How do you feel about the death penalty?

[TheCoinGrabber]

In my country, which is classified as a third world country, crimes are being perpetrated left and right. Some captured criminals are under the influence of illegal drugs/liquor when they committed the crime, some claim that they steal or committed such crime because of poverty or its they only option left for them to feed their family. However, whatever their reasons are, death penalty should be  imposed to those recidivist and to heavy crimes such as murder, rape, etc.

Violent crime can never be justified saying that the perpetrators are poor. There billions of poor people out there. Are all of them murderers, rapists and goons? I don't think so. Violence is embedded in the genes of certain people. They will indulge in violence, no matter whatever be their financial status. So it is wrong to blame crime on poverty.

I would probably not immediately jump and blame it at genes, though there are sources pointing to epigenetics. Environment do play a part. But you are correct, poverty is no excuse. Some people are just lazier and more willing to game the system, to be the parasites in it.

Death penalty shouldn't be handed out easily but must remain an option for heinous crimes like what you have mentioned, which cannot be justified whatever reasoning defense may come up with. I agree with threatening repeat-offenders with it, might reduce recidivism rate.

[Okurkabinladin]

"[W]e reserve the death penalty in the United States for the most heinous murders and the most brutal and conscienceless murderers. This is not, as some critics argue, a kind of state-run lottery that randomly chooses an unlucky few for the ultimate penalty from among all those convicted of murder. Rather, the capital punishment system is a filter that selects the worst of the worst...

Put another way, to sentence killers like those described above to less than death would fail to do justice because the penalty – presumably a long period in prison – would be grossly disproportionate to the heinousness of the crime. Prosecutors, jurors, and the loved ones of murder victims understand this essential point...

Perhaps most importantly, in its supreme gravity it [the death penalty] promotes belief in and respect for the majesty of the moral order and for the system of human law that both derives from and supports that moral order."

Edward Feser, PhD
Associate Professor of Philosophy at Pasadena City College
Joseph M. Bessette, PhD
Alice Tweed Tuohy Professor of Government and Ethics at Claremont McKenna College
"Why the Death Penalty Is Still Necessary,"
catholicworldreport.com
July 21, 2016

[AlphaSun]

The death penalty should be the only punishment for crimes involving murder. The only problem is not just sentences, but probably easier to get rid of judicial errors than to help the offender to escape just punishment.

Probably, but if you ask me, death penalty should be used for cold blooded killings, mass killings,... basically for those with life sentences, because they'll be rotting in that prison for life, living off of tax payers money. Also, those who are arrested for fiighting, destruction of property, football hooligans in my country,... should be just sent to the coal mines and make them dig for coal for a few years every day of the week. Unleast they'll save some money like that.

Death is not the answer to the problems, it's just that it's hard to stop someone who has already been to the dark side and it's not going to be helpful to the world and it feels like it's okay to kill them, but we shouldn't be like that, it's not the answer.

I agree with you. It is certainly not the answer to give the right to corrupt and often incompetent lawyers and emotional jurors the right to decide who lives and who dies! 

How can any freedom loving person think that it is ok for the government to kill people?

The US legal system sure has some serious problems...

[Kp4everK]

I want the death penalty to be renewed, because the killers should not live. Also it is necessary to toughen penalties for the rapists.

[Paid Piper]

I want the death penalty to be renewed, because the killers should not live. Also it is necessary to toughen penalties for the rapists.

that is right, our religion also have the  death penalty on certain cases, and i think it is really the right of the person who is killed to take hs revenge. but his insisters forgive the killer then he should be set free.

[Xester]

I want the death penalty to be renewed, because the killers should not live. Also it is necessary to toughen penalties for the rapists.

that is right, our religion also have the  death penalty on certain cases, and i think it is really the right of the person who is killed to take hs revenge. but his insisters forgive the killer then he should be set free.

Well yes forgive them but still pursue the penalty imposed on them.  And those who says no for this punishment maybe they should adopt all those criminals and let live on their houses.  They knew from the start that what they have done is wrong but due to their evil plans and selfish insight they do such henious crime.

[audaciousbeing]

Death penalty from the way I see it is just an easy way out for someone who has committed a grievous crime against the state either by killing someone else or treason. The reason for that is because when he is killed, it would not bring the person he killed back to life neither will he have enough time to blame and judge himself for the wrong doing he committed which is the most important punishment to be given to anybody. So, it should be abolished and replaced with life in prison without an option for parole under any circumstances.

[matchi2011]

Death penalty from the way I see it is just an easy way out for someone who has committed a grievous crime against the state either by killing someone else or treason. The reason for that is because when he is killed, it would not bring the person he killed back to life neither will he have enough time to blame and judge himself for the wrong doing he committed which is the most important punishment to be given to anybody. So, it should be abolished and replaced with life in prison without an option for parole under any circumstances.

I agree to a certain point. Though some people commit crimes that ate just too inhumane for redemption. These people neither regret not would feel remorse about what they did and would repeat what they've done in a whim. I understand that people need to be sorry for their crimes and death penalty would be a bit too harsh but sometimes we need to make a lesson out of someone to make people respect the law. Though before executing an accused, they have to be convicted first and made sure that they are not innocent without doubt

[Love!]

My argument is very simple. In almost all the nations where the death penalty was recently abolished, we have witnessed a sharp upswing in the crime rate. Therefore, IMO, the death penalty must be there to deter these sort of crimes.

I don't think it's the death penalty per se that's the deterrent. I think it's more the prevailing attitude of particular societies and their lawmakers. If they have something like the death penalty, they are perceived as tough and no-nonsense. If they don't have it, they look passive. 

[Sithara007]

My argument is very simple. In almost all the nations where the death penalty was recently abolished, we have witnessed a sharp upswing in the crime rate. Therefore, IMO, the death penalty must be there to deter these sort of crimes.

I don't think it's the death penalty per se that's the deterrent. I think it's more the prevailing attitude of particular societies and their lawmakers. If they have something like the death penalty, they are perceived as tough and no-nonsense. If they don't have it, they look passive. 

That may be one of the reasons. For example, Sweden is having one of the highest rape rates in the world, fueled by the lax punishments given to the perpetrators. Most of the time, the rapists avoid jail time by just paying a monetary fine, or doing community service.

[IamHigh]

Death penalty from the way I see it is just an easy way out for someone who has committed a grievous crime against the state either by killing someone else or treason. The reason for that is because when he is killed, it would not bring the person he killed back to life neither will he have enough time to blame and judge himself for the wrong doing he committed which is the most important punishment to be given to anybody. So, it should be abolished and replaced with life in prison without an option for parole under any circumstances.

I agree to a certain point. Though some people commit crimes that ate just too inhumane for redemption. These people neither regret not would feel remorse about what they did and would repeat what they've done in a whim. I understand that people need to be sorry for their crimes and death penalty would be a bit too harsh but sometimes we need to make a lesson out of someone to make people respect the law. Though before executing an accused, they have to be convicted first and made sure that they are not innocent without doubt

Death penalty is a terrifying thing for the possible heavy criminals. It does not seem human-friendly, which is correct, but, on the other hand, it's neccessary.

[Okurkabinladin]

The death penalty should be the only punishment for crimes involving murder. The only problem is not just sentences, but probably easier to get rid of judicial errors than to help the offender to escape just punishment.

Probably, but if you ask me, death penalty should be used for cold blooded killings, mass killings,... basically for those with life sentences, because they'll be rotting in that prison for life, living off of tax payers money. Also, those who are arrested for fiighting, destruction of property, football hooligans in my country,... should be just sent to the coal mines and make them dig for coal for a few years every day of the week. Unleast they'll save some money like that.

Death is not the answer to the problems, it's just that it's hard to stop someone who has already been to the dark side and it's not going to be helpful to the world and it feels like it's okay to kill them, but we shouldn't be like that, it's not the answer.

I agree with you. It is certainly not the answer to give the right to corrupt and often incompetent lawyers and emotional jurors the right to decide who lives and who dies! 

How can any freedom loving person think that it is ok for the government to kill people?

The US legal system sure has some serious problems...

And how its okay for any "freedom loving" person to think, that it is his job to absolve a murderer of what he did?

Only your victim and God can do that. If you killed you victim, then alas you will have to talk with God. Death penalty is punishment for crimes against nature - such as killing other human beings in cold blood.

[jems]

I want the death penalty to be renewed, because the killers should not live. Also it is necessary to toughen penalties for the rapists.

I agree with the death penalty, but not all violations must end with the death penalty. I could agree with the rules of the death penalty for the killers. When someone dared to end the life of another person, he must also be prepared to accept the same. The death penalty for thieves also, but the death penalty is not the primary selection. The death penalty for thieves should be based on how much amount he stole. If you really make the victim became very miserable, then I agree. And the main thing is the criminals, who steal state money and make people destitute, should be put to death.

i agree also in death penalty to reduce the number of victim in rape and killing like here in Philippines the government also debate about death penalty but  not continues to push and enforce the law because of other stupid people that against in law.

[Xester]

I want the death penalty to be renewed, because the killers should not live. Also it is necessary to toughen penalties for the rapists.

I agree with the death penalty, but not all violations must end with the death penalty. I could agree with the rules of the death penalty for the killers. When someone dared to end the life of another person, he must also be prepared to accept the same. The death penalty for thieves also, but the death penalty is not the primary selection. The death penalty for thieves should be based on how much amount he stole. If you really make the victim became very miserable, then I agree. And the main thing is the criminals, who steal state money and make people destitute, should be put to death.

i agree also in death penalty to reduce the number of victim in rape and killing like here in Philippines the government also debate about death penalty but  not continues to push and enforce the law because of other stupid people that against in law.

Same sentiments I have right now.  These people who raped, killed, murdered innocent people should be first on the list.  I do not know why the church continue to intervene with the government.  Also this Commission on Human Rights who continuously helping the "rights" of the criminals but not the rights of the victims.  Wish that the government can make this death penalty possible.

[tikalbong]

Death penalty for me is one good solution to to some heinous crime but first, a certain country must fix the judicial system because if not, there will always be innocent people who will be sentenced to death. A country that has this kind of punishment, must have a good justice system.

[Nikola95]

I support the death penalty. Any liberal laws lead to more crimes. Migrant crisis in Europe also proves it. Only the presence of weapons among the population is holding back a huge amount of crime in the United States. Here you have all the liberalism.

I don't believe that death penalty is lowering amount of crimes. And also, biggest punishment for someone is prison. Our problem is that someone who committed a crime  get only few years imprisonment. Of cource it depends what crime it is, but people mostly get less then they deserve. Even with that they get out early with pardon.

[Palmerson]

I support the death penalty. Any liberal laws lead to more crimes. Migrant crisis in Europe also proves it. Only the presence of weapons among the population is holding back a huge amount of crime in the United States. Here you have all the liberalism.

I don't believe that death penalty is lowering amount of crimes. And also, biggest punishment for someone is prison. Our problem is that someone who committed a crime  get only few years imprisonment. Of cource it depends what crime it is, but people mostly get less then they deserve. Even with that they get out early with pardon.

That is why I am advocating that every person can protect themselves with weapons. If the state can't punish criminals, then maybe people will start to shoot them. Then the death penalty is not required. Every crime they will last.

[Turbanshee]

Seriously we went from hanging Horse Thieves to giving people who commit armed robbery 5-10 years in prison.



If they are juveniles they might even get less depending on the district. Some Judges have it set in their mind that blacks are victims of society and refuse to ruin a childs life over what they view as "one mistake".





It is insane to to me that the intent hardly matters. If you fire a weapon with the intent to kill but don't end up killing you get a more lenient sentencing (often). Attempted Murder vs Murder.







I don't really see the difference as far as social order is concerned.

[hawthelegend]

Death penalty from the way I see it is just an easy way out for someone who has committed a grievous crime against the state either by killing someone else or treason. The reason for that is because when he is killed, it would not bring the person he killed back to life neither will he have enough time to blame and judge himself for the wrong doing he committed which is the most important punishment to be given to anybody. So, it should be abolished and replaced with life in prison without an option for parole under any circumstances.

You have a great point there my friend, but you see, it's easy to say such as what you have said in your post when you haven't experienced losing someone with murder. You see, i used to believe the same as you, but when it happened to my best friend, whom i treated as my only brother, it was really devastating on my part. It killed me inside. I couldn't care any less if he suffers a lot or not, i just want to see him sitting on that electric chair shaking. And savor every moment till he dies.

[kuyaJ]

Im glad about Death penalty, people who scared about death penalty maybe he/she had a bad business or maybe he/she had a crime before. But sometimes people who are poor or who haven't any amount of money that can buy freedom. Some are innocent being died because he/she haven't money.