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March 17, 2021, 05:50:48 PM
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I do not get why would Juventus want to sell him? I didn't understand when Real sold him neither, but I didn't get it when United sold him too, basically I do not get why anyone would have Ronaldo on their team and think about selling him for ANY reason.

The reality is that if I was president of Juventus, I would tell Ronaldo to give me an age when he thinks he will retire, and give him a contract until that many years. He thinks he will retire at 40? I would give him contract until he is 40, that is how it should be because it is Ronaldo we are talking about.

Not like you could sell him and get a player that is better than Ronaldo for that price, nobody would be willing to pay fair price for him because you buy a player for this season but for next seasons as well and Ronaldo is awesome right now but for how many years? So that is why the team that has him could use him the most.

He simply costs too much. His salary in that period is huge and the club is betting on him losing form and a bit of quality because of his age. Sometimes it is smarter to go for a worse player that can bring back some profit than to hold on to an old one.

From a football perspective only, of course you do not replace Ronaldo. The problem is that clubs are run like businesses and money is a huge factor when deciding which players to bring or to sell/release.

@lixer do you even understand how badly the finances of Juventus have been hit due to pandemic, and by selling Ronaldo they’ll be able to recover their losses and balance their books, so it’s a no brainier for me that they should sell him. Also Zidane was silent on whether Real Madrid will purchase Ronaldo in the summer transfer window, and honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if they did.

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https://talksport.com/football/848527/zinedine-zidane-cristiano-ronaldo-real-madrid-25m-return-juventus/
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March 17, 2021, 05:52:05 PM
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He simply costs too much. His salary in that period is huge and the club is betting on him losing form and a bit of quality because of his age. Sometimes it is smarter to go for a worse player that can bring back some profit than to hold on to an old one.

From a football perspective only, of course you do not replace Ronaldo. The problem is that clubs are run like businesses and money is a huge factor when deciding which players to bring or to sell/release.

Yeah he’s old, has huge wages & a massive ego which isn’t good for team morale. I dunno, I think it’s a good idea for Juve to look elsewhere. Lots of younger, cheaper hungrier alternatives.

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March 17, 2021, 08:14:52 PM
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Former Red devils defender and legend Rio Ferdinand is expecting that Haaland will move to England rather than France or Spain.
In his eyes, ManU should do everything possible so that Haaland will move to them, because with him would also return success..

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Quote from: goal.com

The former Red Devils defender expects the Norway international to head to England despite reported interest from Spain and France
Manchester United have been urged to “give everything to get Erling Haaland”, with Rio Ferdinand calling on the prolific Norwegian striker to be the man that “brings trophies back” to Old Trafford.

The Red Devils were in the hunt for a much sought-after signature during the winter transfer window of 2020, but saw a hot prospect snub them on his way to joining Borussia Dortmund.

Interest at Old Trafford has been retained, with Haaland maintaining remarkable standards in Germany, and the talented Leeds-born 20-year-old is now being linked with leading sides across Europe.

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Source: https://www.goal.com/en/news/ferdinand-urges-man-utd-to-give-everything-to-get-haaland/90qez7l0icby1xns0xkyurywt

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March 17, 2021, 08:32:48 PM
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Former Red devils defender and legend Rio Ferdinand is expecting that Haaland will move to England rather than France or Spain.
In his eyes, ManU should do everything possible so that Haaland will move to them, because with him would also return success..

If you look at Haaland's performance with Dortmund this season, I agree with Rio Ferdinand that Haaland should move to England instead of
playing in France or Spain. Because the Premier League is currently the most interesting competition in my opinion compared to other European
Leagues. It is very suitable to make Haaland's football career go up and also with many star players in the Premier League to make Haaland's
abilities even more honed. If Manchester United can get Haaland I am also sure that Manchester United can achieve success in the next season,
because Manchester United do need a replacement for Cavani for next season.

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March 17, 2021, 09:19:04 PM
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Former Red devils defender and legend Rio Ferdinand is expecting that Haaland will move to England rather than France or Spain.
In his eyes, ManU should do everything possible so that Haaland will move to them, because with him would also return success..

If you look at Haaland's performance with Dortmund this season, I agree with Rio Ferdinand that Haaland should move to England instead of
playing in France or Spain. Because the Premier League is currently the most interesting competition in my opinion compared to other European
Leagues. It is very suitable to make Haaland's football career go up and also with many star players in the Premier League to make Haaland's
abilities even more honed. If Manchester United can get Haaland I am also sure that Manchester United can achieve success in the next season,
because Manchester United do need a replacement for Cavani for next season.

Yeah, I agree..his current form is really impressive! His impact inside the team is sick aswell.
I don't think France or Spain are a good idea either, as some talent there hasn't blossomed in the past as might have been expected.
That's why the only options are England or the Bundesliga. I think we can expect a lot from Dortmund next season with Rose as coach.

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March 17, 2021, 09:47:35 PM
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I've also heard about some news that Juventus would be willing to decrease the selling price, yes. As he is 36-year-old now, of course I don't have an expectation like he would be sold for €100m etc. .  Grin  But his wage demands will probably be quite high for sure. Anyway, I've heard about it also that there is some possibility for him to go back to Real but I don't think so. It seems to me like there are three options that he will think about:

1. He will decide to stay and Juventus will extend his contract and won't let him go for free.
2. Ronaldo will go to PSG and strengthen the squad even much more with Mbappe-Ronaldo-Neymar trio.
3. Ronaldo will go to Manchester Utd and maybe even end his career there as he has very special memories there.
I do not get why would Juventus want to sell him? I didn't understand when Real sold him neither, but I didn't get it when United sold him too, basically I do not get why anyone would have Ronaldo on their team and think about selling him for ANY reason.

The reality is that if I was president of Juventus, I would tell Ronaldo to give me an age when he thinks he will retire, and give him a contract until that many years. He thinks he will retire at 40? I would give him contract until he is 40, that is how it should be because it is Ronaldo we are talking about.

Not like you could sell him and get a player that is better than Ronaldo for that price, nobody would be willing to pay fair price for him because you buy a player for this season but for next seasons as well and Ronaldo is awesome right now but for how many years? So that is why the team that has him could use him the most.

I was also surprised when I first heard of it. Because he has been doing awesome at Juventus for years and I was thinking that Juventus would also be willing to keep him at the team more and maybe even try to convince him to retire at the club. It is said that they don't want to lose him for free so they want to sell him as soon as possible. But instead, they can extend his contract and do what is needed to have him at the team for more years. I think there may be something different under it that we don't know. We will see what is gonna happen in this summer.

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March 17, 2021, 10:25:19 PM
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I do not get why would Juventus want to sell him? I didn't understand when Real sold him neither, but I didn't get it when United sold him too, basically I do not get why anyone would have Ronaldo on their team and think about selling him for ANY reason.

The reality is that if I was president of Juventus, I would tell Ronaldo to give me an age when he thinks he will retire, and give him a contract until that many years. He thinks he will retire at 40? I would give him contract until he is 40, that is how it should be because it is Ronaldo we are talking about.


The club needs new players to fill several positions that are considered as weak position. What should they do to save the club and back to winning track is to fill the weak position with new players and also when the club needs to reduce expenses from the star's salary who may no longer be contributing to the good income from his merchandise sales. This is what I thought was why clubs like MU and Madrid were selling Ronaldo. IMO

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March 18, 2021, 11:24:11 AM
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FC Bayern München is on the lookout for a new second goalkeeper as Alexander Nübel looks set to be loaned out next season. According to the German Kicker Stefan Ortega, who is currently playing for Arminia Bielefeld could be Bayern's target.

Stefan Ortega on Bayern's interest and whether he'd swap his regular spot with a number 2 role: "I'd always prefer the offer where I have the chance to play. But we're talking about Bayern, one of the best clubs in the world. It's a matter of assessment and weighing up" [Kicker]

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March 18, 2021, 12:19:37 PM
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The club needs new players to fill several positions that are considered as weak position. What should they do to save the club and back to winning track is to fill the weak position with new players and also when the club needs to reduce expenses from the star's salary who may no longer be contributing to the good income from his merchandise sales. This is what I thought was why clubs like MU and Madrid were selling Ronaldo. IMO

It seems probable that they will use the Ronaldo money (money that will not go towards his wages) for Pogba transfer. There's a lot of talk about Pogba going back and there's no way Juventus can afford him while keeping Ronaldo.

I think everything's better than spending money on Pogba but the press is saying all parties want that deal done. If that's true, Ronaldo needs to go.

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March 18, 2021, 02:30:26 PM
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The club needs new players to fill several positions that are considered as weak position. What should they do to save the club and back to winning track is to fill the weak position with new players and also when the club needs to reduce expenses from the star's salary who may no longer be contributing to the good income from his merchandise sales. This is what I thought was why clubs like MU and Madrid were selling Ronaldo. IMO

It seems probable that they will use the Ronaldo money (money that will not go towards his wages) for Pogba transfer. There's a lot of talk about Pogba going back and there's no way Juventus can afford him while keeping Ronaldo.

I think everything's better than spending money on Pogba but the press is saying all parties want that deal done. If that's true, Ronaldo needs to go.

I don't know whether Pogba could go back to Juventus but there is a very big weakness on their midfield for sure. They need to make the necessary transfer(s) for there in this summer and strengthen the lineup. Losing Ronaldo of course will be really bad for Juventus as he still plays great and makes a great deal of contribution to the club. They can't continue with only Morata and Dybala (who will most likely be leaving this summer). They should also make a good striker transfer.

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Former Red devils defender and legend Rio Ferdinand is expecting that Haaland will move to England rather than France or Spain.
In his eyes, ManU should do everything possible so that Haaland will move to them, because with him would also return success..
If Manchester United thinks that if they sign Haaland they'll automatically have a successful season, I'm not saying that Haaland wouldn't improve this Manchester United team, of course he will, but with how quality players bought with quite a large amount of money have flopped in recent times at Old Trafford, there's also a possibility that Haaland can follow in that footstep.

Manchester United need a couple of other players in other positions, not just in the number 9 position, imo, United even need a new manager, I don't think OGS is the man to deliver the success United seeks. Having said that, if I am Haaland, I'd not even go to United, they are a club still fixing quite a lot of things about their team, I'd prefer him to move to a more stable team like City, though that'll make City too strong and totally unstoppable.

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It seems probable that they will use the Ronaldo money (money that will not go towards his wages) for Pogba transfer. There's a lot of talk about Pogba going back and there's no way Juventus can afford him while keeping Ronaldo.

I think everything's better than spending money on Pogba but the press is saying all parties want that deal done. If that's true, Ronaldo needs to go.
If Juventus sells Ronaldo to get Pogba, in my opinion, this will be the biggest mistake from Pirlo and juventus board. Because, Ronaldo proved his consistency in every match he participated in. As for Pogba, he is still not sure to be able to make a positive contribution to Juventus who want to return to become champions of Serie A or not when he is come back. If Juventus is experiencing financial difficulties and decides to sell Ronaldo, then Juventus should look for other players who have better potential to play in every Juventus match like how ronaldo doing.

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March 18, 2021, 05:41:53 PM
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It seems probable that they will use the Ronaldo money (money that will not go towards his wages) for Pogba transfer. There's a lot of talk about Pogba going back and there's no way Juventus can afford him while keeping Ronaldo.

I think everything's better than spending money on Pogba but the press is saying all parties want that deal done. If that's true, Ronaldo needs to go.
If Juventus sells Ronaldo to get Pogba, in my opinion, this will be the biggest mistake from Pirlo and juventus board. Because, Ronaldo proved his consistency in every match he participated in. As for Pogba, he is still not sure to be able to make a positive contribution to Juventus who want to return to become champions of Serie A or not when he is come back. If Juventus is experiencing financial difficulties and decides to sell Ronaldo, then Juventus should look for other players who have better potential to play in every Juventus match like how ronaldo doing.

I don't understand why Juventus is so interested in looking for Paul Pogba.

As for Ronaldo, I don't know, but I read somewhere that Alex Sandro and Paulo Dybala were offering for this exchange.
I'm sorry if I'm wrong, but Manchester seems to be more interested in having these two players than CR7. Unfortunately, I couldn’t find the source of this news anymore.

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the german sports magazine kicker.de reports on the signing of another international talent to bvb

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the german sports magazine kicker.de reports on the signing of another international talent to bvb

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https://www.kicker.de/bvb-verpflichtet-psg-talent-soumaila-coulibaly-800165/artikel

We have seen so many times that Dortmund sign very talented and promising players and after playing for some time there, they choose to go to Bayern in general.  Grin  I wonder whether we will see a similar scenario with Coulibaly also in the future (if he is really promising as it is said). Anyway, still congrats for them!  Cheesy

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March 18, 2021, 08:58:25 PM
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If Juventus sells Ronaldo to get Pogba, in my opinion, this will be the biggest mistake from Pirlo and juventus board. Because, Ronaldo proved his consistency in every match he participated in. As for Pogba, he is still not sure to be able to make a positive contribution to Juventus who want to return to become champions of Serie A or not when he is come back. If Juventus is experiencing financial difficulties and decides to sell Ronaldo, then Juventus should look for other players who have better potential to play in every Juventus match like how ronaldo doing.

Won't be really that "studid" if you ask me if they sold Ronaldo for Pogba it would only mean that Juventus is really cutting down their expenses and right now Ronaldo's wage is more than Dybala's, De Ligt's, and Ramsey's wage combined. If they are able to sell Ronaldo at a profit after buying Pogba they will significantly cut down their wages and maybe improve some spots from the money they have earned from Ronaldo. This is one of the scenarios I am seeing since ever since the pandemic struck Italy Juventus is one of the first Serie A clubs that asked their staff to cut their wages and this move will just be a reflection for their financial problem. Ronaldo departing Juventus won't even be the end for the team as they are still able to keep up in the league.

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March 18, 2021, 09:00:16 PM
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I don't understand why Juventus is so interested in looking for Paul Pogba.

As for Ronaldo, I don't know, but I read somewhere that Alex Sandro and Paulo Dybala were offering for this exchange.
I'm sorry if I'm wrong, but Manchester seems to be more interested in having these two players than CR7. Unfortunately, I couldn’t find the source of this news anymore.

Because he knows the Italian League, is not an easy league to play in.
Because he knows the ambient of Juventus.

Because is what they need, if they will not take Pogba they will go for a similar player, a box to box with great skill in passing and shooting from distance.

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March 18, 2021, 10:33:30 PM
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I don't understand why Juventus is so interested in looking for Paul Pogba.

As for Ronaldo, I don't know, but I read somewhere that Alex Sandro and Paulo Dybala were offering for this exchange.
I'm sorry if I'm wrong, but Manchester seems to be more interested in having these two players than CR7. Unfortunately, I couldn’t find the source of this news anymore.

I agree with you; i do not see Manchester United releasing Paul Pogba to anyone soon; not after his good cameo tonight; Paul remains an important player to Ole rebuild of Manchester United; Also, Ole would not bring in CR7, when theres haaland and Sancho available to be taken. i feel it is simply the media bias fuelling the rumours
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March 18, 2021, 10:48:36 PM
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I agree with you; i do not see Manchester United releasing Paul Pogba to anyone soon; not after his good cameo tonight; Paul remains an important player to Ole rebuild of Manchester United; Also, Ole would not bring in CR7, when theres haaland and Sancho available to be taken. i feel it is simply the media bias fuelling the rumours

Pogba is already sold to someone, we don't know yet to whom.
Raiola said "Paul will leave in the summer"

He can be an asshole whatever you want but if he says one thing the thing will happen.

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March 18, 2021, 10:54:26 PM
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Yes, I understand, Juventus chose to sell Ronaldo to reduce the huge expenses to pay his salary as well as other players and also to bring in new players. What I think is, Juventus are struggling when Ronaldo doesn't play, if next season the expectations for Pogba doesn't match, this is what I think Juventus need to anticipate so they doesn't struggle like the beginning of this season.


the worst AC MIlan's transfer is choosing to bring in Mandzukic rather than buy a defender, that become the weaknesses of AC Milan line up. Since Mandzukic was brought in by AC Milan in the January transfer window, he has only played 4 times with 0 goal, of corse he just to filled the bench, but if he can give contribution, may he will play alongside Ibra. Very ironic, AC Milan's transfer process did not give positive results, it even made them worse off. Whats wrong with AC Milan, extraordinary performance from the start of the season disappeared instantly. In Serie A and UEL, they are no longer have a chance to get a Title. Next season the threat of losing talented players, if the summer transfer does not bring in good players and not giving positive results, then Milan may remain a "mediocre" team.

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