You cannot hoard your way to security, unlike what etf fuck face says.

It does make a difference.

Many times in bitcoin we have had a lot of ups and downs along the way, and it can be quite difficult to measure the extent to which progress is being made.

Even guys who have been in bitcoin for a long time will sometimes get lured into either thinking that they are not making progress quick enough or that they have to "act quickly," so if they ONLY end up selling around 10% of their stash, and they had not sold any for a while then maybe it is  no big deal either way.

Over the years, guys have been able to make mistakes in managing their bitcoin stashes, and as long as they are mostly holding onto their bitcoin stash, they may well could have had still ended up doing quite well for themselves, even if they might have ended up selling too many coins too soon.

We could say that it is all relative in terms of where to draw the line, and the guy who is ONLY taking out around 10% or even less for every doubling is doing better than the guy who is taking out close to 50% for every doubling. .The guy who is taking out close to 50% for every doubling is depriving himself of the compounding value effects of bitcoin.. and so yeah, there have been close to 9 value doublings (compounding effects) of bitcoin since 2015.. and surely quite a bit more value if guys had not been extracting too many of the profits along the way in order to have had been able to personally benefit in more substantial ways from those bitcoin compounding value effects.

So yeah.. every little bit makes a difference - including that $100k is different from $400k.. and $400k is 4x greater than $100k (that's two compounding effects for those guys who might be starting their compounding in current price territories as compared with guys who started further back... and yeah, some guys are able to lock in their average cost per BTC by front-loading their investment, yet many guys (likely an overwhelming majority) will take years and years and years before they get through most of their bitcoin accumulation.. .and sure, sometimes guys are also not sure about if they have enough bitcoin or not yet.. There are some guys who believe that you can never have enough bitcoin, and I surely don't believe that... since I think that guys can reach stages of having enough or more than enough bitcoin.
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South Korea’s largest crypto exchange Upbit has revealed a hack worth about 54b won, or roughly $36m, on the Solana network and pledged to fully reimburse customers after tokens were siphoned to an unknown wallet early on Thursday.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/crypto-exchange-upbit-reports-36m-041439379.html

Pretty small and does not have an effect on Bitcoin.

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Upbit also started on-chain response measures. It said it is working to freeze the compromised funds where possible and has already frozen around 12 billion won worth of Solaire tokens. The exchange added that it is continuing to track the remaining assets and is coordinating with relevant projects and institutions to implement additional freezes.
Very decentralized shitcoin. Bitcoin and a few others are the only ones where this could never happen.

It was a crypto exchange that it happened to!  
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South Korea’s largest crypto exchange Upbit has revealed a hack worth about 54b won, or roughly $36m, on the Solana network and pledged to fully reimburse customers after tokens were siphoned to an unknown wallet early on Thursday.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/crypto-exchange-upbit-reports-36m-041439379.html

Pretty small and does not have an effect on Bitcoin.

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Deposit And Withdrawal Services To Resume After Systemwide Checks

Upbit also started on-chain response measures. It said it is working to freeze the compromised funds where possible and has already frozen around 12 billion won worth of Solaire tokens. The exchange added that it is continuing to track the remaining assets and is coordinating with relevant projects and institutions to implement additional freezes.
Very decentralized shitcoin. Bitcoin and a few others are the only ones where this could never happen.

It was a crypto exchange that it happened to!  

YES, Centralized == BAD, Easy enough for you to understand?

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Pretty small and does not have an effect on Bitcoin.

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Upbit also started on-chain response measures. It said it is working to freeze the compromised funds where possible and has already frozen around 12 billion won worth of Solaire tokens. The exchange added that it is continuing to track the remaining assets and is coordinating with relevant projects and institutions to implement additional freezes.
Very decentralized shitcoin. Bitcoin and a few others are the only ones where this could never happen.
It was a crypto exchange that it happened to!  
Yeah and read my quoted part then. On-chain response measures means utilizing blockchain functions and coordinating with validators to freeze addresses. Impossible in Bitcoin, Monero and Litecoin. Possible in every other new shitcoin in top 100.  Smiley

YES, Centralized == BAD, Easy enough for you to understand?

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Your keys does not even work in these shitcoins as they can freeze your balance even if you hold them on your own address. Terrible centralized products..
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JP Morgan Files BlackRock BTC ETF structured Note - JP Morgan filed a 3-year structured note on BlackRock's spot Bitcoin ETF 'IBIT'.  

The move signals a major shift in traditional finance, showing growing institutional acceptance of Bitcoin as a legitimate asset class.


The structured notes are linked to BlackRock’s iShares Bitcoin Trust (IBIT). This lets investors gain Bitcoin exposure through a regulated ETF rather than holding BTC directly, which avoids custody and compliance challenges.


Historically cautious on crypto, JPMorgan’s decision reflects a recognition of Bitcoin as a significant financial asset. Financier Anthony Scaramucci even called the filing a “huge milestone” for institutional adoption.


This means Wall Street integration now that the largest U.S. bank is actively structuring Bitcoin-linked products, showing crypto’s integration into mainstream finance.

It provides a legitimacy boost by pairing JPMorgan with BlackRock’s spot Bitcoin ETF and greatly strengthens Bitcoin’s credibility as an investable asset.

"Bitcoin (BTC) could climb to $240,000 over the long term, according to a recent JPMorgan note assessing the asset’s evolving market structure."

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/jpmorgans-bitcoin-structured-notes-offer-020526080.html
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