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August 18, 2014, 12:37:23 PM |
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Even if it is manipulation, then the fact of the matter is that the enablers are those who go long on margin but neglect to cut their loose before a "manipulator" forces them by triggering a cascade. If they managed their positions properly, the manipulator would have no fertile ground.
The point is initial sale was to trigger the margin call. Are you still back pedalling and trying to make it like you sound reasonable? For a MOD, you're dumber than many newbies here. Look at LTC market, it has been manipulated right from start.... So has gold. So has every other market out there, if we go by your definition of manipulation. The point is these things happen all the time. And I am sick of hearing manipulation every time the price goes in a direction people don't like.
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August 18, 2014, 12:37:27 PM |
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Time to sell! ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Hurry throw everything out the window including the kitchen sink. I need my cheap coins! Cut LOOSE!!!!! ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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Miz4r
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August 18, 2014, 12:38:01 PM |
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Btc-e and Bitfinex are providing margin trading, Stamp doesn't. Guess which exchanges see these huge drops? 1+1=2 people, if you can't connect the dots you're an idiot simple as that.
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T.Stuart
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August 18, 2014, 12:38:38 PM |
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There are a couple of other possible scenarios (besides manipulation) too that could have played out. One scenario is a guy who accidentally clicks the wrong button or puts the sale in the wrong slot or price or quantity or whatever. Another scenario is a guy who stole coins and is trying to get rid of them quickly and does NOT care about price..
I was not around for previous low points between major bubbles, but people who were often speak about "capitulation", which as far as I can gather means a general loss of all hope. It might sound like a cop-out but I do feel that this didn't happen properly in April, and that it is a necessary part of the cycle. Incidentally I don't think the point of general group psychological capitulation necessarily should correlate with the lowest price, but we shall see...
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ChrisML
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August 18, 2014, 12:39:58 PM |
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you know bulls are still insisting since $630, I think they will start selling at 200 and dont fucking tell me it is not possible because we just saw 309... we will be there soon enough dont worry ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) On BTC-E, yes. Did you watch Bitstamp? It didnt give an actual fuck. We are talking about BTC-E here. ofcourse he can only trade on BTC-E.... he talked like hes been trading tons of bitcoin while the fact is hes just a poor Slovakian. I recall this fcker started from altcoins trading while bitcoin price soared. He even posted dumbest shit about "predicting" bitcoin price. Altcoins plan didnt go well, so did the bitcoin plan... wooohoo all for a couple of bitcoins. I know. He is probably still full retard into LTC. Must suck. I am full green bills ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) you sink alone my friend.... so much butthurts, I am Loving it ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Replies full with smileys also show a strong urge of anger and failure. Some may call it the fonziesyndrome. You just got ignored.
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mmitech
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August 18, 2014, 12:40:18 PM |
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I love it when you call yourself entrepreneur..... lol thats a new tittle for a failed engineer.
Do you really think i care if you're a dog or a rat?
your comments show that you care so much.... ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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seriouscoin
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August 18, 2014, 12:41:41 PM |
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Btc-e and Bitfinex are providing margin trading, Stamp doesn't. Guess which exchanges see these huge drops? 1+1=2 people, if you can't connect the dots you're an idiot simple as that.
Nah... they're gonna argue..... how do you know 1+1 = 2! Just like they saw the LTC buy trying to squeeze sell shorts but it failed, they still ask " how do you know"
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bangersdad
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August 18, 2014, 12:42:12 PM |
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BTC-e Trollbox is saying that btc-e has been hacked? truth or troll?
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mmitech
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August 18, 2014, 12:42:34 PM |
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August 18, 2014, 12:43:36 PM |
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Btc-e and Bitfinex are providing margin trading, Stamp doesn't. Guess which exchanges see these huge drops? 1+1=2 people, if you can't connect the dots you're an idiot simple as that.
Nah... they're gonna argue..... how do you know 1+1 = 2! Just like they saw the LTC buy trying to squeeze sell shorts but it failed, they still ask " how do you know" I'm not arguing that, in fact I'm arguing the exact opposite. This is just a natural side effect of having margin on your exchange. Manipulation or not, if people don't act wisely with their leveraged positions, then they can have liquidation cascades induced, and the triggers can be manifold, and do not have to be manipulative. That is my point.
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August 18, 2014, 12:46:26 PM |
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Some quality of your post. Its easy to recognize you because the same fcking avatar you have if you are a holder trying to sell now for this shitty price than let me tell you that you will regret it so much that you are gonna cry later just like the people before you who sold at 0.5 $ cried when LTC hitted 6$, i give you my word that it gonna hit 10 $ in few weeks.
than if you are a buyer trying to buy LTC and can't decide is it the right time or not or maybe trying to wait untill it gets less than 2$ you will gonna have so much time to regret and cry about it later.
I just wish i had some more money or BTC to threw it into LTC , i am so sad this moment, I've been looking to this price the hole morning and it just make me sad and angry that i can't take advantage of it . I bet when you said you made "shit tons of money", you mean couple hundred dollars to feed your family some shitty meals.
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August 18, 2014, 12:46:49 PM |
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Wonder what it is about this time of the morning. It's the witching hour.
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August 18, 2014, 12:48:26 PM |
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Will 450 hold on Stamp?
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August 18, 2014, 12:49:11 PM |
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Will 450 hold on Stamp?
nope, $3xx soon
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August 18, 2014, 12:49:27 PM |
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Wow, the shorts are going to make a killing.
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August 18, 2014, 12:49:52 PM |
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Is that some blood I see in those streets?
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August 18, 2014, 12:50:46 PM |
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I wish I had hodled my LTC short for a bit longer. This shitcoin just keeps going down.
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August 18, 2014, 12:51:00 PM |
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Some quality of your post. Its easy to recognize you because the same fcking avatar you have if you are a holder trying to sell now for this shitty price than let me tell you that you will regret it so much that you are gonna cry later just like the people before you who sold at 0.5 $ cried when LTC hitted 6$, i give you my word that it gonna hit 10 $ in few weeks.
than if you are a buyer trying to buy LTC and can't decide is it the right time or not or maybe trying to wait untill it gets less than 2$ you will gonna have so much time to regret and cry about it later.
I just wish i had some more money or BTC to threw it into LTC , i am so sad this moment, I've been looking to this price the hole morning and it just make me sad and angry that i can't take advantage of it . I bet when you said you made "shit tons of money", you mean couple hundred dollars to feed your family some shitty meals. can you post a link to that post ? I am sure it made sense at the time... ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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vortex1878
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August 18, 2014, 12:51:13 PM |
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... and it's gone. Oha.
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dakota neat
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August 18, 2014, 12:51:19 PM |
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another 1000 dump at stamp
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