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Barcelona wants every good player, the reality is that they have no money for the best. 2-3 years with Messi, after that they will not be tempting for promising players. desperate management leads them to ruin. Just think, after they sell Neymar and take highest money from the transfer, do you know where they spend this money? which player bought and that he is still worth or is essential for these team? The ANswer is zero. For example, Coutinho paid 150m, now they worth maybe 60m. Just maybe. Any footballer needs to think "anyone rather than Barcelona". just the facts.
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@LFC_Bitcoin you really think that Liverpool needs to sign 31old players? Now when they on the top, why you need the old players? I am not sure how they can improve Liv. team performance.
Liverpool might be interested in him as being a back up player for Salah or Mane since he can play both of this spot. I agree with you that he won't improve the team that much as a starter but this will be a very good signing as a role player especially if either of them gets injured or needs to rest. Willian will be a good signing here especially if they get him now that he can sign for anyone for free, I know at 31 he won't be looking for any starter roles in the Premier League so signing for a Champions League team like Liverpool will be a good option for him.
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@LFC_Bitcoin you really think that Liverpool needs to sign 31old players? Now when they on the top, why you need the old players? I am not sure how they can improve Liv. team performance.
Liverpool might be interested in him as being a back up player for Salah or Mane since he can play both of this spot. I agree with you that he won't improve the team that much as a starter but this will be a very good signing as a role player especially if either of them gets injured or needs to rest. Willian will be a good signing here especially if they get him now that he can sign for anyone for free, I know at 31 he won't be looking for any starter roles in the Premier League so signing for a Champions League team like Liverpool will be a good option for him. Willian can be interesting for new Newcastle, and building something new there. But Liverpool has a very well balanced team, and I can't understand why they need them. Now is great time to buy young and high potential players which over time will integrate into the first team.
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Barcelona wants every good player, the reality is that they have no money for the best. 2-3 years with Messi, after that they will not be tempting for promising players. desperate management leads them to ruin. Just think, after they sell Neymar and take highest money from the transfer, do you know where they spend this money? which player bought and that he is still worth or is essential for these team? The ANswer is zero. For example, Coutinho paid 150m, now they worth maybe 60m. Just maybe. Any footballer needs to think "anyone rather than Barcelona". just the facts.
Barcelona can sign any player they want to, even the best players and they also have the best player in the world in Messi, another reason why players will love to wear a Barca shirt. I am also sure it's almost every footballers dream to play for Barcelona, to play alongside Lionel Messi, it's true good coaches have been hard to come by for them in recent years, but it doesn't change the truth/fact that they can attract any player in the world to camp nou. Coutinho flopped, but I think it was more of his fault than that of Barcelona, he found it difficult to adapt to the Spanish style of play, and I always felt he was better suited in England. Any new player who adapts to Barcelona's style of play and blends into the team will definitely succeed.
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Coutinho flopped because so much was expected from him, he came with a huge fee. Messi is the star there, every player plays second fiddle to Messi. Coutinho is a good player but he would never be the teams star player.
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Coutinho flopped because so much was expected from him, he came with a huge fee. Messi is the star there, every player plays second fiddle to Messi. Coutinho is a good player but he would never be the teams star player.
I don't know if you can say he flopped. He was not the same player at Liverpool for sure, but he did himself ok at Barca, helped them win a few games and the same thing at Bayern too. I guess people just thought he should be a superhuman,,, but he played admirably if we are objective.
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It would be vvery damaging for Chelsea if he joins Arsenal as free agent. WIllian is a player that can be sold for a lot of money because he has made valuable games for the Blues. If he joins Arsenal he is going to be a big thread for Chelsea and a huge mistake for him to join there as Chelsea fans are going to hate them.
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Coutinho flopped because so much was expected from him, he came with a huge fee. Messi is the star there, every player plays second fiddle to Messi. Coutinho is a good player but he would never be the teams star player.
I don't know if you can say he flopped. He was not the same player at Liverpool for sure, but he did himself ok at Barca, helped them win a few games and the same thing at Bayern too. I guess people just thought he should be a superhuman,,, but he played admirably if we are objective. When you pay around 150mil for the player, it is logical that you expect from him to make some difference on the pitch. Now Barca wants to sell Coutinho for almost half of the paid amount. We have to agree that there is an evident problem with Coutinho out of Liverpool. it seems like a similar thing to Griezmann, also are rumours that he might go in the direction to PSG. Barcelona can sign any player they want to, even the best players and they also have the best player in the world in Messi, another reason why players will love to wear a Barca shirt. I am also sure it's almost every footballers dream to play for Barcelona, to play alongside Lionel Messi, it's true good coaches have been hard to come by for them in recent years, but it doesn't change the truth/fact that they can attract any player in the world to camp nou.
Coutinho flopped, but I think it was more of his fault than that of Barcelona, he found it difficult to adapt to the Spanish style of play, and I always felt he was better suited in England. Any new player who adapts to Barcelona's style of play and blends into the team will definitely succeed.
Players which come from Latin America like to come, I think the most about other non-football stuff. Similar language, climate... others, especially from top 4 leagues, they are not so in love with Barca. After Suarez, which top player fits in Barca "style" football? Who is the best in their position and that it became irreplaceable there? Can you remember?
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Yes, please... - He might not be a young talent anymore but he's still a decent addition to a lot of teams.I am confused, what is the real price for Willian? Is ti free agent or he worth 22.5m Eur? I mean there is a difference around ~22.5m which is not a small amount of money?
He'll be a free agent in a few months [AFAIK]. It would be vvery damaging for Chelsea if he joins Arsenal as free agent. WIllian is a player that can be sold for a lot of money because he has made valuable games for the Blues. If he joins Arsenal he is going to be a big thread for Chelsea and a huge mistake for him to join there as Chelsea fans are going to hate them.
Without factoring the money part, I don't think Chelsea fans are going to hate him that much since over the past few seasons, both of them have taken/signed a player from one another.
Looks like " Auba's situation" isn't that good. Would you have him for another season or sell him for something this year? - I think Arsenal will keep him for another year but I would sell him since he's not sure about his future. There's still "Martinelli"...
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Coutinho flopped because so much was expected from him, he came with a huge fee. Messi is the star there, every player plays second fiddle to Messi. Coutinho is a good player but he would never be the teams star player.
What did Barca buy him for then? He should've been one of the club's star players imho. Klopp was gonna build his squad around him before Barca had to mess with Coutinho's head by pressuring him to get him. Edit: Big clubs shouldn't be doing that to players.
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A lot of South American’s dream to play for Barca or Real. We weren’t a great side then, we didn’t have Van Dink or Alisson. Coutinho was great but we became a better team without him. I saw that he’s been linked with Everton, that’d be funny.
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Uruguayan Pellistri linked with Man City and Real Madrid - Bundesliga interest confirmed Pellistri currently plays in his home country for CA Peñarol, where head coach Diego Forlán has a high opinion of him and started the right winger in all three league matches, before the season was suspended because of the coronavirus pandemic.
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According to a recent report from the Daily Mail [1], West Ham has changed plans in the summer of 2020, the club is reportedly experiencing a financial crisis due to the COVID-19 pandemic. This forced them to sell several players, including Declan Rice. The price installed was quite high, which is £ 70 million. Declan Rice became one of the important players owned by West Ham in the 2019/20 season, although his team occupy the bottom of the standings, the 21-year-old has become a vital figure in midfield and has appeared in 32 matches. At the national team level, he also has collected six caps. But is it deserve that players are not famous like Declan Rice has a price of £ 70 million? Reference [1]: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8262915/Manchester-United-Chelsea-target-Declan-Rice-sale-70m-West-Ham-plan-overhaul.html
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Coutinho flopped, but I think it was more of his fault than that of Barcelona, he found it difficult to adapt to the Spanish style of play, and I always felt he was better suited in England. Any new player who adapts to Barcelona's style of play and blends into the team will definitely succeed.
I also think the same. He didn't fit right into Barcelona style of playing. Don't know what to blame for him but you can see how well he is doing under loan at Bayern Munich right now. It's like I am watching a whole new Coutinho. I would be glad if Bayern moves him completely there. I nerve saw him, is he good? How much do you think is his real value?
Oh he is a very good talent, I wouldn't say a top class but he does knows his roles. Passing on, taking chances, making chances and overall he could be a good buy. I would say should go around a little over 40m.€ .
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I also think the same. He didn't fit right into Barcelona style of playing. That was in Valverde's Barcelona. This "new" Barcelona under Setien could very well be what Coutinho needs to finally showcase his potential in Spain. I hope Bayern doesn't end up getting "Dayot Upamecano". I really like him for Arsenal. - Dayot Upamecano latestUpamecano to Bayern for 60M could very well happen this year according to Bild. Source. This guy is such a good CB, the next Lilian Thuram.
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Well, Arthur is only 23 years old, which really puts his value high because any team that gets him and manages to actually implement him well enough, could just keep him for 10 years, not that those kind of stuff happen anymore too frequently but young players do get a higher value anyway. He plays for Barcelona which increases his value as well, Barcelona will not play a player who is bad, they know the talent level they bring in from the youth, we see some of them but hundreds of them just never play for the A team.
All of that combined means at least a 20 million price. Looking at transfermarkt website it looks like 56 right now but I am not entirely sure if that is accurate, that is probably before corona happened, teams probably wouldn't want to pay that much after this much loss of revenue.
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