⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions

[Ryu_Ar1]

ut when talking about the short term actually it can still be done especially for now Firmino can be brought on a free transfer there.
For at least one season, I think Firmino can still be used while Madrid look for a young striker who can serve as a reference for them as a replacement for Benzema later.
But if indeed this season they still do not find a successor to Benzema I think Firmino can also still be maximized because he is still one of the strikers who is quite smart in my opinion especially as a super sub he can always provide something differentiator at Liverpool.

The speculation surrounding Roberto Firmino's transfer to Real Madrid is still unconfirmed but I don't think Real Madrid needs a striker like Bobby Firmino at the moment. I think Madrid needs a young and sharp striker who can learn from their veteran striker Karim Benzema and succeed him as the club's next no.9.
Firmino is in his 30s and still have two or three more seasons to play football in leagues in Europe but if he finally becomes a Madrid player, he'll certainly do well

I agree with this, but on the other hand we know that Ancelotti sometimes has different ideas and that's been the case for two seasons now because even though Benzema is still very good, they still have problems in attack when he's not there.
Now if they do bring in Firmino at least it could still be better than nothing but on the other hand this is short-term and won't last long.
If they want to find a new successor for the long term, that would be great but it would mean a replacement because Firmino doesn't qualify.

[Huppercase]

I am not sure if Tottenham would really be happy to make a direct competitor in the premier League stronger by letting Harry Kane go to Manchester United. Usually clubs don't want to do that. So if Kane really does not want to stay at Tottenham any longer, then i am pretty sure, that the club would prefer if Kane would leave to a club outside of England, but of course it is also important where the player himself wants to go.
Regarding a move from Kane to Bayern. I think it is still possible, but i think at the moment other strikers like Kolo Muani and Osimhen are the favorites of the Bayern Munich officials. This makes sense in my opinion because both of those players will roughly cost the same as Kane, maybe a little more, but they are both 5 years younger.

Not important about player signing with the rival team depend on expensive offering than other team, from Harry Kane still not clearly rumor he will leave Tottenham Hotspur at the end this season and join with Manchester United. But Harry Kane will not stay forever with Tottenham Hotspur without get any trophy yet and join Manchester United have chance to get one or two trophies later.

Joining to Bayern Munich will get large opportunities with trophy due dominance in domestic league, but depending with Harry Kane decision he want stay and play in Primer League team and prefer for joining with Manchester United next season.

Not only Manchester united, Boely is also determined to sign Kane at any cost, but every player has the right to make their own choices as long as there is no contractual obligation tying them to a particular club. Regarding Kane's loyalty to Tottenham, he has spent his entire career with the club and has never been sold as he is a valuable asset to them. While he has been loaned out to other clubs in the past, since the termination of his loan with Leicester City, he has not been loaned out again. This has allowed him to focus on his performance and contribute significantly to Tottenham's success, leading him to become their highest goal scorer, I doubt if the guy is going to leave anytime soon for another club.

[izsara]

Nagelsmann seems like the biggest candidate for being Chelsea's permanent manager in the summer. Chelsea just chose to postpone their decision about this by bringing Lampard as caretaker. But they will need to make their final decision about who will manage them next season after his time runs out here. Chelsea need to be really careful about their choice this time. They shouldn't choose another Potter I mean.  

The kind of manager they need is an experienced one with big teams. Nagelsmann qualifies for the job as it seems. Because he has a history with Bayern Munich and it isn't a bad history either. Maybe things didn't go just in the way they wanted in the Bundesliga this season but they were still the leader. After his journey there ended I think Chelsea can seriously think of agreeing with him for the job. I like Nagelsmann's style and he can do well with Chelsea too.

It seems that for now Todd has learned a little from his latest mistake so as not to do the same thing at the current coach change by monitoring several coaches at once.
Previously there was the name Luis Enrique and now Nagelsmann is again one of the prospects they think can make Chelsea different next season.
Whatever the result, it will be quite interesting to wait.

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Nagelsmann seems like the biggest candidate for being Chelsea's permanent manager in the summer. Chelsea just chose to postpone their decision about this by bringing Lampard as caretaker. But they will need to make their final decision about who will manage them next season after his time runs out here. Chelsea need to be really careful about their choice this time. They shouldn't choose another Potter I mean.  ;D

The kind of manager they need is an experienced one with big teams. Nagelsmann qualifies for the job as it seems. Because he has a history with Bayern Munich and it isn't a bad history either. Maybe things didn't go just in the way they wanted in the Bundesliga this season but they were still the leader. After his journey there ended I think Chelsea can seriously think of agreeing with him for the job. I like Nagelsmann's style and he can do well with Chelsea too.

They fired Potter as soon as Nagelsmann was fired from Bayern Munich. I thought Chelsea would sign Nagelsmann when these events happened, but I was wrong. However, when I watch Chelsea today, I think whoever is the manager there will fail. They have made many transfers this season, but they still don't have a forward with a high finishing ability. So, I don't know how successful Nagelsmann would be if he took over the club now as coach. I think Chelsea have other pressing needs before the manager.

[Party24*7]

According to some speculations Harry Kane still would rather staying in the Premier League even if he leaves Tottenham. If that is true than really Manchester United can be ahead in the competition to sign him. Because Bayern Munich are also a team interested in him to sign him this summer. It wouldn't be easy for Manchester United to sign him as long as he doesn't have such priority.
Kane can complete Bayern Munich very good as well by the way. The team can go back to their times with Lewandowski. But as long as he doesn't want to play in the Bundesliga it wouldn't happen.

He stayed at Tottenham for many years and worked for Tottenham to win trophies. But Tottenham's curse did not allow it. If he leaves Tottenham, he will most likely leave because he hasn't won a trophy. Everyone knows this. And if he goes to Bayern Munich, he can win trophies there every year. However, if he wants to stay in the English Premier League, he will have chosen the more difficult option. I think everyone should respect his decision. On the other hand, if Manchester United want to have a say in the championship race in the Premier League next season, they must sign a star like Harry Kane.
I think we will continue to talk more about the possibilities of Harry Kane's transfer this year and next year.

Money is going to be a big factor in this transfer. After all, Tottenham is asking for a huge amount of money. That is already going to disqualify a lot of clubs from even thinking about Harry Kane. I’m sure he would like to go to a team like Manchester City or Arsenal's current situation. But they are probably not interested in him.

I don’t know about Arsenal but Manchester City is surely not going to want him right now. Manchester United is a viable option because they are improving. With Harry Kane that improvement might reach another level. And if he wants to play actual competitive football, I believe he should not go to Bayern Munich. It’s better to play in a competitive league instead of playing in a farmers league.

[SquallLeonhart]

But when talking about the short term actually it can still be done especially for now Firmino can be brought on a free transfer there.
For at least one season, I think Firmino can still be used while Madrid look for a young striker who can serve as a reference for them as a replacement for Benzema later.
But if indeed this season they still do not find a successor to Benzema I think Firmino can also still be maximized because he is still one of the strikers who is quite smart in my opinion especially as a super sub he can always provide something differentiator at Liverpool.

With the myriad of achievements he has achieved, several big clubs are interested in asking for his hand. Yes, Real Madrid cannot use Firmino as the spearhead, because a club as big as Real Madrid needs more than that. Recently there have been rumors circulating that Real Madrid has found several potential replacements for Benzema, one of which is Darwin Nunez who is currently in his sights. Reportedly this Liverpool striker has good quality and can continue in the footsteps of Benzema at Real Madrid. Do you have an opinion about Real Madrid's interest in proposing Nunez as a replacement for Benzema?

I think Real could still use him if they want to, not saying that he would be the best player in the team of course, but think about Benzema and how much games he missed, so even if for bench player they could get him as a bench for Benzema.

The trouble would be Firmino accepting such a role, dude could be playing in another team, and I mean like really playing, actually going out and playing every game, so telling him to be benched until Benzema gets injured, booked, or tired, would be a hard thing to get him accepting. So, I guess that he will leave to another team, a team that doesn't have a proper striker. I always thought Napoli would be great after Osimhen is sold, Firmino would be a cheap replacement instead.

[Oluwa-btc]

Actually it can better for Kane's career in terms of titles if he joins Bayern Munich instead of Manchester United. Because I think it is obvious already. Manchester United aren't a team that win even the Premier League title often. They can't guarantee anything about this for Kane as a result. Because it is already very difficult to compete with Manchester City for the title and now Arsenal are also much stronger. We don't even know how much Erik ten Hag can make an improvement in their success in the long run.

But if Kane signs for Bayern Munich then it is like it is nearly guaranteed that he will become champion in the Bundesliga every season. In addition to that the team can be much more competitive for the Champions League title as well. Because Kane can make a similar impact to Lewandowski for them.

I still don't know why Harry Kane is still waiting, this is taking much more longer than I expected, like how do you keep a club like Bayern Munich waiting? You're sure of your Golden ball at the end of the season and also the german bundesliga.
I hope he moves to Bayern Munich and not Manchester United, age is something I don't want to see that'll stop him from playing longer for united. United should get a young forward or that position.

Speculations everywhere about Harry Kane, Victor Oshime but maybe Benjamin Sesko can also come in, Antonio Martial also could do only if he can be very consistent.

[Coyster]

I’m sure he would like to go to a team like Manchester City or Arsenal's current situation. But they are probably not interested in him.

City sought his signature two summer's back, but as always it is always difficult to negotiate with Daniel Levy, thus the talks broke down, and City then went ahead and signed Haaland last summer, and they definitely have nothing to complain about. It is almost impossible for Kane to join Arsenal, they are North London rivals to his current club, talks would hardly ever be productive between the two clubs, if ever started.

Manchester United is a viable option because they are improving. With Harry Kane that improvement might reach another level. And if he wants to play actual competitive football, I believe he should not go to Bayern Munich. It’s better to play in a competitive league instead of playing in a farmers league.

Personally i don't think there's anything wrong with him moving to the Bundesliga with Bayern Munich, but i'd love to see him remain in the EPL, and i am pretty sure he would want to do same, mainly because he is chasing the all time goal scoring record in the EPL and if he stays in the EPL for the entirety of his career, he is going to break Alan Shearer's record of 260 goals. For Manchester United, he would complement their team and make them title contenders, and maybe Kane can then finally get himself a trophy.

[Pokapoka124]

According to some speculations Harry Kane still would rather staying in the Premier League even if he leaves Tottenham. If that is true than really Manchester United can be ahead in the competition to sign him. Because Bayern Munich are also a team interested in him to sign him this summer. It wouldn't be easy for Manchester United to sign him as long as he doesn't have such priority.

Kane can complete Bayern Munich very good as well by the way. The team can go back to their times with Lewandowski. But as long as he doesn't want to play in the Bundesliga it wouldn't happen.

It will be shocking if Harry Kane decides to remain at Tottenham again for the next season with top clubs like Manchester United, Real Madrid and Bayern Munich  interested in having him as their top striker for the coming season. Imagine Kane in Bayern colors, their attack will be formidable and difficult to defend against.

Roberto Firmino has reportedly agreed to join Real Madrid team next season on a free transfer. Yahoo Sports posted an article about it. He should do fairly well in a team that doesn't rely so heavily on an out and out striker. Could get back to his scoring ways along with Real.

Long before now Firmino declared his decision not to extend his contract with Liverpool and wants to leave at the end of the season. Real Madrid will be looking for a young and very sharp attacker and Firmino doesn't match that ability anyone as his overall performances have dropped. In this position I am expecting players like Haaland, Victor Osimhen, who are young and entering their prime to be targeted.

[Avirunes]

It will be shocking if Harry Kane decides to remain at Tottenham again for the next season with top clubs like Manchester United, Real Madrid and Bayern Munich  interested in having him as their top striker for the coming season. Imagine Kane in Bayern colors, their attack will be formidable and difficult to defend against.

I won't be much surprised if he stays actually as he has been there for so long and despite all the proceeds for him by other clubs he still decided to stay at Spurs, so I won't be much surprised even if he sees out his career at Spurs. Besides Kane has still a year left in his contract so I think he atleast is gonna honor the contract unless Spurs agrees to a bid from other club that arrives. Right now imagining Kane in other colors is just not right in my opinion, I mean yeah you can think about it but I find it very far from happening.

[alpamar99]

They fired Potter as soon as Nagelsmann was fired from Bayern Munich. I thought Chelsea would sign Nagelsmann when these events happened, but I was wrong. However, when I watch Chelsea today, I think whoever is the manager there will fail. They have made many transfers this season, but they still don't have a forward with a high finishing ability. So, I don't know how successful Nagelsmann would be if he took over the club now as coach. I think Chelsea have other pressing needs before the manager.

I don't think the condition of Potter being fired has anything to do with Nagelsmann being sacked from Bayern because if it was indeed related then indeed they would immediately take Nagelsmann without seeing Lampard as interim coach first.
On the other hand, when talking about Nagelsmann, it is still possible, only in this case, of course, we also know that there are some rumors about Enrique, even by wanting to make the deal, they even immediately talk about Gavi's character as an encouragement for Enrique.

[kawetsriyanto]

Roberto Firmino has reportedly agreed to join Real Madrid team next season on a free transfer. Yahoo Sports posted an article about it. He should do fairly well in a team that doesn't rely so heavily on an out and out striker. Could get back to his scoring ways along with Real.

It is a good decision if Real Madrid really signs Roberto Firmino as a free agent. He is still 31 years old and still played in a top performance. He will be a great addition to Real Madrid attacking line, they really need a new striker since Benzema more often gets injured. Firmino seems quite suitable with Real Madrid game style, he isn't a lazy striker and he can play in some positions. If Firmino joins Real Madrid, Ancelotti will have more options on the front lines.

Firmino is no longer young but his impressive performances at LFC have saved his team several defeats including the last game against Arsenal, so if that is 100% true maybe he can replace Asensio who has so far not extended his contract at Real Madrid, although Ancelotti expects Asensio to stay in the Madrid~

Firmino won't replace Asensio since they are in different positions. Firmino is a center forward, while Asensio is a winger. I am sure signing Firmino is aimed at the option of Benzema's replacement. So when Benzema gets injured or can't play full-time, Ancelotti has another good striker for the front line. Anyway, I guess Ancelotti will try his best to ensure Asensio stays.

[ILuckyGuyI]

Al-Nassr is aiming to sign one of two candidates for the manager position there. These candidates are Zidane and Mourinho according to rumours.

It is really like nearly impossible in my opinion that they can convince Zidane to go there now. Of course I can't imagine how much money they can offer him but still I don't expect Zidane to choose this way for now. He is intending to manage France national team for now and even if he decides to manage a normal team instead I would expect him to manage PSG for example. When it comes to Mourinho this is realistic to me. Because he is already likely to leave Roma if rumours turn out to be true. I don't think he would refuse a huge offer from Al-Nassr.

[Docnaster]

Nagelsmann seems like the biggest candidate for being Chelsea's permanent manager in the summer. Chelsea just chose to postpone their decision about this by bringing Lampard as caretaker. But they will need to make their final decision about who will manage them next season after his time runs out here. Chelsea need to be really careful about their choice this time. They shouldn't choose another Potter I mean.  

The kind of manager they need is an experienced one with big teams. Nagelsmann qualifies for the job as it seems. Because he has a history with Bayern Munich and it isn't a bad history either. Maybe things didn't go just in the way they wanted in the Bundesliga this season but they were still the leader. After his journey there ended I think Chelsea can seriously think of agreeing with him for the job. I like Nagelsmann's style and he can do well with Chelsea too.

They fired Potter as soon as Nagelsmann was fired from Bayern Munich. I thought Chelsea would sign Nagelsmann when these events happened, but I was wrong. However, when I watch Chelsea today, I think whoever is the manager there will fail. They have made many transfers this season, but they still don't have a forward with a high finishing ability. So, I don't know how successful Nagelsmann would be if he took over the club now as coach. I think Chelsea has other pressing needs before the manager.

Chelsea as it stands will not grow if they continue making a young coach their choices.  Chelsea needs good coach with ears of experience and good record. Lampard, Potter,  and Naggelsman are all in the same league, with just littl thing differentiating Naggelsman from them. From the looks of things, I think the management's choice is Nagglesman but the Fan's choice is Enrigue, and I believe In the Fans choice cuz that's will be best for the team.  Potter was Toed Bollhy's choice, yet he contributed nothing positive to the team. Naggelsmanis good but Enrigue seems favourable.

[Slow death]

It's high time Harry Kane exits Tottenham Hotspur because he's yet to lift a club trophy with the club and he's a lengthy player in the club. Manchester united have the rate to matchup the price tag of the English international, the same thing applies to the Bavarians. Harry Kane Working under different managers with absolute no cup trophy for the club is tragedy. The fans are spotting the critical problem is to be from the board, because there's alot of sketchy things rounding up in the club. Jose Mourinho and Anthonio Conte were the only two managers that spoke out and clear the air about the view of the club, no good chemistry between the players and the club board is corrupt, gambling with game results.

I am not sure if Tottenham would really be happy to make a direct competitor in the premier League stronger by letting Harry Kane go to Manchester United. Usually clubs don't want to do that. So if Kane really does not want to stay at Tottenham any longer, then i am pretty sure, that the club would prefer if Kane would leave to a club outside of England, but of course it is also important where the player himself wants to go.
Regarding a move from Kane to Bayern. I think it is still possible, but i think at the moment other strikers like Kolo Muani and Osimhen are the favorites of the Bayern Munich officials. This makes sense in my opinion because both of those players will roughly cost the same as Kane, maybe a little more, but they are both 5 years younger.

bayern need a great striker, they need a player who becomes the savior of the team, someone who constantly scores goals, that's why they signed sadio mane, but sadio mane isn't even scoring goals normally so i don't see reasons for bayern to keep mane in the team, while bringing Osimhen who is a player who scores a lot of goals, knowing that in bayern he will have good other players who create good opportunities to score goals, so the best choice for bayern would be to buy the Osimhen and sell the healthy mane, with that at least the bayern would not have spent a lot of money since they would have spent a lot of money on the purchase of Osimhen but at the same time when they sold the healthy mane they would recover part of the money they spent on the purchase of Osimhen

about kane, in my opinion kane should go to manchester united if manchester united is interested in him, but he would have to prepare to be on the bench, only if he beats the current players who play at the beginning constantly and that he would also can having a guaranteed place in the starting 11, but without a doubt manchester united would be a better choice for him because he would stay in the premier league and have a better chance of winning something big in the coming years

but if kane was going to play for chelsea then he would have made a worse choice, honestly chelsea is a team that just bought a lot of players, they spent money in an uncontrolled way, they didn't have a concrete objective and plan when buying players and with that chelsea is a disaster, kane wouldn't change much the disaster that chelsea has become, between chelsea and staying at tottenham i think the best choice for him would be to stay at tottenham

Naggelsmanis good but Enrigue seems favourable.

Did you mean Luis Enrique? today I saw news on tv that chelsea is interested in the coach of sporting de portugal rubem amorin, without a doubt that ruben amorin is a good coach and could even be a good option for chelsea, probably the next coach of chelsea could be ruben amorin, i won't be surprised if that happens

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I agree that leaving the hunt for Bellingham makes sense for most teams. It is said that Dortmund wants 130 million for him, considering that would be double what City paid for Haaland (because of release clause) I would say that it is too much. Maybe 90 million at tops? That would make sense, but when you go towards three digits that's where you lose me. Well, it is not three digits per say, it's 8 digits but you know what I mean.

We are talking about a player that is too much heavily dependant on having good players around him, and if you pay 130 million on him without having other stars around him, he will not worth that much. In dortmund he doesn't play like a 130 million guy, but if you put him in liverpool he would, that's why they priced him that way.

the clause that dortmund wants is too expensive and it will make a large number of clubs who want to sign him think twice before sending a proposal for them. indeed he has quite good quality but the price is very expensive for a team that wants to target him in the transfer window.

I think both Real Madrid or Liverpool are rumored to be teams that are very interested in bringing in Bellingham in the transfer window later. In my opinion if Bellingham goes to Spain he will go to Real Madrid and vice versa if he wants EPL then Liverpool is the goal.

[baeva]

Actually it can better for Kane's career in terms of titles if he joins Bayern Munich instead of Manchester United. Because I think it is obvious already. Manchester United aren't a team that win even the Premier League title often. They can't guarantee anything about this for Kane as a result. Because it is already very difficult to compete with Manchester City for the title and now Arsenal are also much stronger. We don't even know how much Erik ten Hag can make an improvement in their success in the long run.

But if Kane signs for Bayern Munich then it is like it is nearly guaranteed that he will become champion in the Bundesliga every season. In addition to that the team can be much more competitive for the Champions League title as well. Because Kane can make a similar impact to Lewandowski for them.

I still don't know why Harry Kane is still waiting, this is taking much more longer than I expected, like how do you keep a club like Bayern Munich waiting? You're sure of your Golden ball at the end of the season and also the german bundesliga.
I hope he moves to Bayern Munich and not Manchester United, age is something I don't want to see that'll stop him from playing longer for united. United should get a young forward or that position.

Speculations everywhere about Harry Kane, Victor Oshime but maybe Benjamin Sesko can also come in, Antonio Martial also could do only if he can be very consistent.

Of course I'm also perplexed, but in fact there may be more factors in why he doesn't give an answer than we think. Everything can start with a trivial salary, maybe he is not satisfied with it, although when it comes to potential team trophies when you're not young, then of course it makes no sense to choose a club, you have to choose one that breaks everyone.

[Awaklara]

I agree that leaving the hunt for Bellingham makes sense for most teams. It is said that Dortmund wants 130 million for him, considering that would be double what City paid for Haaland (because of release clause) I would say that it is too much. Maybe 90 million at tops? That would make sense, but when you go towards three digits that's where you lose me. Well, it is not three digits per say, it's 8 digits but you know what I mean.

We are talking about a player that is too much heavily dependant on having good players around him, and if you pay 130 million on him without having other stars around him, he will not worth that much. In dortmund he doesn't play like a 130 million guy, but if you put him in liverpool he would, that's why they priced him that way.

the clause that dortmund wants is too expensive and it will make a large number of clubs who want to sign him think twice before sending a proposal for them. indeed he has quite good quality but the price is very expensive for a team that wants to target him in the transfer window.

I think both Real Madrid or Liverpool are rumored to be teams that are very interested in bringing in Bellingham in the transfer window later. In my opinion if Bellingham goes to Spain he will go to Real Madrid and vice versa if he wants EPL then Liverpool is the goal.

Liverpool has been rumored to have withdrawn from the hunt for Bellingham. The price reason was the trigger for Liverpool's withdrawal. this time it looks like Dortmund will lower their price tag with a well-deserved team deal. Dortmund has done this business very well. they know how to profit from every transfer window when their players will get to an extraordinary stage in the Bundesliga.
now Man City is reportedly very ambitious to bring in Bellingham. City is also a decent club for Bellingham. I think his potential in the squad will be even better with a more competitive Premier League competition.

[sokani]

Actually it can better for Kane's career in terms of titles if he joins Bayern Munich instead of Manchester United. Because I think it is obvious already. Manchester United aren't a team that win even the Premier League title often. They can't guarantee anything about this for Kane as a result. Because it is already very difficult to compete with Manchester City for the title and now Arsenal are also much stronger. We don't even know how much Erik ten Hag can make an improvement in their success in the long run.

But if Kane signs for Bayern Munich then it is like it is nearly guaranteed that he will become champion in the Bundesliga every season. In addition to that the team can be much more competitive for the Champions League title as well. Because Kane can make a similar impact to Lewandowski for them.

I still don't know why Harry Kane is still waiting, this is taking much more longer than I expected, like how do you keep a club like Bayern Munich waiting? You're sure of your Golden ball at the end of the season and also the german bundesliga.
I hope he moves to Bayern Munich and not Manchester United, age is something I don't want to see that'll stop him from playing longer for united. United should get a young forward or that position.

Speculations everywhere about Harry Kane, Victor Oshime but maybe Benjamin Sesko can also come in, Antonio Martial also could do only if he can be very consistent.

Most English players don't like plying their trades abroad so I won't be surprised if Kane did not make the move to Bayern at the end of the day. But the truth be told, I don't know what's still keeping Harry Kane at Tottenham Hotspur, he's already a club legend and the highest goal scorer for the club. At the end of his career it's the number of trophies he won that would really matter and he can't achieve that with Spurs but trophies are what Bayern Munich can give to him.

[judas]

I've heard that Chelsea are planning another move for Raphinha in the summer. You know how Barcelona joined the race for signing him and stole him from Chelsea's hands as well. Chelsea must be planning a retaliation but I don't know about this. Because it seems like a far possibility for me to see him leaving Barcelona for Chelsea now. It wouldn't be better for him to join a team that won't be a part of the Champions League next season.

Barcelona have been unsuccessful in the Champions League recently maybe but they can still improve this by next season. Besides they are about to declare their La Liga title soon. Raphinha has no problem with finding so many chances to play as well so he would prefer to stay I guess.