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I have not used pot since Jan 27 of 1991

I have not used coffee since 3pm Dec 6 2025

Coffee is really hard to quit for me and I have zero desire to quit it.

Pot was very easy to quit as where all other drugs except for booze I have 1 or 2 shots a week.
Why would someone want to quit coffee unless they have specific medical problems? It brings benefits besides the flavor.
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That's funny, because when i try to "build" a inner vision of a close individual, they are always looking like comic representations, with constantly morphing faces, in dim light, very 2D, like printed on cardboard. They never look like they'd look to my eye IRL. But i had the ability to remember everything i had ever read under hyperfocus. I lost that, though, while psychologists say my aging brain needs mostly all the power to stay "high functioning", and it also quite feels that way.

That's interesting.

I can picture in my mind remarkable imaging of people and things from many decades ago, right down to people's facial reactions (smiles, frown, straight face, etc.) and even how they move in their own characteristic way with their individual mannerisms just like its a multi-decade old short-clip video - - and I can even select the location where I want to remember them.

I also can recall perfect images of subject things and facts - stuff that is often quite insignificant and totally unimportant to me that sticks with me; crazy stuff like a family member's elementary school teacher's license plate number from decades ago, or like the perfect image of the box-shaped grooves on my decades old Titleist 660 iron clubfaces along with that nasty gash on the 2nd groove up from the leading edge toward the hosel on the 35° 7-iron - - or like some detail figures on my Federal tax returns from some years ago. Weird...  
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December 06, 2025, 11:32:57 PM
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Real coke is like 30 minutes of basically a glorified caffeine rush.

It's a lot more than that. Cocaine, amphetamine and other strong stimulants are ego boosters. This is why they are dangerously addictive. Psychedelics on the other hand can be ego inhibitors.

Decades ago I had a friend who advocated alternating stimulant times with psychedelic times: Keep your ego in check with psychedelics until it becomes too small and the recover it with stimulants. Back and forth.

It's far too easy to let one's ego get out of control. Ego feels good. Ego suppression can be uncomfortable.

The more concentrated the stimulant the more unwieldy the ego boost can become. Snorting little lines of "real coke" is relatively harmless. Most retail cocaine has been heavily diluted. Start injecting it intravenously or freebasing it (crack) and it's a whole new ball game.
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I had second thoughts about including cocaine in my original post because there really is no valid "emergency" use for it. I included it simply because it is one of the most evil substances voluntarily consumed by mankind. Likewise with tobacco.

As someone else pointed out, most dangerous drugs have a valid use. Short-term opioid use is absolutely required after getting your bones screwed back together. Just don't continue it for more than a day or two. Likewise benzos. They can be sanity savers in a panic attack but can become dependency producing in a very short time.

Use drugs judiciously when they are necessary and then once you get the message, hang up the phone.
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Full disclosure:

I started using cocaine in the 1960s when it was rare and exotic. I continued using small amounts during the 1970s to give me a small boost onstage. It seemed to increase my accuracy and the audiences seemed to like it. By the 1980 s I was starting to get less diluted cocaine and succumbed to its allure. Soon I was buying it regularly and before too long I tried injecting it.  The first time I tried freebase I realized it was just like injecting it but much more convenient. I fucked up and spent a friend's money  in one night.

By the end of the 1980s I had tapered off, first by not consuming any until I'd paid for my purchase with sales. Then I realized that was bullshit and I stopped buying it but still accepted feebies. Then I stopped doing it completely for a year until I was handed  joint at a Christmas party that had some coke in it. Next thing I knew I was asking for more like some kind of crackhead. That was the last time cocaine entered my body.. Dec 1988.

Nice post.

I've only tried cannabis (smoked it) with my GF a couple of times (in my 20s, as a student), and also magic mushrooms recently (a couple of years ago), just once, with my nephew (he was the one who suggested it -- bad boy, he's in his 20s). The shroom trip was NICE. I saw vivid, saturated colors, distorted shapes, and talked about things I'd never really expected to talk to my nephew about. Now he knows all my dirty secrets!

The shrooms were an ego suppressor, at least that's how it felt. I just didn't care and was totally at ease, honest and uninhibited. Like an open book. Is this a normal reaction? Asking those who have taken / are taking shrooms. It felt good. Not feeling addicted to it, but would like to try a higher dosage (the dosage I tried was pretty low -- we were scared -- 1st time for both of us -- and last, as of now).

Cocaine, heroin: never tried, absolutely don't want to, and I don't think I need to.

Never tried Heroin because of this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNIgt6yKgDM

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What you gonna do
Time's caught up with you
Now you wait your turn
You know there's no return

Take your written rules
You join the other fools
Turn to something new
Now it's killing you

First it was the bomb
Vietnam napalm
Disillusioning
You push the needle in

From life you escape
Reality's black drape
Colors in your mind
Satisfy your time

Oh you, you know you must be blind
To do such things like this
To take the sweet that you don't know
You're giving Death a kiss
Poor little fool now

Your mind is full of pleasure
Your body's looking ill
To you it's shallow leisure
So drop the acid pill
Don't stop to think now

You're having a good time baby
But that won't last
Your mind's all full of things
You're living too fast

Go out, enjoy yourself
Don't bottle it in
You need someone to help you
Stick the needle in, yeah

Now you know the scene
Your skin starts turning green
Your eyes no longer seeing
Life's reality

Push the needle in
Face death's sickly grin
Holes are in your skin
Caused by deadly pin

Head starts spinning 'round
You fall down to the ground
Feel your body heave
Death hand starts to weave

It's too late to turn
You don't want to learn
Price of life you hide
Now you're gonna die!

That and When offered I was told I would get really sick first and I was like "Why the fuck would I want to get sick first just to get fucking High !??".

Funny thing is this song was banned from radio stations and might even still be.

*all the years I called and requested it and they said sure and never played it.
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December 07, 2025, 12:04:29 AM

I have not used pot since Jan 27 of 1991

I have not used coffee since 3pm Dec 6 2025

Coffee is really hard to quit for me and I have zero desire to quit it.

Pot was very easy to quit as where all other drugs except for booze I have 1 or 2 shots a week.
Why would someone want to quit coffee unless they have specific medical problems? It brings benefits besides the flavor.

i quit getting high gambling and cigarettes in the 90s

i was going to quit coffee and booze but quitting coffee hurt so After a week of withdrawal and a month of no coffee I went back to it and never regret it at all.

so no cigarettes or tobacco
no illegal drugs
no pot

is enough.
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What area of the world are you located?

Why does it matter where I am?

Bitcoin is a world-wide phenomena, and this thread is also a world-wide thread since we are talking about bitcoin not some pump of any particular product in any country..

Sure, the US does seem to get a disproportion amount of press, and this thread (and many of the forum threads) discusses bitcoin in terms of the USD pair, even though every once in a while some other currency pair might gain some temporary relevancy.

Maybe you should frame each of your posts in terms of US interests too.  That is really going to help you to appear like you understand bitcoin and/or want to understand bitcoin.

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I know that in the west there are various financial products that rich people can buy, yet there are other parts of the world too.. I suppose your ideal vision of the world would be for normies around the world to lock themselves into various bitcoin financial products, and then you feel like a winner as that angle of number go up pays off for you, until it doesn't.. until you get rug pulled out of your coins, yet you expect a bail out, since you trust the various financialization aspects of bitcoin.

JJG - I asked where in the world you are located because you specifically referred to 'the west' (see your quote above) when replying to me so that tip implied that you are somewhere to the east and probably not located in the west - and what you said was a veiled ridicule of various bitcoin financial products (presumed being offered in the U.S.).

It was just a brief passing curiosity, that's all. If you are ashamed to say - no problem. Let's move on...    

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I think but do not know that JJG is real I also think but do not know if he is US based.

In fact on this particular thread

I know DaveF and OgNasty are real

I met DaveF  in person  purchased,sold gear and coins to him

 I sold gear and shipped it to

OgNasty along with buying coins from Og.

Anyone else I do not know if they are real or fake or where they live.
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Impressive numbers (from reddit): 8 year DCA with $30 in bitcoin bought daily (must have automated this on some exchange).
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1pfkbn2/someone_has_been_buying_30_worth_of_bitcoin_daily/

$86000 invested, $1 mil-current value (i assume a bit more than 10 coins).
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That's funny, because when i try to "build" a inner vision of a close individual, they are always looking like comic representations, with constantly morphing faces, in dim light, very 2D, like printed on cardboard. They never look like they'd look to my eye IRL. But i had the ability to remember everything i had ever read under hyperfocus. I lost that, though, while psychologists say my aging brain needs mostly all the power to stay "high functioning", and it also quite feels that way.


That's interesting. My internal vision though is zero. Nothing. Black. Zip. I don't even see anything in my dreams. Almost ever. I can count the number of times that I've seen something in my dreams on one hand. And every time I woke up in a cold sweat, hyperventilating. Lol
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I think but do not know that JJG is real I also think but do not know if he is US based.

In fact on this particular thread

I know DaveF and OgNasty are real

I met DaveF  in person  purchased,sold gear and coins to him

 I sold gear and shipped it to

OgNasty along with buying coins from Og.

Anyone else I do not know if they are real or fake or where they live.

Phil - Of course we know you're real, and know where you live...
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I'm curious: what are your thoughts on Nietzsche?
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I think but do not know that JJG is real I also think but do not know if he is US based.

In fact on this particular thread

I know DaveF and OgNasty are real

I met DaveF  in person  purchased,sold gear and coins to him

 I sold gear and shipped it to

OgNasty along with buying coins from Og.

Anyone else I do not know if they are real or fake or where they live.

Be bop Buzz...

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Impressive numbers (from reddit): 8 year DCA with $30 in bitcoin bought daily (must have automated this on some exchange).
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1pfkbn2/someone_has_been_buying_30_worth_of_bitcoin_daily/

$86000 invested, $1 mil-current value (i assume a bit more than 10 coins).
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Why would someone want to quit coffee unless they have specific medical problems? It brings benefits besides the flavor.

The same could be said for alcohol as long as it's not abused.

Small amounts of alcohol daily have been shown to have significant health benefits.

Even larger amounts daily are acceptable if you pace them properly.

Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon lived to a ripe old age of 101 drinking heavily every day:

https://people.com/royals/queen-mother-drinking-habits/

Don't confuse abuse with use.
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I'm curious: what are your thoughts on Nietzsche?

Man, that's deep stuff!

It's too complicated and likely controversial to go into here, therefore I won't - except only to say I agree with Nietzsche's view of rejecting the notion of supernatural events. That should lift the curtain a little lot about my thoughts on Nietzsche...

Nietzsche's philosophy is more than just interesting - it really makes you think about what you've been taught to believe...    
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That's funny, because when i try to "build" a inner vision of a close individual, they are always looking like comic representations, with constantly morphing faces, in dim light, very 2D, like printed on cardboard. They never look like they'd look to my eye IRL. But i had the ability to remember everything i had ever read under hyperfocus. I lost that, though, while psychologists say my aging brain needs mostly all the power to stay "high functioning", and it also quite feels that way.


That's interesting. My internal vision though is zero. Nothing. Black. Zip. I don't even see anything in my dreams. Almost ever. I can count the number of times that I've seen something in my dreams on one hand. And every time I woke up in a cold sweat, hyperventilating. Lol

That's a very interesting topic. I am similar to @cAPSLOCK, so the topic is intriguing to me.
Interestingly, I don't feel any deficiency at all (don't miss it) and to me it helped to study some abstract concepts without a need for visualization.

The absence of the "mind's eye" in a small % of individuals is called 'aphantasia' and it first came to focus as late as 2015 when one of the first serious research paper was published on it (initially it was described as early as 1880).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aphantasia

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Many people were shocked to learn that their own ability or inability to visualize objects was not universal.

In short; if someone asks to imagine an apple with closed eyes, some people see a nice jucy apple, colored and everything, some see a sketch and some "see" nothing. The vision was fine in all tested individuals.

True "aphantasics" are close to 2-4 % of the population (depending on the extent of it, maybe just 1% for full aphantasics) and yes, they sometimes don't "see" dreams as well, but not in all cases.

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While the general population has about 2-4% aphantasia, a significant portion of people with aphantasia (
over 20%) work in science, computing, or math, suggesting a higher concentration than average in STEM fields, possibly due to strengths in processing complex, abstract information rather than mental imagery.

Sometimes, I think that this is a protective brain property...for example if the brain "sees" some nightmares, perhaps shutting down the "mind's eye" is a way to escape this.

I had a friend in grad school who was an exact opposite-he had hyperphantasia and said that he basically had two full life's: one during the day time and another during sleep where he had adventures every night with color, interesting themes, etc, like a movie. I was a bit jealous about this aspect of it as I typically don't recall dreams, with a few interesting exceptions.
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