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Question: How far will this leg take us?
$110K - 9 (8.3%)
$120K - 19 (17.6%)
$130K - 17 (15.7%)
$140K - 9 (8.3%)
$150K - 19 (17.6%)
$160K - 2 (1.9%)
$170K+ - 33 (30.6%)
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December 16, 2014, 10:21:54 AM

Getting close to buying time...I'm not seeing enough panic to buy yet though.
Buy when there's blood in the streets, even if the blood is your own.
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December 16, 2014, 10:23:37 AM

Every time I panic like everybody else.
Make sure you select the last option @ poll.

Grin
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December 16, 2014, 10:27:19 AM

why people already talking about buying?

plenty of time to buy till lower 200/
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December 16, 2014, 10:28:36 AM

Bitcoin is dead. Sell everything now!
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December 16, 2014, 10:30:39 AM

why people already talking about buying?

plenty of time to buy till lower 200/

Think you might be getting a bit greedy there, champ?
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December 16, 2014, 10:35:16 AM

Bitcoin is dead. Sell everything now!

It will go down forever, it always has!
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December 16, 2014, 10:38:45 AM

Bitcoin is dead. Sell everything now!

Thanks for the advice. I might take it into consideration.
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December 16, 2014, 10:38:53 AM

why people already talking about buying?

plenty of time to buy till lower 200/

Think you might be getting a bit greedy there, champ?

Greed is good.
I'm very happy that there are more people offering liquidity at lower prices when we get there.
I will defend the bottom @220 as well. Whee, cheap coins. Much profit.
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December 16, 2014, 10:39:36 AM

I'm beginning to concede that bitcoin is a failure.
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December 16, 2014, 10:42:10 AM

Bitcoin is dead. Sell everything now!

Thanks for the advice. I might take it into consideration.

Newbies don't have a lot to sell normally Smiley
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December 16, 2014, 10:42:44 AM

I'm beginning to concede that bitcoin is a failure.

CAPITULATION Smiley
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December 16, 2014, 10:42:50 AM

why people already talking about buying?

plenty of time to buy till lower 200/

Think you might be getting a bit greedy there, champ?

Greed is good.
I'm very happy that there are more people offering liquidity at lower prices when we get there.
I will defend the bottom @220 as well. Whee, cheap coins. Much profit.

sorry if already answered, but do you care to share why you think @220 will be the "real" bottom? (serious question)
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December 16, 2014, 10:48:16 AM

$330 support is not doing so well.
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December 16, 2014, 10:49:56 AM

why people already talking about buying?

plenty of time to buy till lower 200/

Think you might be getting a bit greedy there, champ?

Greed is good.
I'm very happy that there are more people offering liquidity at lower prices when we get there.
I will defend the bottom @220 as well. Whee, cheap coins. Much profit.

I think you misunderstand what I meant. What I mean is I disagree that this is going to plummet straight to 220 without any bounces. Another point I disagree on is that 220 will necessarily be the bottom, but time will tell.
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December 16, 2014, 10:50:49 AM


Greed is good.
I'm very happy that there are more people offering liquidity at lower prices when we get there.
I will defend the bottom @220 as well. Whee, cheap coins. Much profit.

sorry if already answered, but do you care to share why you think @220 will be the "real" bottom? (serious question)

Lots of technical stuff combined together (seriously) and then a ritual with a crystal ball (less serious).
Nobody knows for sure 100%.
I will go all in at 220 while my girlfriend is unemployed and we struggle to pay the bills.
I see it as a very good opportunity to solve some financial problems.

edit: or to go bankrupt Grin;D;D haha. But who gives a fuck, it's only money Grin
I have a nice job and good health, so I don't have a problem with taking the risk.
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December 16, 2014, 10:51:51 AM

we are getting closer Smiley

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December 16, 2014, 10:53:30 AM

I'm beginning to concede that bitcoin is a failure.

A failure at making you rich on the quick, maybe. Sending and receiving coins seems to work just fine, though, as does trading those coins for other things.
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December 16, 2014, 10:55:17 AM
Last edit: December 16, 2014, 02:33:20 PM by Wandererfromthenorth

Bitcoin was the first real technological breakthrough that allowed decentralisation of value transfers (something that cannot be double spent) over the internet.  
That's something big.

BUT it is such a broken down mess that it won't be the future of decentralised technologies.
Probably something else will.



BTC and blockchain fuck ups:


1) slow transactions (how can BTC replace cash if it takes one fucking hour to buy a cup of coffee? and no, accepting 0 confirmation transactions requires trust, kinda defies the whole purpose of using BTC doesn't it?)
2) mining centralisation and 51% attacks
3) transactions fees will need to be raised by a lot as block reward approaches 0
4) ridiculous uncontrolled inflation (14% a year currently, more than 3'000 BTCs mined a day)
5) scalability and blockchain bloat
6) You cannot put any other currency in the network
7) future quantum computers could easily break encryption


With these serious problems BTC cannot be a viable currency long term.

BTC pumped a gazillionX when marketcap was so tiny that it only took a bunch of joker millionaires to pump it (then irrational euphoria did the rest).
It was an incredible investment at less than 1$. It was a very good investment at $10. At $100 definitely not bad.
But at $1000 or at $500... not so much (unless you knew how to short the market, in that case you did amazingly well eheh  Grin)


Now that the problems with BTC and the blockchain are becoming apparent, now that other solutions are appearing, and now that the marketcap is too big for current inexistent demand, BTC might be toast.


I will probably buy BTC when I think a big bounce is coming (just to sell higher), but I don't think it is safe to expect another bull market (not something that can last anyway).


If not Ripple, something similar will be the future, not BTC.
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December 16, 2014, 11:00:30 AM


Explanation
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December 16, 2014, 11:02:23 AM

why people already talking about buying?

plenty of time to buy till lower 200/

Think you might be getting a bit greedy there, champ?

Greed is good.
I'm very happy that there are more people offering liquidity at lower prices when we get there.
I will defend the bottom @220 as well. Whee, cheap coins. Much profit.

I think you misunderstand what I meant. What I mean is I disagree that this is going to plummet straight to 220 without any bounces. Another point I disagree on is that 220 will necessarily be the bottom, but time will tell.


in fact it wont. it will be a slow and painful grind with pro traders taking money and profits from noobs whenever they can.
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