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April 27, 2017, 02:52:23 PM
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I agree with the death penalty, but not all violations must end with the death penalty. I could agree with the rules of the death penalty for the killers. When someone dared to end the life of another person, he must also be prepared to accept the same. The death penalty for thieves also, but the death penalty is not the primary selection. The death penalty for thieves should be based on how much amount he stole. If you really make the victim became very miserable, then I agree. And the main thing is the criminals, who steal state money and make people destitute, should be put to death.
Yes,for very cruel acts, death penalty would be the correct punishment.Arresting a murderer and keeping him in jail for his life time will not at all be a punishment.But in some countries,a murderer is given 14 years of imprisonment and then he is released.These soft punishments will not bring the crime ratio down.

This is an action given to the offender to at least provide a deterrent effect on the offender and give effect to fear for everyone. Fear here means that people are afraid to commit crimes. For example, cutting off hands for the perpetrators of theft. It is strongly believed to have a deterrent effect on the offender. Death sentence for murderers, so that people are afraid to kill others.
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April 27, 2017, 03:30:33 PM
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If there is any crime like death penalty, death should be punishable for it, But in the case of innocent person I have a view on this
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April 27, 2017, 03:40:12 PM
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I agree with the death penalty, but not all violations must end with the death penalty. I could agree with the rules of the death penalty for the killers. When someone dared to end the life of another person, he must also be prepared to accept the same. The death penalty for thieves also, but the death penalty is not the primary selection. The death penalty for thieves should be based on how much amount he stole. If you really make the victim became very miserable, then I agree. And the main thing is the criminals, who steal state money and make people destitute, should be put to death.
Yes,for very cruel acts, death penalty would be the correct punishment.Arresting a murderer and keeping him in jail for his life time will not at all be a punishment.But in some countries,a murderer is given 14 years of imprisonment and then he is released.These soft punishments will not bring the crime ratio down.

This is an action given to the offender to at least provide a deterrent effect on the offender and give effect to fear for everyone. Fear here means that people are afraid to commit crimes. For example, cutting off hands for the perpetrators of theft. It is strongly believed to have a deterrent effect on the offender. Death sentence for murderers, so that people are afraid to kill others.

Yes, it will be correct. Just need to add something else that the rapists also need to cut something Smiley
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April 27, 2017, 09:46:29 PM
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I agree with the death penalty, but not all violations must end with the death penalty. I could agree with the rules of the death penalty for the killers. When someone dared to end the life of another person, he must also be prepared to accept the same. The death penalty for thieves also, but the death penalty is not the primary selection. The death penalty for thieves should be based on how much amount he stole. If you really make the victim became very miserable, then I agree. And the main thing is the criminals, who steal state money and make people destitute, should be put to death.
Yes,for very cruel acts, death penalty would be the correct punishment.Arresting a murderer and keeping him in jail for his life time will not at all be a punishment.But in some countries,a murderer is given 14 years of imprisonment and then he is released.These soft punishments will not bring the crime ratio down.

This is an action given to the offender to at least provide a deterrent effect on the offender and give effect to fear for everyone. Fear here means that people are afraid to commit crimes. For example, cutting off hands for the perpetrators of theft. It is strongly believed to have a deterrent effect on the offender. Death sentence for murderers, so that people are afraid to kill others.

Yes, it will be correct. Just need to add something else that the rapists also need to cut something Smiley
I think that it is impossible to apply the death penalty to rapists. It seems to me that they need to use chemical castration. It is also an effective method. Any punishment should be adequate.
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April 28, 2017, 12:52:55 AM
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If, for example, my child was raped and killed (hope that'll never happen), I wouldn't want to pray, I'd want justice, I'd want to be an executioner.

That's just because you confuse revenge and justice.

And so does nearly everyone in this thread as it seems...

And who should decide how justice is served? Are you the entitled one, sir? It is a fact, that postmodern western society puts more emphasis on criminals "rights", than protecting their victims and their families. Media makes killers into stars, detailing to degenerate viewers every detail of their "tormented" lives, while their victims are quickly and almost mockingly forgotten with a couple of tear inducing photos. Killers are then offered essentially free (aka tax payer paid) housing, education, health care and counseling with families of victims expected to "forgive" and help pay the bill.

Indeed, in one thing you are right. People are longing for retribution, because justice was and is systematically denied to them. Scolding them even, when they stand up for themselves and call foul play.

Only positive thing I see about all of this - with debts growing to stratosphere while population is slowly aging and dying out, it is clear day by day, that this "modern" and "humanist" approach is dead end that will eventually consume itself. Whoever comes after you, will have to respect law of thermodynamics again.

Rights and responsiblities shall be in strict balance or the system fails.
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April 28, 2017, 01:12:00 AM
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The death penalty is sometimes necessary. Criminals wont think about how bad prison is because they don't have enough sense to think about how bad prison can be but if they know that they could die because of their crimes, they might just reconsider. It also serves to stop the people that won't stop no matter what you tell them and keep them from wasting tax payers money to keep them locked up and never integrating with real society. Now that being said, taking another persons live is a serious matter and all humans deserve some degree of respect. If someone must die then it must be a quick death and one that will hopefully not hurt the person.
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April 28, 2017, 10:42:05 AM
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If, for example, my child was raped and killed (hope that'll never happen), I wouldn't want to pray, I'd want justice, I'd want to be an executioner.

That's just because you confuse revenge and justice.

And so does nearly everyone in this thread as it seems...

And who should decide how justice is served? Are you the entitled one, sir?
Not more or less than you. The question is then does more than half the population think about the notion of justice.
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It is a fact, that postmodern western society puts more emphasis on criminals "rights", than protecting their victims and their families. Media makes killers into stars, detailing to degenerate viewers every detail of their "tormented" lives, while their victims are quickly and almost mockingly forgotten with a couple of tear inducing photos. Killers are then offered essentially free (aka tax payer paid) housing, education, health care and counseling with families of victims expected to "forgive" and help pay the bill.
False and if you think that is true you're stupid or wrongly informed.
Criminals "rights" are important essentially because you can never be sure of how guilty someone is. Even when you think you have all the proofs you want doubt always exists, and that's why countries like USA kill 5% of innocent people with death penalty.

For the rest if you believe that prison is just free housing, please go to prison and see how you like it.
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Indeed, in one thing you are right. People are longing for retribution, because justice was and is systematically denied to them. Scolding them even, when they stand up for themselves and call foul play.
Simply because people want revenge which means they want the same or worse to be done to the criminal than what he did.
Do you think it's a good idea of justice?
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Only positive thing I see about all of this - with debts growing to stratosphere while population is slowly aging and dying out, it is clear day by day, that this "modern" and "humanist" approach is dead end that will eventually consume itself. Whoever comes after you, will have to respect law of thermodynamics again.

Rights and responsiblities shall be in strict balance or the system fails.
That's simply because you have a very old and closed mind.

Let's imagine a situation shall we?

Mr A killed someone while robbing him.
Current justice system: Mr A will serve about 15 years of prison, go out without a job or but full of hop and statistics show that only 45% of chance that he commits a crime again and 55% chance that he stays honest. result: we have 1 dead, 0.45 criminal and 0.55 honest citizen

Your idea of a justice system: Mr A killed so he must get killed. Result: 2 dead

what's better for the society?

And studies showed that if applying even more "human rights" and "laxist justice" as you say, which means trying to understand why the personn commited the crime and then adapt the punishment in order to prevent the crime to be commited again, we reach around 20% of recidivism.

But sure, Talion law was always the best  Roll Eyes
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April 28, 2017, 10:43:20 AM
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Criminals wont think about how bad prison is because they don't have enough sense to think about how bad prison can be but if they know that they could die because of their crimes, they might just reconsider.

Sure, death penalty is really efficient at preventing crimes.
Proof is that USA definitely has low crime rates! xD
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April 28, 2017, 11:28:31 AM
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Criminals wont think about how bad prison is because they don't have enough sense to think about how bad prison can be but if they know that they could die because of their crimes, they might just reconsider.

Sure, death penalty is really efficient at preventing crimes.
Proof is that USA definitely has low crime rates! xD

The reason for the crime may be anything regardless of the country. And fear of deah penalty might not even be a holdback for the crime but at least we would be sure that this person won't commit crime again and the family of the victim would get satisfaction with justice.
And this is why people don't avenge in modern society, because we have judicial system for this.
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April 28, 2017, 11:38:39 AM
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The death penalty is sometimes necessary. Criminals wont think about how bad prison is because they don't have enough sense to think about how bad prison can be but if they know that they could die because of their crimes, they might just reconsider. It also serves to stop the people that won't stop no matter what you tell them and keep them from wasting tax payers money to keep them locked up and never integrating with real society. Now that being said, taking another persons live is a serious matter and all humans deserve some degree of respect. If someone must die then it must be a quick death and one that will hopefully not hurt the person.

Yes, prison scares a very small number of people, but the death penalty will force many times to think about before committing a crime.
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April 28, 2017, 02:22:01 PM
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We'll i don't support death penalty because its just way too off and gruesome and they are still human beings.
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April 28, 2017, 04:07:11 PM
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Criminals wont think about how bad prison is because they don't have enough sense to think about how bad prison can be but if they know that they could die because of their crimes, they might just reconsider.

Sure, death penalty is really efficient at preventing crimes.
Proof is that USA definitely has low crime rates! xD

The reason for the crime may be anything regardless of the country. And fear of deah penalty might not even be a holdback for the crime but at least we would be sure that this person won't commit crime again
Yeah but you can get a perfect innocent. Even the best system is doomed to fail so you WILL kill innocents.
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and the family of the victim would get satisfaction with justice.
No they will have the satisfaction of REVENGE. Not the same thing.
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And this is why people don't avenge in modern society, because we have judicial system for this.
Yeah but with your idea of juridical system then justice will be the same as revenge...
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April 28, 2017, 04:13:17 PM
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We'll i don't support death penalty because its just way too off and gruesome and they are still human beings.

Right. It will be too easy a way to get rid of suffering for a crime. It is necessary to force people to suffer for their crimes in a humane way.
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April 28, 2017, 04:41:37 PM
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Death penalty can be seen as the best inhuman solution if you are seeking punishment on the offender and will also be the harshest of punishments

any human being can receive for whatever crimes(s) committed
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April 29, 2017, 06:39:18 AM
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Death penalty can be seen as the best inhuman solution if you are seeking punishment on the offender and will also be the harshest of punishments

any human being can receive for whatever crimes(s) committed
I believe that human life is the greatest value on earth, Therefore I think that it is impossible to deprive a life of even a criminal. Each person should be given a chance to a second normal life and every chance should be fully received.
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April 29, 2017, 12:00:59 PM
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I think that death penalty is good and only fair in some cases. There need to be some severe penalties for some crimes that are committed. As a matter of fact i would support more severe penalties for all crimes, that way crime would drop to lowest percent. But everything i said would not function without good Justice department, and that could be a real problem.
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April 29, 2017, 12:04:32 PM
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I think that death penalty is good and only fair in some cases. There need to be some severe penalties for some crimes that are committed. As a matter of fact i would support more severe penalties for all crimes, that way crime would drop to lowest percent. But everything i said would not function without good Justice department, and that could be a real problem.
It would be impossible to ensure that justice would be fair for every person accused of a crime, therefore it would be inevitable that many people would be killed despite being innocent.

This already happens and it is unacceptable.
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April 29, 2017, 12:34:51 PM
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I believe that human life is the greatest value on earth, Therefore I think that it is impossible to deprive a life of even a criminal. Each person should be given a chance to a second normal life and every chance should be fully received.

Criminals don't deserve a second chance, when the victims can't have one. Also, most of the hardened criminals can't be rehabilitated despite whatever the efforts the government and the authorities do.

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April 29, 2017, 04:59:40 PM
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I agree with the death penalty, but not all violations must end with the death penalty. I could agree with the rules of the death penalty for the killers. When someone dared to end the life of another person, he must also be prepared to accept the same. The death penalty for thieves also, but the death penalty is not the primary selection. The death penalty for thieves should be based on how much amount he stole. If you really make the victim became very miserable, then I agree. And the main thing is the criminals, who steal state money and make people destitute, should be put to death.
Yes,for very cruel acts, death penalty would be the correct punishment.Arresting a murderer and keeping him in jail for his life time will not at all be a punishment.But in some countries,a murderer is given 14 years of imprisonment and then he is released.These soft punishments will not bring the crime ratio down.
Here in my country, before we had death penalty then when new administration  came up they removed death penalty. After a decades past our new administration now in my country are pursuing and requesting to get back the death penalty so that any murderers, drug lords, rapist, or any crimes that people did will be given as punishment like this.
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April 29, 2017, 05:11:57 PM
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I believe that human life is the greatest value on earth, Therefore I think that it is impossible to deprive a life of even a criminal. Each person should be given a chance to a second normal life and every chance should be fully received.

Criminals don't deserve a second chance, when the victims can't have one. Also, most of the hardened criminals can't be rehabilitated despite whatever the efforts the government and the authorities do.
Sad to say but I think you're right. Hardened criminals have more chance of committing more crimes that actually changing for the better. We may very well be killing off a lot of innocent people if men like these are left roaming because let's face it, if an evil person has deep connections in the government, it would be easy to bribe their way out. But justice has to be fair and meted to everyone

 
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