@RogerVer lets make a deal. At least 60k, my BTU for your BTC.

[Quickseller]

I think it is quite the stretch to say that Bitmain is infringing on the ASICBOOST patent, that Bitmain supports BU, that Rodger Ver supports BU, and therefore Ver is infringing on the ASICBOOST patent. I don't think any activist judge would make this conclusion even if the first claim is shown to be true, which actually makes very little sense if u/nullc is to be believed because his story honestly does not add up.

I don't even think they are infringing on it. US copyright doesn't always apply in China, and bitmain owns the patent for asicboost in china:
http://211.157.104.77:8080/sipo_EN/search/detail.do?method=view&parm=16b414c21a2f19d11b2c18401bcd1a5f183a19561ad91be11a501c4805792c231f5421b222572195236c20482755275723ca24be2221222525702494250d26c0274025822c3f29092a7c29a02d6d2d6f28fa2ed62bd12c892f482c34330947932f5c2c0a2ac731b9333c316c366534e7318235ee337934f1360837f03747371b371a34e231bf38f13b04390c3e0d3f6f39ea3dc63c573d6d3e683e4c26d918c33ffe3c523c273e354334405c47c545774302408e4423458d47b04688462b46a846c246aa436f47554bcc49784a2d

I don't think China respects IP laws very much anyway.

[deeplink]

Lol ASICBOOST

More than 24 hours have passed since it became clear why the Chinese mining mafia was really supporting Rogercoin.

Still no word from Roger Ver about how 1) he was either played like a fool to help them block Segwit or 2) he was involved in this game to block technical progress for selfish reasons (while pretending to have the moral high ground).

It is starting to sound a lot like the dubious role he had in the MtGox fiasco, assuring people in a video that everything was alright, their money was safe, right before they went dark.

[andyatcrux]

Lol ASICBOOST

More than 24 hours have passed since it became clear why the Chinese mining mafia was really supporting Rogercoin.

Still no word from Roger Ver about how 1) he was either played like a fool to help them block Segwit or 2) he was involved in this game to block technical progress for selfish reasons (while pretending to have the moral high ground).

It is starting to sound a lot like the dubious role he had in the MtGox fiasco, assuring people in a video that everything was alright, their money was safe, right before they went dark.

https://youtu.be/y4SCAw264qM       A classic.

[MemoryDealers]

Loaded has still not replied to me.
I also heard through the grapevine that the author of the article that claimed I had backed out of this bet was paid by Blockstream.
I don't know if that is true or not,  but it would be very interesting if someone could prove that he was paid by Blockstream to write those lies.
Shame on JP Buntinx for writing it.

[jdebunt]

Loaded has still not replied to me.
I also heard through the grapevine that the author of the article that claimed I had backed out of this bet was paid by Blockstream.
I don't know if that is true or not,  but it would be very interesting if someone could prove that he was paid by Blockstream to write those lies.
Shame on JP Buntinx for writing it.

You are absolutely delusional and make the oddest claims to back yourself out of the corner you are now trapped in.

I don't even know any of the members of Blockstream, let alone they would know who I am.

Your allegations are seriously getting on my nerves, to say the least. I even went through the trouble of writing an updated article, yet you handily seem to ignore that.

You are the laughing stock of the bitcoin community, Ver, and your gig is up. Just admit you grasp at straws to justify yourself and fail miserably at doing so.

Going after me personally will not you by any means, but rest assured i don't forget personal attacks so easily.

[paul gatt]

Loaded has still not replied to me.
I also heard through the grapevine that the author of the article that claimed I had backed out of this bet was paid by Blockstream.
I don't know if that is true or not,  but it would be very interesting if someone could prove that he was paid by Blockstream to write those lies.
Shame on JP Buntinx for writing it.

You are absolutely delusional and make the oddest claims to back yourself out of the corner you are now trapped in.

I don't even know any of the members of Blockstream, let alone they would know who I am.

Your allegations are seriously getting on my nerves, to say the least. I even went through the trouble of writing an updated article, yet you handily seem to ignore that.

You are the laughing stock of the bitcoin community, Ver, and your gig is up. Just admit you grasp at straws to justify yourself and fail miserably at doing so.

Going after me personally will not you by any means, but rest assured i don't forget personal attacks so easily.

I think we all should not continue to debate this issue, everything is over. BU will definitely not be allowed to appear. BTC is forever BTC and there are no other changes. We are not here to argue, we should not criminish each other when the war is over, let peace exist bitcoin war like the war between the powers of the world. Please stop all controversy about this war.

[jonald_fyookball]

Loaded has still not replied to me.
I also heard through the grapevine that the author of the article that claimed I had backed out of this bet was paid by Blockstream.
I don't know if that is true or not,  but it would be very interesting if someone could prove that he was paid by Blockstream to write those lies.
Shame on JP Buntinx for writing it.

You are absolutely delusional and make the oddest claims to back yourself out of the corner you are now trapped in.

I don't even know any of the members of Blockstream, let alone they would know who I am.

Your allegations are seriously getting on my nerves, to say the least. I even went through the trouble of writing an updated article, yet you handily seem to ignore that.

You are the laughing stock of the bitcoin community, Ver, and your gig is up. Just admit you grasp at straws to justify yourself and fail miserably at doing so.

Going after me personally will not you by any means, but rest assured i don't forget personal attacks so easily.

Lol.  You just admitted your complete bias toward Roger.  Very journalistic of you.

Can you please post the updated article?

[bentcrypto]

Still no word from the OP??

Hasn't been online since Ver accepted the bet .
Maybe he had a few too many wines that night? 

[bitkilo]

Still no word from the OP??

Hasn't been online since Ver accepted the bet .
Maybe he had a few too many wines that night? 

Loaded thought it would be a good idea to challenge Roger to a trade deal thinking that Roger wouldn't accept and he could then gloat in some way but it looks now like it backfired. Roger did publicly agreed to discuss terms but ever since Loaded is suddenly nowhere to be seen.

[X7]

Still no word from the OP??

Hasn't been online since Ver accepted the bet .
Maybe he had a few too many wines that night? 

Loaded thought it would be a good idea to challenge Roger to a trade deal thinking that Roger wouldn't accept and he could then gloat in some way but it looks now like it backfired. Roger did publicly agreed to discuss terms but ever since Loaded is suddenly nowhere to be seen.

Still tons of people who offered their BTC - thousands of BTC if you tally them up. Getting into a debate about one man is a pointless deflection.

[jonald_fyookball]

Still no word from the OP??

Hasn't been online since Ver accepted the bet .
Maybe he had a few too many wines that night? 

Loaded thought it would be a good idea to challenge Roger to a trade deal thinking that Roger wouldn't accept and he could then gloat in some way but it looks now like it backfired. Roger did publicly agreed to discuss terms but ever since Loaded is suddenly nowhere to be seen.

never try to bluff against bitcoin Jesus 

[bitkilo]

Still no word from the OP??

Hasn't been online since Ver accepted the bet .
Maybe he had a few too many wines that night? 

Loaded thought it would be a good idea to challenge Roger to a trade deal thinking that Roger wouldn't accept and he could then gloat in some way but it looks now like it backfired. Roger did publicly agreed to discuss terms but ever since Loaded is suddenly nowhere to be seen.

never try to bluff against bitcoin Jesus 

I didn't think anything would come of it after I seen Quickseller pointed out that the deal put forward was all favoured towards Loaded.
Roger is a business man so would always be willing to discuss deals but he wouldn't sign up to just anything to please the community, he hasn't got to where he is now by making bad deals.

Doesn't matter anyway since its loaded that never continued communications.

[MemoryDealers]

As of this moment,  Loaded still has not contacted in any way despite my asking him to, and providing all of my personal contact details.
I think it is fair to say that Loaded has backed out,  or never had any intention of going through with the deal in the first place. 

Meanwhile, Greg Maxwell and others are going around spreading the lie that I've backed out of this deal.

Loaded, I'm still waiting to hear from you!

[deeplink]

Why? There is not going to be a hard fork, so the deal is moot.

[cellard]

As of this moment,  Loaded still has not contacted in any way despite my asking him to, and providing all of my personal contact details.
I think it is fair to say that Loaded has backed out,  or never had any intention of going through with the deal in the first place. 

Meanwhile, Greg Maxwell and others are going around spreading the lie that I've backed out of this deal.

Loaded, I'm still waiting to hear from you!

I don't think he cares anymore. You said 48 hours, you took a lot more, and this was when all of this was relevant. BU is no longer relevant. Futures show BTC-U has been dumped into oblivion. Nodes keep crashing while you claim they are production ready, f2pool already joined segwit, 75% of everyone running relevant services want segwit. BU rejected by 70%!



https://medium.com/@21/using-21-to-survey-blockchain-personalities-on-the-bitcoin-hard-fork-1953c9bcb8ed

We would like to know why you keep ignoring reality.

[gentlemand]

https://medium.com/@21/using-21-to-survey-blockchain-personalities-on-the-bitcoin-hard-fork-1953c9bcb8ed

We would like to know why you keep ignoring reality.

They're not miners so they don't count. The users will of course do what their mining overlords tell them to do and pile in to a system that breaks every few hours.

[mastertrader777]

You guys let Ver troll the shit out of you.

Plain and simple....

You look like guppies, being strung around behind the curtain.

Who cares about BTU...

Like 2 BTC in VOL?

Wasting your time here don't you think?

Lames.

[mindrust]

Loaded already made his proposition, and Ver has accepted it. What else does Ver need? BU hasn't forked yet, BTC-U don't exist yet. So why does he wait for Loaded's response? Goddamn troll. Fork BU and come again.

He is trolling this thread into a fake win.

[Nagadota]

https://medium.com/@21/using-21-to-survey-blockchain-personalities-on-the-bitcoin-hard-fork-1953c9bcb8ed

We would like to know why you keep ignoring reality.

They're not miners so they don't count. The users will of course do what their mining overlords tell them to do and pile in to a system that breaks every few hours.

No, the users will follow whatever is the logical course of action.*

The previous Bitcoin is likely to activate SegWit if there's a low-consensus split, which pretty much will definitely happen.  Regardless of any attacks on the minority chain, SegWit will probably come out on top for economic support.


*except for online wallet users and other bank supporters

[cellard]

https://medium.com/@21/using-21-to-survey-blockchain-personalities-on-the-bitcoin-hard-fork-1953c9bcb8ed

We would like to know why you keep ignoring reality.

They're not miners so they don't count. The users will of course do what their mining overlords tell them to do and pile in to a system that breaks every few hours.

No, the users will follow whatever is the logical course of action.*

The previous Bitcoin is likely to activate SegWit if there's a low-consensus split, which pretty much will definitely happen.  Regardless of any attacks on the minority chain, SegWit will probably come out on top for economic support.


*except for online wallet users and other bank supporters

I would like to avoid any sort of split and see segwit activated with miner consensus just like LTC and other coins, but im afraid Jihad will keep avoiding it in order to keep his ASICBOOST scam running. He doesn't care about LTC because he can't use ASICBOOST there, he was just avoiding it because he couldn't be able to explain why he suddenly decided to signal for it while blocking it on bitcoin (as disclosed by the chat leaks) but he finally accepted. Now LTC is mooning and will scale to trillions of transactions per second. BTC is mooning too but let's see how long it lasts.