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July 12, 2022, 09:13:18 PM
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Due to the financial situation of Barcelona, we would assume with all the transfers that Real Madrid is in a financial crisis, not Barcelona...
lol. Your assumption may be correct, but the fact is that Barcelona are currently having a difficult time this season. Just look at some of the options made by the Barcelona directors, they have to cut player salaries and there is also information that they want to sell their star, De Jong. And also the problem comes from buying players where Barcelona want to get Lewandowski and Raphinha but so far it has not materialized because of the financial problems they are facing. So have you read all the news published in recent days.

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July 12, 2022, 09:56:29 PM
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Good deal for Brazilian, Raphina has accepted deal's with Barcelona already. He should have ended up with Arsenal or Chelsea, but he has always had he's minds on Brazilian. I don't expect too much competition, all they need to do is to hope no injuries avoid you all right.

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July 12, 2022, 10:41:02 PM
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Barcelona have matched the £60m offer, including add-ons, put forward by Chelsea for Leeds United and Brazil attacker Raphinha. Will this offer be enough for Raphinha to choose Barcelona?
Dutch midfielder Frenkie de Jong, 25, has his heart set on remaining at Barcelona and will reject Manchester United. So, after all the talk of leaving, Jong is still staying at the club?
Juventus are aware of negotiations between the agents of Matthijs de Ligt and Bayern Munich but the Serie A giants have yet to receive an opening bid for the 22-year-old Netherlands defender, who has also been linked to Chelsea. Lots of interested clubs. What will Matthijs de Ligt decide in the end?
Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/62107934

I really don't understand how Barcelona is able to offer 60 million for a player right now considering that they are not in a healthy financial situation. I really hope that the statement of Bayern Munich, and Barcelona not being a club at all in three or four years, does not come true.

De Jong needs to take a pay cut, as far as I know, to stay in Barcelona but I don't think he has agreed to that term at all. So, I am still doubtful that he is willing to stay in Barcelona after all.

The de Ligt situation is still quite open and anything can happen. I am hesitant to wait and see how this thing transpires.

I was also surprised to see that Barcelona dared to buy Raphinha for around 60 million, which is like you said Barcelona's finances are not healthy.
I don't think this is a wise decision, especially since Ousmane Dembele has agreed to stay at Barcelona and extend his contract until 2024.
This means that bringing in Raphinha is not something urgent, because Dembele has the same position as Raphinha, so Raphinha's presence
wasn't really needed. But with Raphinha joining in, Barcelona had to sell some of their players to be able to reduce the salary burden.
The possibility of Memphis Depay being sold by Barcelona, because Xavi rarely gives Depay the opportunity to play as a starter.

Regarding De Jong's future, it seems we will know soon, I believe De Jong will soon join Man United. Because it is very unlikely that De Jong is
willing to cut his salary, while Man United, who has healthy finances, can provide a bigger salary. Then for De Light, I really believe that in the end
he will stay at Juventus, if we look at the attitude of  Juventus who only want to sell De Light for over 90 million. Because it's impossible for either
Bayern or Chelsea to be willing to pay that much to get defenders.

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July 12, 2022, 10:58:02 PM
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Due to the financial situation of Barcelona, we would assume with all the transfers that Real Madrid is in a financial crisis, not Barcelona...
lol. Your assumption may be correct, but the fact is that Barcelona are currently having a difficult time this season. Just look at some of the options made by the Barcelona directors, they have to cut player salaries and there is also information that they want to sell their star, De Jong. And also the problem comes from buying players where Barcelona want to get Lewandowski and Raphinha but so far it has not materialized because of the financial problems they are facing. So have you read all the news published in recent days.
Barcelona's condition like this will make many players not too excited about the upcoming season because the management attacks their mental condition, Barcelona's finances should not do that and have to think about how to get more money so they don't decide to cut salaries the players.

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July 13, 2022, 12:05:34 AM
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'the guardian' and 'telegraph', among others, report that in addition to Serge Gnabry (bayern munich), who has not yet extended his contract in munich, which expires in summer 2023, fc chelsea also have Raphael Leao from italian serie a champions ac milan on their books. the portuguese international's contract is still valid until summer 2024
I would like Arsenal to re-sign Serge Gnabry because Arsenal are the only team that will come to mind when it comes to a move to England. Although Chelsea and Manchester United are interested in signing him, which I am sure will not be a sure deal for the guy, the main issue that may arise in the case of Arsenal is a lack of funds to afford him.
As far as I know arsenal this season has a big enough budget to buy players and even reportedly the arsenal owner has allocated around 215 million pounds for buy player, the problem with arsenal getting gnabry doesn't seem to be money, but from some media what I read, Arteta is not at all interested in bringing Gnabry returned to the Emirates Stadium at this time, currently Arsenal are still looking for a winger to sharpen their attack line but I don't think Gnabry will be reuniting with Arsenal next season.

I really think that Arsenal do have an option to get this player back on the team. Serge Gnabry is a very skilled player and Arsenal is also looking for a Winger. I think it could have been an option to get him back on the team again.

But I really don't think that is possible to happen and, I also don't think that Serge Gnabry is willing to return back to Arsenal. In Bayern Munich, he is expected to win the league title almost every season. He is obviously not eager to risk it by moving to Arsenal because Arsenal will surely not win the English Premier League anytime soon. Arsenal will have to look elsewhere.

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July 13, 2022, 12:16:28 AM
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Due to the financial situation of Barcelona, we would assume with all the transfers that Real Madrid is in a financial crisis, not Barcelona...
When you say that Real Madrid is in a financial crisis, that's not what Barcelona is. I want you to provide clear evidence here so that your assumptions can be proven correct because everyone has the right to assume as long as they can provide clear evidence for everything they assume. So I want to see proof of what you assume because Real Madrid are the champions this season and still have the potential to win next season.

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July 13, 2022, 12:25:40 AM
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Due to the financial situation of Barcelona, we would assume with all the transfers that Real Madrid is in a financial crisis, not Barcelona...
When you say that Real Madrid is in a financial crisis, that's not what Barcelona is. I want you to provide clear evidence here so that your assumptions can be proven correct because everyone has the right to assume as long as they can provide clear evidence for everything they assume. So I want to see proof of what you assume because Real Madrid are the champions this season and still have the potential to win next season.
Just because real madrid didn't have a boombastic transfer move doesn't mean you can assume real madrid are in financial crisis , they are holding a huge amount of money from the champions league prize , they are stacking the money for future transfer .. a breaking record transfer one as they used to , for now there is no rising star available to join them as mbappe snubbed and haaland choose manchester city.

bellingham might be their next transfer target and im pretty sure they would splash the money more than twice on what barcelona doing now.

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July 13, 2022, 12:42:43 AM
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Due to the financial situation of Barcelona, we would assume with all the transfers that Real Madrid is in a financial crisis, not Barcelona...
When you say that Real Madrid is in a financial crisis, that's not what Barcelona is. I want you to provide clear evidence here so that your assumptions can be proven correct because everyone has the right to assume as long as they can provide clear evidence for everything they assume. So I want to see proof of what you assume because Real Madrid are the champions this season and still have the potential to win next season.
Right, give you at least the source that they are in financial trouble.
Honestly, I would like to know what the underlying reason is that the OP concludes that Real Madrid are not doing well in their financial situation. Is it because Real Madrid lacks movement in the transfer market? Or something else. And if we compare with Barcelona, I don't think it needs any further explanation.

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July 13, 2022, 02:26:08 AM
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Luis Suarez next club probably will be outside of Europe because lately River Plate has attempts to get his sign and River Plate manager Marcelo Gallardo has very confident can make Suarez leave Europe and went to Argentina but about this rumours Suarez hasn't respond this because he still on vacation but if he accept River Plate offers Suarez will get 3 millions euro per year and it can be increase to 4 millions euro if River Plate won Copa Libertadores
Luis Suarez seems to still want to stay in Laliga for next season, several La Liga clubs are his next destination after he left Atletico Madrid, such as Sevilla, Real Sociedad and Villareal.

However, some issues that are developing today, Luis Suarez is rumored to have received an offer from River Plate. With his age I think he will look for an easier challenge in every game. Maybe the Argentine league is the best way for him before he chooses to retire.
Well, Luis Suarez is a player who can experiment based on everything he has lived through, I liked the work he did at Barcelona, he took a great experience, I think that when he left Barcelona unfairly, but not before doing that feat with him Barcelona coach at that time, it was for a team that was valued much more, now if River wants it, it's not bad, the Argentine league is very good, you can also have the appreciation of seeing him in the Copa Libertadores de América, which is from very good level and River would be gaining a high caliber player, who I am sure will be valued much more after the World Cup in QATAR since Uruguay plays a great role.

Due to the financial situation of Barcelona, we would assume with all the transfers that Real Madrid is in a financial crisis, not Barcelona...
When you say that Real Madrid is in a financial crisis, that's not what Barcelona is. I want you to provide clear evidence here so that your assumptions can be proven correct because everyone has the right to assume as long as they can provide clear evidence for everything they assume. So I want to see proof of what you assume because Real Madrid are the champions this season and still have the potential to win next season.
Right, give you at least the source that they are in financial trouble.
Honestly, I would like to know what the underlying reason is that the OP concludes that Real Madrid are not doing well in their financial situation. Is it because Real Madrid lacks movement in the transfer market? Or something else. And if we compare with Barcelona, I don't think it needs any further explanation.

Yes, the truth is that it is something very difficult to believe that Real Madrid has financial problems, I think that the hiring they have not done now is because they owe a lot to Benzema, to Modric, they are representative players, they won the UCL and that weighs a lot for a club, I think they can't be so ungrateful. But it is not impossible that they cannot go through a bad time, I think they are not invincible in terms of money, but for now another of the teams that is characterized by having a lot of money is PSG.

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July 13, 2022, 03:26:51 AM
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I believe one of the reasons De Jong chose to stay was because Barcelona are still a team that plays in the Champions League. Manchester United didn't, and that led to Ronaldo asking him to be sold.

In addition, De Jong also strongly feels that Xavi is a coach who will allow him to develop to the maximum at Barcelona and because of that I think he is starting to think about staying at Barcelona. De Jong is an important player in Xavi's scheme of play, so he will probably be guaranteed to play all season unless his form drops.
We can see it, even though Barcelona is in a financial crisis but seeing the potential for success is also not too doubtful. Barcelona still has strengths that can arise at any time, competent young players, a level of intelligence in managing the game, and now can be a turning point for Barcelona to recover. De Jong does have to consider his decision very well. I still have high hopes that next season Barcelona can show significant recovery. This is just a twist to get off to a more profitable start.
De Jong leaving the club for a lot of money would be amazing for Barcelona. It's not going to be good because he is a good player, he is a great one, but that money is needed and he needs to be sold in order to make sure that Barcelona could get more players. If they sell De Jong and use that money to buy 2-3 more players, that would help them a lot. They could sell a few more, like Dembele for example, and could make more money and get some younger players there and basically fix their economic situation.

This is how we should be approaching, otherwise it would not make any sense. There is a debt problem and if they keep doing that then it would not be profitable for them.

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July 13, 2022, 06:00:14 AM
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But in this case the price from Raphinha was clearly not profitable for them. Currently, there are 3 players they really want to bring to Camp Nou, namely Lewandowski, Raphinha and Bernardo Silva, this obviously makes me ask if they really have the money or are they forcing it.
In this case, regardless of who is needed and who is not, it doesn't really matter when they are forced to spend on players.
Right now the high price is clearly an issue of at least 50 million for Lewa, 70 million for Raphinha and around 80 million for B.Silva.
Yep. Raphinha price is expensive, it isn't an ideal player to buy. It should be better if Barcelona extends Dembele's contract. Barcelona doesn't need to pay transfer fees, they only need to focus on negotiating the salary. Dembele is also familiar with Barcelona play style, so he doesn't need to think about adaptation. Anyway, it is necessary to determine which player is needed or not, Barcelona must spend money wisely. Lewandowski 50 million + Bernardo Silva 80 million, it is a huge amount of money. If Barcelona saves the money, it may help their finances.

I saw Fabrizio Romano say that Dembele is rumored to have signed a new two-year contract with Barcelona and of course on a new, lower salary deal.
This is something that is quite good for them even though Dembele's performance has not actually been felt at Barcelona.
They don't seem to care about their current finances, don't know if they feel safe or they really don't care until they see their own graves again.

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July 13, 2022, 06:30:05 AM
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Pogba was sold to Manchester United for a heavy price and regained on a free transfer. If it is linked to business, returning to Juventus on a free transfer is a loss for Manchester United and a benefit for Juventus.
Manchester United's hopes with Pogba have not completely failed, it's not Pogba's fault but it is clear that management must be responsible for the team's poor performance so far. The change of a number of coaches makes the players feel uncomfortable because each coach has a different way of giving the training portion to his players. This makes the players feel unable to give their best and that is why Manchester United's performance has never been as good as expected.

Now Ten Hag has a chance and he can also be fired if he can't change the team better than before. This is what makes it difficult for Manchester United to return to peak performance because their trust in the coach does not last long.
Since Alex Ferguson left, Manchester United has not rediscovered its glorious era, let alone continue the achievements achieved by Alex Ferguson, until now Manchester United has not been able to find the right coach to lead his squad. Manchester United has changed coaches quite often, from Moyes, Mourinho, Van Gaal, Solskjaer to Ralf Rangnick. However, none of them were able to restore the glory of Manchester United as it was when Ferguson was handled. The loss of confidence from the Manchester United players due to being handled by different coaches too often resulted in poor team performances throughout the season, as they always had to start from scratch when a new coach arrived.

Now the big hope is on Ten Hag shoulders, he must restore the players confidence and authority to carry out their duties, because every player needs that to perform optimally on the field.


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July 13, 2022, 06:38:56 AM
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It doesn't look like this will happen, De Jong's purchase will be difficult at a price of 85 million, this is a fairly high price for a player who doesn't have a big name yet, not because Manchester United can't afford it and don't have the money to buy it, but rather the value of a player who has not been proven individually.
This speculation could change, if Barcelona really want to release De Jong, because as far as I know, Barcelona still wants to keep the player next season, the sale clause is only offered if Barcelona is profitable, there is a barter of other players as a substitute and the club's financial benefits

Yesterday i read a statement of De Jong that he definitely wants to stay at FC Barcelona, so if this statement is true then i think that there is almost zero chance that he will go to Manchester United this summer. I also have to say it is pretty weird to see that Manchester United has such a hard time to get the players that they want. I mean ten years ago or so ManU was definitely one of the top 3 clubs world wide while they were still under Alex Ferguson and now it seems they are hardly in the top 10 anymore, which is very weird to me. I think it needs a lot of hard work and also a little bit of luck and also time to get ManU back where they once were.
De Jong has made it clear that he wants to stay at Barcelona for next season, considering playing in the Champions League and still quite comfortable there, since the era of Alex Ferguson's leadership ended, Manchester United lost a coach who could make them strong, so Manchester United's game is no longer like it used to be. , Tenhak's leadership era became a turning point for Manchester United to rise, if the implementation of its own training strategy and style of play, the pre-season tour proved to be quite promising, although not a big size for the pre-season.
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July 13, 2022, 06:50:07 AM
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Good deal for Brazilian, Raphina has accepted deal's with Barcelona already. He should have ended up with Arsenal or Chelsea, but he has always had he's minds on Brazilian. I don't expect too much competition, all they need to do is to hope no injuries avoid you all right.
I think Leeds United response to Raphinha’s transfer is a good one. Mutual respect based on what he has done for the club. They had to respect his dreams and ambitions. Raphinha made it clear that he was absolutely intent on joining Barcelona, scuppering Chelsea’s plans even though they were willing to offer Leeds more money for him. He’s a good addition to Barcelona considering the fact that he became one of the most exciting and dynamic forwards in the Premier League. Scoring 17 goals and 12 assists across all competitions since joining Leeds. He will make name for himself in Barcelona.
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July 13, 2022, 07:04:39 AM
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Good deal for Brazilian, Raphina has accepted deal's with Barcelona already. He should have ended up with Arsenal or Chelsea, but he has always had he's minds on Brazilian. I don't expect too much competition, all they need to do is to hope no injuries avoid you all right.
I think Leeds United response to Raphinha’s transfer is a good one. Mutual respect based on what he has done for the club. They had to respect his dreams and ambitions. Raphinha made it clear that he was absolutely intent on joining Barcelona, scuppering Chelsea’s plans even though they were willing to offer Leeds more money for him. He’s a good addition to Barcelona considering the fact that he became one of the most exciting and dynamic forwards in the Premier League. Scoring 17 goals and 12 assists across all competitions since joining Leeds. He will make name for himself in Barcelona.
I think Rephinha has a good point of view, by joining a big club like Barcelona I'm sure she can show her skills and when successful she can advance her career ladder, it's just that right now she has to try her best to train with several existing teams so that she can form good teamwork when competing in this season.

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July 13, 2022, 07:12:52 AM
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It doesn't look like this will happen, De Jong's purchase will be difficult at a price of 85 million, this is a fairly high price for a player who doesn't have a big name yet, not because Manchester United can't afford it and don't have the money to buy it, but rather the value of a player who has not been proven individually.
This speculation could change, if Barcelona really want to release De Jong, because as far as I know, Barcelona still wants to keep the player next season, the sale clause is only offered if Barcelona is profitable, there is a barter of other players as a substitute and the club's financial benefits
Yesterday i read a statement of De Jong that he definitely wants to stay at FC Barcelona, so if this statement is true then i think that there is almost zero chance that he will go to Manchester United this summer. I also have to say it is pretty weird to see that Manchester United has such a hard time to get the players that they want. I mean ten years ago or so ManU was definitely one of the top 3 clubs world wide while they were still under Alex Ferguson and now it seems they are hardly in the top 10 anymore, which is very weird to me. I think it needs a lot of hard work and also a little bit of luck and also time to get ManU back where they once were.
De Jong has made it clear that he wants to stay at Barcelona for next season, considering playing in the Champions League and still quite comfortable there, since the era of Alex Ferguson's leadership ended, Manchester United lost a coach who could make them strong, so Manchester United's game is no longer like it used to be. , Tenhak's leadership era became a turning point for Manchester United to rise, if the implementation of its own training strategy and style of play, the pre-season tour proved to be quite promising, although not a big size for the pre-season.

First of all, De Jong is very loyal to Barcelona. He has said many times that he does not want to leave Barcelona right now. He is also a very important player for Barcelona. I would be happy if De Jong will play for Barcelona next season.
On the other hand, Manchester United's coach is Ten Hag. It remains to be seen whether he will be able to do well with Manchester United. But United is willing to spend money to strengthen the management team. Yet no star player has been able to add them to the squad in a new way.

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July 13, 2022, 07:21:28 AM
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So, Barcelona decided to go with the Raphinha deal after all. I think he's a really good player - but they are paying a top price for him.
It is a 5-year contract and the transfer is worth around 65 million Euros.

That also means that they did not manage to reach an agreement with Dembele who will leave on a free transfer.

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July 13, 2022, 07:23:00 AM
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De Jong no longer wants Manchester United move as reported. But Manchester United fans are eager to see him with the club. Xavi on the other side has plans for De Jong as he will be part of the Barcelona squad as he chooses to play Champions League football over Europa league. Ajax player Larturo Martinez has he's move for the premier league. Manchester United and Arsenal are the both sides moving for the young talent.

For some people, the decision taken by de Jong is considered to be a stupid decision and for others a brave and emotional decision. I honestly think it is a bit of both. I don't think it is a smart decision taken by him to stay in Barcelona because Barcelona is not going through a good time right now. And if he did move to Manchester United he would have to play in the Europa League, which would have been a downgrade as well.

And in the second part, I think you are talking about the Inter player Lautaro Martínez. And if you're talking about him, he is not making any move anytime soon from Inter.

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July 13, 2022, 07:27:47 AM
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Manchester United are doing all they can to finalize the Frenkie de Jong deal for themselves. They agreed upon the transfer fee as far as I know and they were discussing the add-ons after that. They might really be close to happy ending now. Laporta said before that Frenkie de Jong was still happy to be part of the team. However he doesn't seem like he is opposing to this transfer too. Barcelona are going to have much work to do in case they sell him. On the other hand this transfer is going to help them raise funds significantly too of course.
Manchester United's management continues to try to get Frenkie De Jong, while the Spanish media continue to report that Barcelona will keep De Jong. There is not yet a certainty De Jong will stay or go to England.
From the process of Ousmane Dembele I can say that Barcelona's strategy is quite good at convincing players who want to be retained. Even players are willing to accept all contract clauses even if the salary received is reduced in number.


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July 13, 2022, 07:50:03 AM
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So, Barcelona decided to go with the Raphinha deal after all. I think he's a really good player - but they are paying a top price for him.
It is a 5-year contract and the transfer is worth around 65 million Euros.

That also means that they did not manage to reach an agreement with Dembele who will leave on a free transfer.
This season's transfer market is full of surprises, many big teams have had problems with deals, both bringing in new players and keeping existing players, only a few clubs have managed to make purchases that are quite easy, such as Manchester City, Liverpool and Bayern Munich, the rest are many big clubs who have experienced problems and the complexity of player transfers this season, Barcelona is not only in trouble, there are even rumors that are currently developing, they are currently in financial trouble.

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