[Work in progess] Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service

[burnin]

Will the website have shipping options/pricing?

Yes, express and standard.

For what do i need the watercooler?
If I'm running the machines without overclocking, it isn't really neccessary, is it?

Air cooling is sufficient for decent overclocking.
Why water cooling?

• Less noise
• slightly better cooling
• possible to use the heat elsewhere (heating?)

Water cooling is only for those that have the technical knowledge to do it.
If you don't have a firm grasp on how to create a WC setup, stay with air.

What will determine your position in the queue: order number or order number only when paid?
If someone pays with BTC it would add an advantage opposite to SEPA transfer, so it would be great to add some time, for example payment has to be recieved by Burnin within 4 days.

Order number not payment date is the factor in order to promote SEPA transfers (which is the cheapest for me).

lets say I order 2 boards- 1fan for both... so do I have to order one board with fan and one without???

No, in the "complete" package has one fan per 2 boards included and one micro usb every 16.
The "without cooling" board includes only the populated PCB nothing else.
The complete package will include everything needed apart from the stacking cable.

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[tarmi]

burnin, if I order from Russia, but want to pick the boards myself, will you send me MwSt, and ship the goods to an address in Germany without VAT (because I will pay in bitcoins)?

how will you return VAT for orders paid in BTC?

also, I planned to order 15 10 chip boards, now they dont make any sense.

[SebastianJu]

No stacking cable? Can you provide a link where to buy it then since i dont have a clue what i should have to search.

I would like to order with heatsinks but without fans, because i will buy my own fans. Thats possible?

And the heatsink you tested overclocking with is the black one in the images? Thats the production heatsink too?

[alfabitcoin]

No stacking cable? Can you provide a link where to buy it then since i dont have a clue what i should have to search.

I think this one will fit, but need to burnin confirmation
https://www.sparkfun.com/products/8506

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need a female

http://www.pololu.com/catalog/product/1025

[SebastianJu]

No stacking cable? Can you provide a link where to buy it then since i dont have a clue what i should have to search.

I think this one will fit, but need to burnin confirmation
https://www.sparkfun.com/products/8506

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need a female

Thats only a connector. I would prefer to buy ready made cables before i start trying to build them on my own.

[HeRetiK]

+1 @ stacking cable, I'd also like to know which type it is.

another question: the full package will contain one fan for every two boards. so if I have an odd number of boards, I'll have to buy an additional fan separately?

[alfabitcoin]

No stacking cable? Can you provide a link where to buy it then since i dont have a clue what i should have to search.

I think this one will fit, but need to burnin confirmation
https://www.sparkfun.com/products/8506

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need a female

Thats only a connector. I would prefer to buy ready made cables before i start trying to build them on my own.

Here it is, with cable...burnin please confirm
https://www.sparkfun.com/products/8535

[Yanz]

I think these are the right ones...
https://www.sparkfun.com/products/10650

and the wire
https://www.sparkfun.com/products/10647

[CumpsD]

I hope to be able to order the stacking cable as well as some PSU power cables as well on the store

Time will tell, a few hours

[alfabitcoin]

I think these are the right ones...
https://www.sparkfun.com/products/10650

and the wire
https://www.sparkfun.com/products/10647

First one is correct but its only connector and other is only wires no connectors and need to attach it yourself.

This is correct one with cable 6in and 2 female 2pin connectors.
https://www.sparkfun.com/products/8535

[itod]

I have to admit this heatsink/fan stuff is confusing, I would like to get official reply from Burnin:

96 EUR BitBurner 20 version, does it have a heatsink?

I would like to order *with* heatsink but *without* fan, is this the version for me?

Thanks.

[Yanz]

First one is correct but its only connector and other is only wires no connectors and need to attach it yourself.

This is correct one with cable 6in and 2 female 2pin connectors.
https://www.sparkfun.com/products/8535

I was under the impression that up to 16 boards can be on one cable so if you need more than 2 boards you have to custom make your cable.

[m5]

First one is correct but its only connector and other is only wires no connectors and need to attach it yourself.

This is correct one with cable 6in and 2 female 2pin connectors.
https://www.sparkfun.com/products/8535

I was under the impression that up to 16 boards can be on one cable so if you need more than 2 boards you have to custom make your cable.

Yes that is correct. The ready cable is good only for 2 boards without possibility to add another board.
So you should buy one long cable + the same number of connectors as you have boards. It should be easy to install the connectors, just snap the cable in and connector will strip the insulation off.

[northcape]

I have to admit this heatsink/fan stuff is confusing, I would like to get official reply from Burnin:

96 EUR BitBurner 20 version, does it have a heatsink?

I would like to order *with* heatsink but *without* fan, is this the version for me?

Thanks.

going by burnin's comments so far...

If you order one board with a heatsink, you won’t get a fan.
If you order two or three boards with heatsink, you’ll get one fan for free. If you order four or five boards with heatsinks, you’ll get two fans for free… and so on.

Stacking cable can be ordered from the shop for ~8€ and cheaper than that if you get the unassembled version IIRC.

[AM4Bitcoin]

I have to admit this heatsink/fan stuff is confusing, I would like to get official reply from Burnin:

96 EUR BitBurner 20 version, does it have a heatsink?

I would like to order *with* heatsink but *without* fan, is this the version for me?

Thanks.

If you order one board with a heatsink, you won’t get a fan.
If you order two or three boards with heatsink, you’ll get one fan for free. If you order four or five boards with heatsinks, you’ll get two fans for free… and so on.

Stacking cable can be ordered from the shop for ~8€ and cheaper than that if you get the unassembled version IIRC.

Are your sure? burnin says:

The "without cooling" board includes only the populated PCB nothing else.

So no heatsink?

[itod]

I have to admit this heatsink/fan stuff is confusing, I would like to get official reply from Burnin:

96 EUR BitBurner 20 version, does it have a heatsink?

I would like to order *with* heatsink but *without* fan, is this the version for me?

Thanks.

If you order one board with a heatsink, you won’t get a fan.
If you order two or three boards with heatsink, you’ll get one fan for free. If you order four or five boards with heatsinks, you’ll get two fans for free… and so on.

Stacking cable can be ordered from the shop for ~8€ and cheaper than that if you get the unassembled version IIRC.

Problem is the terminology "cooler" in circular email, what does cooler mean? fan? heatsink + fan?

I will order only one BitBurner 20, and I want heatsink but fan is unnecessary, I have dozens of them. How much should I pay, 96 EUR or 105 EUR?

Am I the only one confused?

[northcape]

I have to admit this heatsink/fan stuff is confusing, I would like to get official reply from Burnin:

96 EUR BitBurner 20 version, does it have a heatsink?

I would like to order *with* heatsink but *without* fan, is this the version for me?

Thanks.

If you order one board with a heatsink, you won’t get a fan.
If you order two or three boards with heatsink, you’ll get one fan for free. If you order four or five boards with heatsinks, you’ll get two fans for free… and so on.

Stacking cable can be ordered from the shop for ~8€ and cheaper than that if you get the unassembled version IIRC.

Are your sure? burnin says:

The "without cooling" board includes only the populated PCB nothing else.

So no heatsink?

If you order the naked board specifically without cooling, why would you expect a fan to come with it? Did you even read what I typed?

There will be three versions AFAIK:

• complete (complete board, heatsink on each board, you get one free fan per two boards, hardware for stacking... essentially everything but the bus cable)
• normal aka "without cooler" (assembled board populated with chips, presumably nothing else except maybe some hardware bits to stack the boards, but im not sure)
• PCB (naked PCBs without chips)

and maybe one version with watercooling, who knows.

source:

No, in the "complete" package has one fan per 2 boards included and one micro usb every 16.
The "without cooling" board includes only the populated PCB nothing else.
The complete package will include everything needed apart from the stacking cable.

[SebastianJu]

But some would prefer to get the miner with heatsink, but without fan... it sounded to me thats possible, now im not so sure anymore.

[itod]

But some would prefer to get the miner with heatsink, but without fan... it sounded to me thats possible, now im not so sure anymore.

Exactly. Heatsink should be carefully designed to match the power dissipation of the chips, the size, etc, I wouldn't dare to buy separate. Fan, on the contrary, you can buy at every corner computer shop in every city in the world, no need to ship from Germany.

[jcp]

The price difference between without heatsink and with heatsink+fan is 8-9 EUR.

Why not just make a comment in the order to not send a fan if you don't want one?

An extra product type is a massive hassle in fulfillment. To save a couple EUR per board on your money printing machine sounds unreasonable, to say the least.