Police State?

[Severian]

You could be in chains tomorrow and you'll somehow equate it to freedom.

NAIL SOME SENSE INTO THEM, I SAY!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EI7p2p1QJI

[Mike Christ]

Let me make is as simple as I can, simpleton:

The other price is having to put up with people who like to talk more than think.

You are not a day over 25.

Lol.  So I'm stupid, because I'm not as old as you?  And you're smart because you're older?

You realize how this can lead someone to believe they're intelligent, when they're dumb as nails, don't you?  Of course not, if you believe you're wiser because you're older.  You could tell me the sky was pink and I'd have to believe it, because you're older, right?

Listen: come back when you have a real argument to present.  You're not convincing anyone you have a lick of brain matter left after your head's been fried from American propaganda.

I mean, really: anyone who believes "If you're not an American, your points are irrelevant" cannot be thinking.  You may be over the hill, but until you outgrow your belief in the Santa Clause, you're still a kid to me.

[Severian]

So I'm stupid, because I'm not as old as you?  And you're smart because you're older?

I'm in my 50's and learn a lot here from people younger than I am.

You're officially old when you decide to stop learning.

[Mike Christ]

So I'm stupid, because I'm not as old as you?  And you're smart because you're older?

I'm in my 50's and learn a lot here from people younger than I am.

You're officially old when you decide to stop learning.

I would've never guessed   And that scene is hilarious!

[Viceroy]

I'm in my 50's and learn a lot here from people younger than I am.

Im not 50 yet, but it takes a certain degree of experience to wield the big microphone Mike is trying to wield... but he aint there yet.  Most "kids" don't have it.  He just like to talk to hear himself.  I mean look at his avatar, doesn't it tell you everything you need to know about this young naive one?  (read:narcissist).

[myrkul]

I'm in my 50's and learn a lot here from people younger than I am.

Im not 50 yet, but it takes a certain degree of experience to wield the big microphone Mike is trying to wield... but he aint there yet.  Most "kids" don't have it.  He just like to talk to hear himself.

Luckily, advocating the State requires only a calcified worldview and willful ignorance. You've got that wrapped.

[Severian]

(read:narcissist).

He exhibits empathy so he's not a narcissist.

In my experience, narcissists are attracted to the doctrines of the State and its collectivist offshoots. Emotionally functioning human beings are drawn to philosophies that are more in tune with individual liberties over the power  of the State.

[Severian]

Luckily, advocating the State requires only a calcified worldview and willful ignorance.

Lack of heart, soul, duende or whatever one wishes to call it also helps.

[myrkul]

Luckily, advocating the State requires only a calcified worldview and willful ignorance.

Lack of heart, soul, duende or whatever one wishes to call it also helps.

And can even replace willful ignorance, if so desired.

[Severian]

And can even replace willful ignorance, if so desired.

I think a lot of what we see as willful ignorance is just conditioning brought on by trauma. The govt/media combine works overtime to traumatize people into losing their ability to think critically. It's one of the oldest tricks of tyranny going back to the days when we lived in small bands and cunning individuals learned to manipulate those around them by instilling fear.

"The more afraid you are of me and the more power I can make you think I have, the less likely you are to question me" is the guiding light of all tyrants, abusers and sadists that have ever lived.

[myrkul]

And can even replace willful ignorance, if so desired.

I think a lot of what we see as willful ignorance is just conditioning brought on by trauma.

If I don't see the Fnord!s they cant hurt me.

[Severian]

If I don't see the Fnord!s they cant hurt me.

I gotta pull the wool over my own eyes.

[Viceroy]

I gotta pull the wool over my own eyes.

I can see for miles and miles, and recall my initial post in this thread

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=181212.msg1895391#msg1895391

[myrkul]

I gotta pull the wool over my own eyes.

I can see for miles and miles, and recall my initial post in this thread

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=181212.msg1895391#msg1895391

All I see is someone trying to convince me (and himself?) that tanks rolling down the street to catch two people is FREEDOM.

[Viceroy]

All I see is someone trying to convince me (and himself?) that tanks rolling down the street to catch two people is FREEDOM.

Again dude, let's deal with facts.  The FACT is that these idiots were fleeing while dropping pip-bombs.  Are you going to chase them on a horse with a sword?

[Jaagu]

...they have shown the video of him [chechnyan] setting the package down and the package blowing up. So that is your proof.

And what about this:

[myrkul]

All I see is someone trying to convince me (and himself?) that tanks rolling down the street to catch two people is FREEDOM.

Again dude, let's deal with facts.  The FACT is that these idiots were fleeing while dropping pip-bombs.  Are you going to chase them on a horse with a sword?

What's a pip-bomb?

And no, I wouldn't use a horse and a sword. I'd use a police car.

[Viceroy]

A pipe bomb is an explosive device made with a typical plumbers pipe, capped on both ends and perhaps lit with a fuse.    You gonna catch one of those with your hand out the window of your police car?

Sorry dude, I don't "go" for propaganda.  The truth remains that this guy appears to be the bomber and until the prosecution and defense reset their cases anything like you've shown is simply non-sense.

As I suggested in my posts, people still think George Bush blew up the WTC.  Stick to the facts, let's not speculate.   Anything else is just noise (or deliberate propaganda).

Note:  The source of the posted image a conspiracy site: http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/

[myrkul]

A pipe bomb is an explosive device made with a typical plumbers pipe, capped on both ends and perhaps lit with a fuse. 

Yes, I know what a pipe bomb is, and if I saw one, I would call the bomb squad to come dispose of it. But you said they were dropping pip-bombs, which you have yet to define.

[Viceroy]

I don't have to define anything.  I saw it on live TV.  


"On Thursday night, hours after the radicalized Muslims were fingered by the FBI and their images circulated around the world, they killed a Massachusetts Institute of Technology police officer and carjacked an SUV from a man who later escaped. The brothers led police on a chase through city streets that included a wild shootout that saw some 200 shots fired and the suspects hurling pipe bombs from the SUV. Bizarrely, police discounted earlier reports that the brothers had robbed a 7/11, saying although it had been robbed, and they had been caught on surveillance video, they were not the robbers."

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/20/second-boston-bombing-suspect-in-custody/


The above is a record of facts along with some speculation thrown in for good measure.