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November 05, 2014, 07:57:24 PM
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I would like to donate for the citadel 50.000 and get one of the lots L1-L54 Smiley

If I am allowed to hold some land of course!

Select one! Take the best one Smiley

I like L7!

Also how much would a library cost to have in our city?

Library in these times is generally part of a larger establishment. For example Royal Palace has a private library, as well as Marquess' Palace. Monero info center holds some books. The coming Noble Palace has a library in its plan. The Town Hall (when it is built), is planned to have a public library.

A small building eg 10x10 with high arching and 64 sqm inner area, would cost about 25-35 million to build so as to contain some books also.

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November 07, 2014, 09:10:02 AM
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Is there any change to the planned schedule for the web viewable version of the city?

Currently no. I will have a meeting any hour now. The web version is mostly spexed, and will incorporate the basics of the databases, the administrative calculations, plus have the following user functionality:

- Character screen. View characters.
- Lot screen. See facade and stats of buildings.
- Main City Screen. Browse the city and see the map. Click into any space for getting to Lot screen.
- Room(Trollbox) Screen.

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November 10, 2014, 06:28:54 PM
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Please note that the gold and land auctions (link from the OP) are closing in 1:30 hours.

Unbelievable bargains to be had!

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November 19, 2014, 12:58:15 AM
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His Majesty is well aware that the land alone is worth more than the whole corporation according to this IPO. However, according to the original agreement, the Noble Palace is a place where even intrigue against His Majesty must be allowed, to have a safety valve for improper feelings. We must reaffirm our decline to participate this great project.

- G12 was recently sold for 120 mil/q, F7 for 125/q, and you can see for yourself that they are not at the center of the map as A1 is.

- Same is happening as with Grand Hotel, which is already trading 55% over IPO price, even after 10% dividends.

- We must hurry with the department of Economics, so that the royal ranting may be moved there, and away from the thread  Cheesy

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November 19, 2014, 04:03:09 PM
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Master Saddam has grown weary during the design phase of his 6 quadrat estate. The plans would best be finished in solitude, rather than the jovial atmosphere of the Grail and Quail.

Your Majesty, I hereby request a land grant at 1-N-D9 in order to rest and reside in the meantime while my palace is designed and built.

Done.

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November 19, 2014, 04:07:49 PM
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His Majesty is quite amused that the Noble Palace is collecting money from the commoners  Roll Eyes

There is the Grand Hotel, with rooms of every size from 8 to 126 sqm, most tastefully finished, (suffering from being too big into our small town and the situation is not necessarily getting easier with the N.P.),

THIS is the place where the industrious commoners should direct their attention. Both in inviting their friends, and in buying the shares if they so wish.

Shame on everyone for even considering that commoners be allowed in the Noble Palace. The Royal Charter was originally that even the junior nobles would be excluded as well

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November 19, 2014, 09:19:27 PM
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Is it built yet? You needs the admin rights activated, supposedly? Smiley

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November 20, 2014, 09:28:56 AM
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There is a checksum error in T_MON.

Should not be. Do not EVER leave the sheet without checking that the entries are completed, and the checksum is zero. And correct this one IMMEDIATELY. If you do not know how, ask me.

Obviously at present no other transactions can be made.

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November 21, 2014, 07:52:20 PM
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Weekend special arrangements

I am (seemingly first time since inception) away for a full day, or actually two. This period starts in about 4 hours and I will be back on Monday morning GMT, with a possibility for a short session previous night.

This means that we will reach 1486 early in about 4 hours.
1488 happens only Sunday night or Monday morning.
1490 will be the year for the weekly promotions and the services pool adjustments. These will happen once they are ready, probably about 2-4 PM Monday.
1492 will be reached normal time, only after midnight after Monday GMT, or likely the next morning.

All the admins should get their rights to edit databases now. And then get help from Roopatra before they edit anything, since the risk to mess up badly is very real, the databases are not designed to be handled by multiple people, but also game is so big that one person cannot do all the work Smiley

Service pool payouts

To find out how the eateries are doing, we have made the following change: taverns and restaurants now have uniform quality ranking and uniform price ranking.
$ - one meal brings 1,000 m margin (price - variable cost)
$$ - one meal brings 2,000 m margin (price - variable cost)
$$$ - one meal brings 4,000 m margin (price - variable cost)
$$$$ - one meal brings 8,000 m margin (price - variable cost)
$$$$$ - one meal brings 16,000 m margin (price - variable cost).

 Tongue - normal food and service
 Smiley - good food and service
 Smiley Smiley - very good food and service
 Smiley Smiley Smiley - exceptionally good food and service
 Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley - not awarded to any place yet.

I am sure tavern owners would all like to say that their place has the best food and service. But objective criteria are used instead:
- number and pay level of chefs
- number (and pay level) of waitresses
- age (some places get the reputation, others don't)
- Player testimony.

So like last time, please list the 3 places where you most frequent and why (Obviously the $ places are not even intended for us the players, rather they are for our servants). Tavern owners please tell corrections to the price levels of your eateries.

It is too late to hire more staff for this round. And firing staff is totally prohibited anyway so you should not hire too many  Smiley

Also please tell where the city centre now resides (quadrat-level accuracy if possible). This is an important input to tourist income.

One building can now be nominated Most Esteemed, for extra tourist income. Please vote among the following:
- Obelisk
- Cathedral
- Royal Palace
- Town Hall.

(The other Esteemed buildings: Grand Hotel, Noble Palace and Citadel, are deemed too young to have a chance of becoming Most Esteemed yet.)

The city has 2 great hotels: Noble Palace (though it is not a normal hotel but anyway) and Grand Hotel. Which one would you recommend for a privileged visitor?

Midprice options are Monero House Hotel, Smooth's Hotel in G12, Grail and Quail, and Priory House Hotel in d'Armagnac haw. Which of these is your choice for a cheaper stay?

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November 27, 2014, 07:31:04 PM
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Gold Auction ends in 1:30 hours and gold is (for the last time) offered for 0.08  Shocked Shocked

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The votes cast after deadline do not count, and I have scheduled my time such that the results should be out already! Lots of things to do in ~3 short hours before freeze!

EDIT: MY BAD. Had left accidentally one yellow cell when I though they were all green... too many things...  Tongue Roll Eyes

Roopatra: T_MON is now available for addition of house costs.

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December 02, 2014, 11:36:54 AM
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The Dutch auction land prices are just lowered, pick yours!

Year is now 1504 and will soon turn to 1506.

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December 02, 2014, 04:54:16 PM
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Sorry I might have missed something, I don't understand how much the LDC are worth and how to use them.

Those are worth 10,000,000 each and you can use them as payments for land currently forsale by the town in the new area.

They will be used automatically, just remember to buy any land from Town sales before 1550!

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December 02, 2014, 06:06:50 PM
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Founding of The Hypothecary Bank in CryptoTown
Marquess Joseph subscribes 30 stocks and 30 million worth of Series A bonds.
Asenath Subscribes to 10 stocks and 10 million worth of series A bonds.

Dear Lord Marquess and Asenath,

We will have to point you to the secondary market, since this IPO (despite its commendable size of 2 billion) was fully subscribed in a few hours.

Secondary market is opening in a few hours.

Also Joseph has been mentioning his marquessly bad game finances. In fact the servants could easily be supported with the current income from being a Marquess alone, it is the overdraft interest that is taking its toll yearly, and the remedy is to deposit more money or sell some ingame possessions. (The reason for the bad overdraft is partly that other Nobles have been selling their Noble Palace shares to the Marquess.)

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December 03, 2014, 04:31:34 AM
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The Long Bond current bids:

2 @ 0.30  Asenath
1 @ 0.26  iluvbitcoins
2 @ 0.25  Earl Riccardo

If no more bids come, Long bond pays back 400%.


Now we start to consider if the time is ripe for a long bond offering. Some background.

The 50-year bond is 25 real-days, so if it could be renewed (which is likely possible), it matures 14.6 times per year. 1.15^14.6 = 7.69. Therefore the real-annualized return on the Series A bond is 669%. It is possible because the game is in such an early stage that the assets bought with the money can appreciate quickly (Jacket's recent sale of land in N, netted him 689% in 18 days, which is much less than a year, and he invested the profits in more land).

But it does not make much sense to pay back 8 times the amount in one year. In this case it would be better to invest the money in the game yourself. The economic rationale for interest rate is composed of:
- opportunity cost for money;
- risk of not getting back the amount promised.
- (in addition comes the actuarial cost of managing stuff, for this reason the large banks cannot be bothered to corner CryptoEconomy just yet)

XMR's opportunity cost is zero, since it does not have any other venues that offer keeping your money in XMR, still receiving interest on it.

Risk of not getting back is composed of bank failure and game failure, compounded over a year.

- The bank may be too big to fail, although as the Professor of Economics we staunchly deny the willingness to interfere with free markets, as King we care for the townspeople. In any case the bank is not especially prone to fail, because the failure would cause ripple effects in land markets etc.
- The game has many reasons and opportunities to fail, and the probabilities everyone must assess himself. Once the long bond markets work, then the interest rate tells (roughly) what is the probability that the market gives for the game's continued existence over one year.

So much said, the Long bond is a debt instrument whose maturity is 365 real-days. Its face value is 100 million, and the price is quoted as continuously compounded interest rate until maturity, or the market value (these two are the same thing because knowing one, you can calculate the other).

(now the rates are given as daily, instead of "game-APR", since the length of the game-year changes during the maturity of the bond)
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Daily %	Real-APR%	Pay	Get back
1,27 % 9900 % 1 100
1,08 % 4900 % 2 100
0,82 % 1900 % 5 100
0,63 % 900 % 10 100
0,52 % 567 % 15 100
0,44 % 400 % 20 100
0,38 % 300 % 25 100
0,33 % 233 % 30 100
0,29 % 186 % 35 100
0,25 % 150 % 40 100
0,19 % 100 % 50 100
0,14 % 67 % 60 100
0,10 % 43 % 70 100
0,06 % 25 % 80 100
0,03 % 11 % 90 100

Several game ventures can pay back more than 1.27% daily currently. I am sure many would like to invest in a bond that cleanly pays back 100 times the original investment - but that is not possible, someone will overbid you  Cheesy To generate value in the economy, the playing must be fun, and the high returns are just a result of generating value. The King is not a believer in generating value by adding numbers to databases, but adding colored squares does qualify.

To get the Long Bond, the barometer of the health of the economy and trustworthiness of the continuation of the game, started, the Hypothecary Bank of CryptoTown is issuing 5 units of long bond, 100 million payback value each.

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SERIES 1 LONG BOND

The Hypothecary Bank of CryptoTown, pays to the presenter of this parchment, on the day and year that does correspond to the day of 2015-12-2 in the land of Humans and their Lord, 100,000,000 moneretos.

His Majesty The King bids 20,000,000 per unit, for a nice 5-fold payback if the game still exists after a year Smiley It is possible to bid for 1-5 units and auction closes in 24 hours.

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The Long Bond current bids:

2 @ 0.30  Asenath
1 @ 0.26  iluvbitcoins
2 @ 0.25  Earl Riccardo
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(only 5 available)

If no more bids come, Long bond pays back 400%.

Marquess Karl bids 1 @ 25

That's a losing one; you need to bid higher than the lowest bid.

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The Company of Theophany did well and produced some more page of Codex Cryptonica
  • Nobility recapitulate the various titles and way to address the nobility.
  • Clergy. This later entry contains some interesting rumours as well a non exhaustive list of title and how to properly address a member of the Clergy. The Church wishes to thank the Most Honorary Marquess Karl Hungus for his precious help

The correct way to refer to the person Karl Hungus by birth, is now The Marquess of OZ.

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rpietila thanks for all, i busy this weekend but let you know if i can buy land this weekend . ^^

May I suggest that you address the King properly? The best way to strive in our city includes respect of some basic politeness. The kingdom reached already a significant development which wouldn't be possible without a subtle but important sense of social order. Smiley

While this is surely a good admonition, we must remember that we are talking about a person in the level L2: Stranger.  Cheesy Non-national non-residents may address Our Majesty with the nick without retaliation, since they are following their own customs and do not know ours.

Attached is some correspondence among the high echelons of the society:

Your Grace, another payment to the treasury of 850.09 XMR

PayId: 0d2bb31e9eCENSORED0ba186c00416dd27b3cc3d8e711837404c99641b5f7317

regards
The Marquess of OZ

It is Your Majesty to you. Bishop is Your Grace.  Lips sealed

Your Majesty, my PM was sent to the Bishop in his role as CK treasurer, and I have got into the habit of CC'ing you a copy also to speed things up. Previously there could be up to 48 hours before the payments were recorded on the spreadsheet when PM'ing the Bishop only, but when I CC HM  the payment gets recorded promptly, thus avoiding interest. I would never dare to insult you Your Majesty!!

Your humble servant
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Hypothecary Bank Bond Issue Series B: 1512-1590

The bond auction will run ~10 more hours.

Current situation:

Hypothecary Bond Series B pays back 100 mil in 1590; 10 units offered

0 @ 85  Buy Me Now!* (0.21% APR)
1 @ 84  Dr. Choo
1 @ 83  Dr. Choo
1 @ 82  Dr. Choo
1 @ 81  Dr. Choo
1 @ 80  Dr. Choo
4 @ 80  The Marquess of OZ (0.29% APR)
1 @ 80  Rhadamanthus, Earl of (?)
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1 @ 80  Rhadamanthus, Earl of (?)   <- current price = 80

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Promotions in Crypto Kingdom


His Grace, The Bishop has been promoted to Marquess (1510). "David has been Our Majesty's faithful companion for 110 years, from the first year of our reign. Promoting him to Marquess is to show how not only gaining riches (blunt referral to the recent Marquess promotion) are a way to the highest levels - giving the riches away can also work. The Bishop has donated most of his wealth to the Church, which we regard in high esteem."

Lord Rhadamathus has been created Earl (1510). "We are satisfied to see the majestic School for Jungherren right next to the palace of the Earl. Seeing this from our bedroom window reminds us that good works should be rewarded."

Lord Jacket has been created Earl (1514). "Earl Jacket was selected for promotion already but we decided to rush it once we saw that his might has indeed reached if not surpassed that of other Earls, and the operation of a museum with 500 sqm of 5 m high gallery space is not a small undertaking in a city where so many Masters do not get promoted nobles because of their lack of a 100 sqm house."

Paulson, Esq. has been ennobled (1514). "It is very counterproductive to beg for promotion since the rules clearly say that Noble promotions are of the pleasure of His Majesty and not of right. However, when we were browsing the census reports after deciding that one Baron must be created at once, Paulson's credentials were the best of all Masters in the Kingdom. We wish good business fortune for the coming El Bulli restaurant, the second $$$$$ place in town!"


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