toonwer
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I honestly can't believe how many frustrated people are in this thread. Here's the thing. NO ONE is pushing you to invest in ANY ICO or established company for that matter, so shut the fuck up, suck it up and move on, or wait like the rest of us and see how everything unfolds - you may lose money, or you will probably make money. No one fucking knows, chill the out. In all honesty, if I or anyone else were 100% sure the ROI will be double, triple, quadruple.. hell x30 times, we'd invest everything, we'd probably sell our cars, houses and even make loans to invest.
Well, I can understand them. However investors just wanted to get what's been promised from dev team. So, in my opinion, dev team should to pick up losses... Recalculate the bonus and send it to those people who are get wrong payment. I expect that this move enhance the credibility of the SONM team, imho. p.s Eventually it was their(sonm) own mistake... their fault!
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dz4505
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July 09, 2017, 06:20:30 PM |
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@Almeida please give us your adress so we can drop you your 5k coins to leave us in peace ...
Deal: 0x9C9582FB1b6e1e22F4C09F86fDa41681241d590f This will be interesting to see if he puts up. He is just trolling, I'd leave it alone if he gave me 5000 tokens tho. I'm kinda sick of reading your posts, but I understand your feelings. I still think you should atleast deal via PM's here instead of writing all your crypto-life here on this thread. It stresses me to read your 4541 lines long of "give me my 5k tokens !" (shortened version). But I get your rage too. Anyway, good luck, and please, if they respond of course, use PM here. Airing dirty laundry is how you get a response. Look at Poloniex customers for example. Ppl held hostage for 2 months. Gets popular on Reddit, fixed within 2 days.
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Almeida
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July 09, 2017, 06:26:39 PM |
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@Almeida please give us your adress so we can drop you your 5k coins to leave us in peace ...
Deal: 0x9C9582FB1b6e1e22F4C09F86fDa41681241d590f This will be interesting to see if he puts up. He is just trolling, I'd leave it alone if he gave me 5000 tokens tho. I'm kinda sick of reading your posts, but I understand your feelings. I still think you should atleast deal via PM's here instead of writing all your crypto-life here on this thread. It stresses me to read your 4541 lines long of "give me my 5k tokens !" (shortened version). But I get your rage too. Anyway, good luck, and please, if they respond of course, use PM here. I know you are, believe me I'd be too and I get no offense from your comment. If you read some of the posts you would see that I tried to solve privately like multiple times without success: emails, PM here, slack PM, everything. It is sonm own fault this came public, and it is their own fault the BS they are writing. Anyone would have said "ok we got 42 million, refund some 50,000 to these guys and shut it". Anyway, you guys are not fools and can see what's going on. That is/was my main goal in repeating ad nausea all this shit. I lost hope in having any solution long ago, so the purpose is call out the BS. I will leave it as it is for now, since I see people are upset but giving reason to the situation, so mission accomplished.
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spawny57
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July 09, 2017, 06:30:10 PM |
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@Almeida please give us your adress so we can drop you your 5k coins to leave us in peace ...
Deal: 0x9C9582FB1b6e1e22F4C09F86fDa41681241d590f This will be interesting to see if he puts up. He is just trolling, I'd leave it alone if he gave me 5000 tokens tho. I'm kinda sick of reading your posts, but I understand your feelings. I still think you should atleast deal via PM's here instead of writing all your crypto-life here on this thread. It stresses me to read your 4541 lines long of "give me my 5k tokens !" (shortened version). But I get your rage too. Anyway, good luck, and please, if they respond of course, use PM here. Airing dirty laundry is how you get a response. Look at Poloniex customers for example. Ppl held hostage for 2 months. Gets popular on Reddit, fixed within 2 days. Sure I get that, but when it is mixed with FUD and ICO trash talking (true thing, I'm not saying SONM team is doing great), it hurts the prices, and with his posts, he may have his 5k tokens, but price will fall even further down. LOL. Anyway it's my point of view, you don't need to do your dirty laundry on the topic where potential investors might gets idea from, it will retain them from buying, and price will fall under the 1k mark. Kinda hard to explain it in english, but I hope you get my point.
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YGung
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July 09, 2017, 06:57:31 PM |
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^^^If you like Sonm regardless the price going down short-term is ideal. I'm not so sure all of this is "hurting" the price when alot of things are crashing, plus Sonm just isn't that liquid right now and that likely plays a part.
Only thing I'd really say about Almeida vs Sonm bonus support: I think people overrate dev on this forum and undervalue the importance of good business practices. There's a back and forth of each side not wanting to get taken advantage of. Almeida feels he has a legit case, and Sonm team is probably thinking "we get all these spam e-mails as it is trying to get us for bonuses that are not due". I'm not saying whose right or wrong, but in the huge scope of things 5k tokens is NOTHING for SONM team and it would improve the business image, but I'm not the business.
Regardless, Sonm team, I think it's important you remember that even when Almeida's attacking you as a frustrated customer/investor, you have to keep a mindset of quality customer service in mind. Even if you disagree and want to refute what he says, personal/subliminal shots shouldn't becoming from the business (your) side of the argument. While I wish they wouldn't come from the investor/customer side as often as they do on this forum, at the end of the day that side of the argument kinda has the right to get verbally abrasive.
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dz4505
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July 09, 2017, 07:15:50 PM |
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^^^If you like Sonm regardless the price going down short-term is ideal. I'm not so sure all of this is "hurting" the price when alot of things are crashing, plus Sonm just isn't that liquid right now and that likely plays a part.
Only thing I'd really say about Almeida vs Sonm bonus support: I think people overrate dev on this forum and undervalue the importance of good business practices. There's a back and forth of each side not wanting to get taken advantage of. Almeida feels he has a legit case, and Sonm team is probably thinking "we get all these spam e-mails as it is trying to get us for bonuses that are not due". I'm not saying whose right or wrong, but in the huge scope of things 5k tokens is NOTHING for SONM team and it would improve the business image, but I'm not the business.
Regardless, Sonm team, I think it's important you remember that even when Almeida's attacking you as a frustrated customer/investor, you have to keep a mindset of quality customer service in mind. Even if you disagree and want to refute what he says, personal/subliminal shots shouldn't becoming from the business (your) side of the argument. While I wish they wouldn't come from the investor/customer side as often as they do on this forum, at the end of the day that side of the argument kinda has the right to get verbally abrasive.
You must be new here. I asked sonm_commubity to be more professional and gotten banned for it over at slack. This is as professional as it will get, which is why I want out as soon as I can with minimal loss. Great idea. Shitty team. It's about the people. Learned it the hard way.
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ePesoInitiative
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July 09, 2017, 07:47:52 PM |
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Wait for the bounty dump. Someone has to sell them cheap SNM.
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SilArt
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July 09, 2017, 07:52:22 PM |
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Is it true that there is a ongoing fraud investigation by the russian fbi (Sledkom) and team funds might get frozen?
Read this in the liqui trollbox by some guy claiming to live in moscow and have insider information.
ROFL. Russian fbi is FSB (ФCБ) Nice FUD But there's actually an Investigation Committee (Sledstvenniy Komitet), which sounds just right
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Robertqueen2
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July 09, 2017, 07:53:43 PM |
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Wait for the bounty dump. Someone has to sell them cheap SNM. Many people are waiting for bounty dumpers, while I am waiting for the price to rise up when all dumpers sell their tokens.
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Northa
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July 09, 2017, 08:58:31 PM |
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I think it is going back to ICO price more sooner than your estimated time frame. Tomorrow is the most probably the day with some big news or updates which are caused of this recent positive movements in market too. I will say by next month we should expect it at 10k satoshi at least if not more.
Pretty optimistic assumptions about where sonm will be. Hope u right.
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spawny57
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July 09, 2017, 09:55:25 PM |
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I think it is going back to ICO price more sooner than your estimated time frame. Tomorrow is the most probably the day with some big news or updates which are caused of this recent positive movements in market too. I will say by next month we should expect it at 10k satoshi at least if not more.
Pretty optimistic assumptions about where sonm will be. Hope u right. Yeah, I hope you're right too. Few hours left before this so wanted update ! Let's hope it will be big !
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YGung
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July 09, 2017, 10:25:48 PM |
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^^^If you like Sonm regardless the price going down short-term is ideal. I'm not so sure all of this is "hurting" the price when alot of things are crashing, plus Sonm just isn't that liquid right now and that likely plays a part.
Only thing I'd really say about Almeida vs Sonm bonus support: I think people overrate dev on this forum and undervalue the importance of good business practices. There's a back and forth of each side not wanting to get taken advantage of. Almeida feels he has a legit case, and Sonm team is probably thinking "we get all these spam e-mails as it is trying to get us for bonuses that are not due". I'm not saying whose right or wrong, but in the huge scope of things 5k tokens is NOTHING for SONM team and it would improve the business image, but I'm not the business.
Regardless, Sonm team, I think it's important you remember that even when Almeida's attacking you as a frustrated customer/investor, you have to keep a mindset of quality customer service in mind. Even if you disagree and want to refute what he says, personal/subliminal shots shouldn't becoming from the business (your) side of the argument. While I wish they wouldn't come from the investor/customer side as often as they do on this forum, at the end of the day that side of the argument kinda has the right to get verbally abrasive.
You must be new here. I asked sonm_commubity to be more professional and gotten banned for it over at slack. This is as professional as it will get, which is why I want out as soon as I can with minimal loss. Great idea. Shitty team. It's about the people. Learned it the hard way. lol, yeah that's crazy
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vuvanle120
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July 09, 2017, 11:50:48 PM |
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^^^If you like Sonm regardless the price going down short-term is ideal. I'm not so sure all of this is "hurting" the price when alot of things are crashing, plus Sonm just isn't that liquid right now and that likely plays a part.
Only thing I'd really say about Almeida vs Sonm bonus support: I think people overrate dev on this forum and undervalue the importance of good business practices. There's a back and forth of each side not wanting to get taken advantage of. Almeida feels he has a legit case, and Sonm team is probably thinking "we get all these spam e-mails as it is trying to get us for bonuses that are not due". I'm not saying whose right or wrong, but in the huge scope of things 5k tokens is NOTHING for SONM team and it would improve the business image, but I'm not the business.
Regardless, Sonm team, I think it's important you remember that even when Almeida's attacking you as a frustrated customer/investor, you have to keep a mindset of quality customer service in mind. Even if you disagree and want to refute what he says, personal/subliminal shots shouldn't becoming from the business (your) side of the argument. While I wish they wouldn't come from the investor/customer side as often as they do on this forum, at the end of the day that side of the argument kinda has the right to get verbally abrasive.
You must be new here. I asked sonm_commubity to be more professional and gotten banned for it over at slack. This is as professional as it will get, which is why I want out as soon as I can with minimal loss. Great idea. Shitty team. It's about the people. Learned it the hard way. lol, yeah that's crazy I hope all these noise will die down when the team a killer product. It's too early to tell.
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Entei
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July 10, 2017, 04:34:10 AM |
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Not very interesting those problems that are happening with SONM, the competition, for sure will be thanking! Some great ICO, in the past have suffered with problems too, I hope that everything is solved!
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puvanb
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July 10, 2017, 06:23:34 AM |
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we will see what the announcement is all about very soon. Plus waiting for another round of cheap sonm when bounty is paid.
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thepo1m
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July 10, 2017, 07:41:20 AM |
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Wait for the bounty dump. Someone has to sell them cheap SNM. I surely waiting for the bounty distribution, unless the SOnm.io developers decided to support the price, it will definitely suffer significant dump in price. I just hope my order will be filled at the price range of 1200sat-1500sat
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miramare
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July 10, 2017, 07:43:46 AM |
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Wait for the bounty dump. Someone has to sell them cheap SNM. Far cheaper than ICO price. SNM will be a huge joke.
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Frankie HODL
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July 10, 2017, 08:52:34 AM |
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Wait for the bounty dump. Someone has to sell them cheap SNM. Far cheaper than ICO price. SNM will be a huge joke. Only time will tell.
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pumz
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July 10, 2017, 09:01:22 AM |
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Wait for the bounty dump. Someone has to sell them cheap SNM. Far cheaper than ICO price. SNM will be a huge joke. Don't judge this so quickly just look at other projects which went under ICO prices. I really don't want to mention their names in thread of this but people know about what I am talking. Today we will be able to get some updates too. Unfortunately I don't have much money else was keep buying more at these price of peanuts.
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housebtc
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July 10, 2017, 09:06:00 AM |
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Wait for the bounty dump. Someone has to sell them cheap SNM. Far cheaper than ICO price. SNM will be a huge joke. I remember when Golem was selling below 1000sat some months ago, those that sold their tokens would have missed out on one of the best performing project this year. SONM.io is a solid project, I just hope the team will stick to their timeline
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