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December 10, 2020, 10:45:55 PM
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Pogba Juve presented the best version of him.
Maybe in Manchester with the conditions being presented in the club and long leisure period could not make Pogba to submit something and expose him to media pressure.

Real could give him a chance But Perez will not forget that Pogba grown up up on Madrid when he asked for them Now the deal may be concluded with the Real in on it with Zidane's support Who may succeed in persuading Perez.
Pogba if he came at a reasonable price Maybe an excellent deepen Madrid squad if Real provided guarantees for him and His salary was reasonable they might get him and Zidane will be able to unlock Pogba tge version of Juventus so everything is possible.
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December 10, 2020, 10:53:59 PM
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Pogba Juve presented the best version of him.
Maybe in Manchester with the conditions being presented in the club and long leisure period could not make Pogba to submit something and expose him to media pressure.

Its a silly assumption. Pogba is nothing more than a great player in Juventus but because of the huge transfer from Juventus, he now think that he is a superstar and that kind of attitude from him prevented him to give his best effort. He may think that he is one of the best player in Serie A but in Premier League, everything would be different

The fact is, he cant adapt well in Premier League and most people including Manchester United misjudged his performances. You cant just give your 80% in Premier League and call it your best performances. If he cant is not passionate enough to play then he wont have his spot any longer in Manchester United ( and that is probably the reason why Bruno Fernandez made the highlights most of the time despite everyone knows that Bruno individual skill is probably well below Pogba )

 
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December 10, 2020, 11:35:17 PM
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Pogba Juve presented the best version of him.
Maybe in Manchester with the conditions being presented in the club and long leisure period could not make Pogba to submit something and expose him to media pressure.

Real could give him a chance But Perez will not forget that Pogba grown up up on Madrid when he asked for them Now the deal may be concluded with the Real in on it with Zidane's support Who may succeed in persuading Perez.
Pogba if he came at a reasonable price Maybe an excellent deepen Madrid squad if Real provided guarantees for him and His salary was reasonable they might get him and Zidane will be able to unlock Pogba tge version of Juventus so everything is possible.

Don't Real Madrid already have Toni Kross in "Pogba's Position" ?

If Pogba will end to Real Madrid what will be the midfield of Real Madrid?


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December 10, 2020, 11:39:52 PM
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...
Pogba if he came at a reasonable price Maybe an excellent deepen Madrid squad if Real provided guarantees for him and His salary was reasonable they might get him and Zidane will be able to unlock Pogba tge version of Juventus so everything is possible.

income reduced since the pandemic situation. I believe Bale was on loan due to balancing the cash flow of players' salaries.
most likely Pogba won't be signed in this situation.

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The fact is, he cant adapt well in Premier League and most people including Manchester United misjudged his performances.
...

He is good individually, but not so good on the field and off the field.
He played better when Ibra still in United. because no one is a star in front of God.  Grin
United paid excessively just because he can do the DAB pose.  Grin
Pogba and Lingard are celebrities. Glad that Rashford not really infected by them despite their closeness.
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December 11, 2020, 02:43:23 AM
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omg, IT'S HAPPENING!! let's gooo  Shocked Shocked


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-9026991/Paul-Pogbas-agent-Mino-Raiola-says-time-Manchester-United-OVER.html

Frabrizio Romano's tweet in case you don't want to give the infamous Dailymail more clicks and views lol https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1335970068002430979

Well, speculation time: where is he going to go next? odds in the bookies went live. Skybet have Real Madrid @5 odds, Juve @9 odds and then PSG at 11.00. We'll get better odds as we get closer to the transfer window


Told you long time ago he was not a player of Manchester anymore.

To me is only a race between Juve and Real, Juventus cold offer an exchange with Dybala.

@coinlocket$ If I were the coach then I would make Pogba sit on the bench or make him play with the reserves, but since Ole is the coach I’m pretty sure that he’ll play Pogba like nothing has happened. Furthermore I feel that Ole is too soft on Pogba and that’s why his agent can speak against the club, anytime he wants too, but I’m sincerely hoping that Ole will finally decide that he needs to ruthless and drop Pogba from the squad.
I think Pogba not get good position under Ole as coach for Manchester United and he always in front of defender exactly Pogba become most superior when behind from forward, so this why make Pogba do not happy with Manchester United and exactly is not good proffessional for player and become bad reputation for club. I think he will spend time with Manchester United on the bench because he made bad thing for Manchester United during Manchester always get bad result after not pass to knock out group from champion league.

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December 11, 2020, 03:22:47 PM
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now that would be a surprise if leipzig would make the race for DS Shocked - besides, the transfer of Josko Gvardiol to red-bull leipzig this winter is also imminent

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December 11, 2020, 05:51:28 PM
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What a signing for Leipzig they have managed to sign future defender Josko Gvardiol aged 18 from Ukrainian club Dinamo Zagreb. But Josko Gvardiol will still play with Dinamo Zagreb until the end of the season and will strengthen Leipzig in the 2021/2022 season, after Dortmund has now transformed into a club that has disrupted Bayern's dominance in the Bundesliga and they have begun to actively build a squad with a composition of young players. Maybe there will be some potential young players who will be recruited by Leipzig this season considering they are very consistent at this time sticking to Bayern's position and have a big chance in the Champions League this season, will Leipzig become a team that the Bundesliga club fans really hate this season with achievements that are very high. extraordinary?

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December 11, 2020, 06:53:17 PM
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Mesut Özil is on the move but where? It looks like Italian side Juventus is rumored but his salary is a big problem. He hasn't played for months, he's 33 now. This might be his last big contract.
Fenerbahçe was also interested but I don't think they can pay that salary to him. Besides that, wage difference would be huge, that would destroy team chemistry.

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December 11, 2020, 08:13:50 PM
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now that would be a surprise if leipzig would make the race for DS Shocked - besides, the transfer of Josko Gvardiol to red-bull leipzig this winter is also imminent

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Deal almost done?
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https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/news/view?id=375521

Seems so, also Sky. de is talking about it.
Last year he got a clause of 24 million... they tried to brought him but he said he wanted to stay 1 more year so there is no way to get him out.

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December 11, 2020, 09:55:03 PM
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Mesut Özil is on the move but where? It looks like Italian side Juventus is rumored but his salary is a big problem. He hasn't played for months, he's 33 now. This might be his last big contract.
Fenerbahçe was also interested but I don't think they can pay that salary to him. Besides that, wage difference would be huge, that would destroy team chemistry.
That age can still work at Juventus (if you know what I mean Grin )
I was disappointed at how Arsenal treated him. I would really like to see him end his career on a high. Pairing up with form teammate Ronaldo would be absolutely awesome.

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December 11, 2020, 11:31:18 PM
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That age can still work at Juventus (if you know what I mean Grin )
I was disappointed at how Arsenal treated him. I would really like to see him end his career on a high. Pairing up with form teammate Ronaldo would be absolutely awesome.

?

Juventus has one of the youngest teams in Europe now, time has been changed.
We actually have only 3 over 30 years old in the best 11 formations.

Ronaldo 35
Bonucci 33
Cuadrado 32

(Chiellini and Buffon play if they are not broken only when the games are easier).


Besides this, we have increasing rumors of a possible deal for Pogba (55 million). The Sun.

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December 11, 2020, 11:48:21 PM
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That age can still work at Juventus (if you know what I mean Grin )
I was disappointed at how Arsenal treated him. I would really like to see him end his career on a high. Pairing up with form teammate Ronaldo would be absolutely awesome.

?

Juventus has one of the youngest teams in Europe now, time has been changed.
We actually have only 3 over 30 years old in the best 11 formations.

Ronaldo 35
Bonucci 33
Cuadrado 32

(Chiellini and Buffon play if they are not broken only when the games are easier).


Besides this, we have increasing rumors of a possible deal for Pogba (55 million). The Sun.


I agree that most of the players Juventus have are under 30 years of age. This is a positive thing for the future of Juventus,
especially if it is true that Paul Pogba can move to Juventus. Will make the composition of Juventus players even more solid,
I am optimistic that Pogba will join Juventus. Based on the words of Mino Raiola as an agent, Pogba said that his client was
unhappy at Manchester United and wanted to leave immediately. Then based on the news from The Times, Pogba prefers to
return to playing with Juventus. Let's wait and see.

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December 12, 2020, 12:03:39 AM
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Pogba Juve presented the best version of him.
Maybe in Manchester with the conditions being presented in the club and long leisure period could not make Pogba to submit something and expose him to media pressure.

Real could give him a chance But Perez will not forget that Pogba grown up up on Madrid when he asked for them Now the deal may be concluded with the Real in on it with Zidane's support Who may succeed in persuading Perez.
Pogba if he came at a reasonable price Maybe an excellent deepen Madrid squad if Real provided guarantees for him and His salary was reasonable they might get him and Zidane will be able to unlock Pogba tge version of Juventus so everything is possible.

Don't Real Madrid already have Toni Kross in "Pogba's Position" ?

If Pogba will end to Real Madrid what will be the midfield of Real Madrid?


Kross Pogba
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Seems not well sorted IMHO.
Kroos is not an offensive player he is more of a control and hold possession midfielder unlike Pogba whom contribute more in attack I think he is more to replace Modric but at the end it's all going to depend on Zidane power in persuading Perez to get him. Manchester is now asking 55€ million instead of 100€ million that they have been asking before. It's a good price considering that he have seen better days and the impact of Corona virus on teams budget. If Unites didn't get a buyer in january surely they will trade him for another player in summer their only problem is going to convince Pogba to cut down his wages
 
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December 12, 2020, 07:03:45 AM
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Mesut Özil is on the move but where? It looks like Italian side Juventus is rumored but his salary is a big problem. He hasn't played for months, he's 33 now. This might be his last big contract.
Fenerbahçe was also interested but I don't think they can pay that salary to him. Besides that, wage difference would be huge, that would destroy team chemistry.
Seeing that Juventus refused to sign Ozil in 5 attempts [by Arsenal] in the past year [source #1 and source #2], it's safe to say we could ignore the rumor of them signing him and according to ESPN, Ozil prefers a move to MLS but I have a feeling he'll stay for the rest of the season, then leaves for free.

With Arteta's job at stake, Looks like their next target is going to be Allegri [source]...
- Having said that, I hope "Man U" doesn't sign him first.

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December 12, 2020, 09:07:03 AM
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With Arteta's job at stake, Looks like their next target is going to be Allegri [source]...
- Having said that, I hope "Man U" doesn't sign him first.

Arsenal are really performing bad in PL but given the immediate achievements he had last season I think board is still gonna trust him for a bit more time maybe. Here he is being supported by Arsenal's chief executive: https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11670/12158647/mikel-arteta-will-succeed-at-arsenal-says-chief-executive . Things are just going wrong in attacking end for now for Arsenal and I think it is gonna solve up soon.
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December 12, 2020, 11:17:37 AM
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Transfer rumours:

The £200m takeover of Premier League side Burnley by an American sports investment firm is set to signed off next week. Premier League has become a real magnet for foreign investors.
Uruguayan striker Edinson Cavani, turned down both Juventus and Inter Milan to join Manchester United on a free transfer in the summer. Personally, it seems to me that he made a mistake and that Italy would be a better choice for him.
Barcelona manager Ronald Koeman remains keen on signing Liverpool's 30-year-old Dutch midfielder Georginio Wijnaldum. Will Koeman stay long enough as a coach to make it happen?
Atletico Madrid's Spanish midfielder Koke, has spoken about how he would love to persuade Argentine striker Lionel Messi, 33 to join from Barcelona, but admitted it would be difficult "for him to get out of there". Everyone's in love with Messi  Grin
Bayern Munich defender David Alaba, whose contract with the club expires next summer, is keen to move to Real Madrid but the Spanish side face competition from Chelsea and Paris St-Germain for the 28-year-old Austria international's signature. Everybody wants Alaba and the question is what does he want??
Manchester City and Manchester United are both expected to express an interest in signing Borussia Dortmund's Norwegian striker Erling Braut Haaland, over the coming months. Where Haaland will eventually go? Is England really the only choice for him?

Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/55278089

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December 12, 2020, 03:13:02 PM
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With Arteta's job at stake, Looks like their next target is going to be Allegri [source]...
- Having said that, I hope "Man U" doesn't sign him first.

Arsenal are really performing bad in PL but given the immediate achievements he had last season I think board is still gonna trust him for a bit more time maybe. Here he is being supported by Arsenal's chief executive: https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11670/12158647/mikel-arteta-will-succeed-at-arsenal-says-chief-executive . Things are just going wrong in attacking end for now for Arsenal and I think it is gonna solve up soon.

@Avirunes I believe that it’ll be a big mistake to sack him so soon, because he needs to be given some more time, but if he yet continues to falter then I believe that Arsenal board will be right sack him. Furthermore I thought Ole is the next manager to be sacked, and if Manchester United doesn’t win tonight, then Manchester United board will have no other option but to sack him to save their season.

Sources:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/12/11/mikel-arteta-needs-time-courage-stand-super-agents-succeed/

https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/solskjaer-next-manager-sacked-leeds-19425365

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-9046013/Paul-Merson-believes-Ole-Gunnar-Solskjaer-SACKED-Manchester-United-lose-rivals-City.html
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December 12, 2020, 08:25:01 PM
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I do not really find this foreign investor thing as a great idea for many football teams. The fact is that in many american sports teams you can see that owners try for two things, either make profit directly each season, or get their team worth more even if they lose money but gain overall from increase of team value.

It means they see this as a purely business deal and nothing more, they do not feel anything about the team at all, this works for other nations investing as well. For example if a team from burnley that means someone from burnley should probably own it, either born there or raise there or lives there whatever. When you have absolutely no connection at all, it becomes just a business and that may bring success but doesn't have that type of soul anymore at all.
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December 12, 2020, 09:30:47 PM
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Kroos is not an offensive player he is more of a control and hold possession midfielder unlike Pogba whom contribute more in attack I think he is more to replace Modric but at the end it's all going to depend on Zidane power in persuading Perez to get him. Manchester is now asking 55€ million instead of 100€ million that they have been asking before. It's a good price considering that he have seen better days and the impact of Corona virus on teams budget. If Unites didn't get a buyer in january surely they will trade him for another player in summer their only problem is going to convince Pogba to cut down his wages
 

Since Pogba has not worked in Italy in the last 2 years he can eligible for the law called "Decreto Crescita".
For this law, any worker coming to Italy and work for a period with a duration equal or over 24 months will have to pay fewer taxes.

For Example, if Pogba wants 12m/y in his pocket for Juventus will cost 16ish with taxes while Real will cost 24 ish with taxes.

Dybala is not eligible for this law and he takes 7.5m € and it costs 15m € for Juventus with taxes yearly.

Now if they can exchange these 2 players with an iper-evaluation around 80milions (like Pjanic-Arthur) il will basically have no cost for Juventus BUT they will need also a striker and to sell one in midfield, probably Ramsey or Rabiot.

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December 12, 2020, 09:38:27 PM
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I do not really find this foreign investor thing as a great idea for many football teams. The fact is that in many american sports teams you can see that owners try for two things, either make profit directly each season, or get their team worth more even if they lose money but gain overall from increase of team value.

It means they see this as a purely business deal and nothing more, they do not feel anything about the team at all, this works for other nations investing as well. For example if a team from burnley that means someone from burnley should probably own it, either born there or raise there or lives there whatever. When you have absolutely no connection at all, it becomes just a business and that may bring success but doesn't have that type of soul anymore at all.

You'll barely see any football team owners that has passion on the sport and the city or place they are representing. These guys will always see profit that's why you will see some teams when a player had a breakout season they will immediately accept a transfer because they want the huge amount some even don't care about how the season will be affected because of that transfer. Right now you really don't have to look far to see that the current situation will always be about profit and how they will be maximizing the value of their assets and that is including players.
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