Police State?

[wdmw]

Take away separation of powers would be an essential first step.  From that point on, you are on a sliding slope to tyranny.

This guys seems to think we already have a problem with separation of powers in the United States.
http://www.law.northwestern.edu/lawreview/v106/n2/527/LR106n2Calabresi.pdf

What's the second step?

[Viceroy]

Lots of professors write papers.  America is not a police state.  Can you find a scholar who concludes otherwise?

[myrkul]

You know, replace "terrorist" with "jew" and this guy really starts to sound like antibanker.

[wdmw]

Lots of professors write papers.  America is not a police state.  Can you find a scholar who concludes otherwise?

You mistake me, I'm not trying to find proof that America is a police state.  I'm asking what it would take for America to become a police state.

It seems to me that there is a scale between anarchy and totalitarianism.  There are no complete totalitarian states, nor are there any complete anarchic states.  I would put Hong Kong towards the anarchy side of the scale, and North Korea towards to the totalitarian side of the scale.

It seems to me that the intention of the OP was to point out that the events surrounding the hunt for the suspect implicated in the Boston Marathon bombings slid the United States further towards the totalitarian side of the scale to some degree.  It seems that the counter argument is that the United States has not crossed the line into being a 'police state'.   These views are not incompatible.

My question is, where is the line?  What events have to occur to cross the threshold?

[Viceroy]

You know, replace "terrorist" with "jew" and this guy really starts to sound like antibanker.

I am offended at this off topic racial slur.  Please ban the user.

[myrkul]

You know, replace "terrorist" with "jew" and this guy really starts to sound like antibanker.

I am offended at this off topic racial slur.  Please ban the user.

I wouldn't hold your breath, chief. Especially since I made no racial slur.

[Viceroy]

You just implied that all bankers are jews, this is a racial slur.   Isn't that EXACTLY what Hitler said?

Furthermore you implied that I was the one making the slur, which I did not.

[gweedo]

You just implied that all bankers are jews, this is a racial slur.   Isn't that EXACTLY what Hitler said?

No he is talking about a hateful user, called antibanker who was about talking about jews and banking.

[Viceroy]

really?  you mean he was not implying that all banker are jews?  I just searched the forum for antibanker and see no such user.

[myrkul]

Meanwhile amongst the idiocy, let's not let this get forgotten:

Lots of professors write papers.  America is not a police state.  Can you find a scholar who concludes otherwise?

You mistake me, I'm not trying to find proof that America is a police state.  I'm asking what it would take for America to become a police state.

It seems to me that there is a scale between anarchy and totalitarianism.  There are no complete totalitarian states, nor are there any complete anarchic states.  I would put Hong Kong towards the anarchy side of the scale, and North Korea towards to the totalitarian side of the scale.

It seems to me that the intention of the OP was to point out that the events surrounding the hunt for the suspect implicated in the Boston Marathon bombings slid the United States further towards the totalitarian side of the scale to some degree.  It seems that the counter argument is that the United States has not crossed the line into being a 'police state'.   These views are not incompatible.

My question is, where is the line?  What events have to occur to cross the threshold?

[Viceroy]

Alright Gweedo, I'll accept that there is such a user.  I will not accept, though, that myrkul is anti-terrorist as I have seen no evidence to support that theory.  He is a piece of shit who hates his country and for the benefit of the world he and his spawn should move one state south of his current location.

[myrkul]

Alright Gweedo, I'll accept that there is such a user.  I will not accept, though, that myrkul is anti-terrorist as I have seen no evidence to support that theory.  He is a piece of shit who hates his country and for the benefit of the world he and his spawn should move one state south of his current location.

I love you, too, Viceroy. 

[Viceroy]

Not interested.  I am not gay and I am happily married.

[myrkul]

Not interested.  I am not gay and I am happily married.

Then why were you bragging about your cock size, if not to entice a size queen? (btw, if it really is as big as a sequoia, I doubt that marriage is "happy," unless you're married to Godzilla.)

[anu]

I will not accept, though, that myrkul is anti-terrorist as I have seen no evidence to support that theory. 

Guilty until proven innocent. That's the spirit!

[Viceroy]

he started it.

[anu]

loads of stuff.....

You know what? You remind me of my grandfather. He was a good man. Honest like no other. But brainwashed. He went through the hell of Stalingrad and through the Russian war prison camps. Survived. Barely. Then thrived in the post war West Germany. Still, he wasn't able to see the evil of the Nazi empire and defended the system. Even though he suffered from it in ways we can't even imagine today. Even though the light shone directly into his eyes.

Right or wrong, my country.

[myrkul]

loads of stuff.....

You know what? You remind me of my grandfather. He was a good man. Honest like no other. But brainwashed. He went through the hell of Stalingrad and through the Russian war prison camps. Survived. Barely. Then thrived in the post war West Germany. Still, he wasn't able to see the evil of the Nazi empire and defended the system. Even though he suffered from it in ways we can't even imagine today. Even though the light shone directly into his eyes.

Right or wrong, my country.

First they came...

[Viceroy]

Right or wrong, my country.

Well we in America welcome opinions one and all.  But if you think I'm a NAZI or blind to the atrocities committed by MY government you are a fool and you do not know me at all.  That said America is not now nor has it ever been a Police State.

Nazi's don't smoke pot.  I do.  I am against Federal Intervention.  I am more like a hippie than a nationalist. 

First they came...

for your cat you terrorist loving piece of shit.

[myrkul]

First they came...

for your cat you terrorist loving piece of shit.

Are you threatening my pets, now?

Good god, man, how low will you sink?