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December 25, 2023, 05:56:28 AM
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I get why you're mad at Ten Hag, but I don't think we should fire him just yet. Take a look at the bigger view. People like Pep Guardiola and Jurgen Klopp didn't have great first seasons in the Premier League, but look at where they are now. It means giving the boss time to come up with a plan. Who are the most likely replacements to be available? Zidane is not likely. Guardiola is more interested in the national team than Hansi Flick. He's not going to leave City for United. We need to face the facts about what's going on. United has more problems than just the boss. It's about how the club is set up as a whole. Yes, let's see what Ten Hag can do with a full season and the chance to make moves in the summer.
The thing is, Ten Hag didn't make a new regeneration.

The new players that he sign and actively playing are Martinez, Hojlund, Mount and Antony, while the rest are old players. Both of the old and new players performance aren't good, so that's why we don't see any improvement in Manchester United.

Unlike Manchester City, the old players can still able to back up the new players e.g. Nunes, Gvardiol, and Doku.

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December 25, 2023, 06:00:02 AM
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After getting approval from De Laurentiis the owner of Napoli it seems another effective player is going to leave Napoli soon.
Elif Elmas is the player of Napoli who had an effective role in this team during the time when Spalletti was working there and he had good performance in this team but recently and after Spalletti left the team they didn't use this player a lot and that is why they decided to sell this player to Leipzig.
In this transfer, Napoli will learn around 25 million euros and De Laurentiis about this transfer said they are selling a gem.
I do not know if that's worth it or not. I mean he was great, and they misused him and now they are selling him. This is great for Leipzig and great for Elmas, it benefits them all and I do agree that it is going to be fine, but that doesn't mean that it would benefit Napoli at all, it could maybe not really help them at all. We should be considering the situation a little different, and for that it could mean a lot eventually. Life is not all that simple and we need to make it work somehow to make it work.

Elmas being sold for 25 million means that Napoli will need to spend that money to replace him, not that they can't, they were the ones who found him anyway, so they can find another one, but there is no guarantee of that at all.

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December 25, 2023, 06:28:06 AM
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This is some very interesting scenario that I would like to see become true - Zidane as the coach of a team that is not fully developed. But yes, he wouldn't do it. However, I think developing a team is what really makes a great coach. I never really knew what to think of Zidane. Guardiola and Klopp both introduced a very unique style to the game, Zidane didn't really do that and neither did Enrique. Mourinho once did it as well although I am not a fan of his style.

Hansi Flick actually won 6 titles in 8 months. Bundesliga, DFB Cup, Champions League, German Supercup, UEFA Super Cup and the FIFA Club World Cup. That was impressive of course. So I think as you said judging based on what was going on with the national team would not be appropriate. But I am not fully convinced that he is the right man for this. When he came to Bayern, he really didn't have a lot to lose, but only to win. His second season didn't go very well. But from the ones we mentioned here, Flick might be the closest match.

I regard Luis Enrique a lot he was able to manage the likes of the hottest trio that year as they went ahead to win the treble that year. Same with Zidane who also managed the star players within Real Madrid then to win back to back Champions League. They had special players so they was able to do it.

Josep Pep Guardiola, Jurgen Klopp and Jose Mourinho are my men. Taking them place right now has got to be Xavi Hernandez even of he's having challenges and Xabi Alonso. They'll replace this coaches in the next decade.

Good facts and your checks well alligned. He'll have to adapt in the Premier League Competition amd that another year to see a new coach implement trials and errors. We be only suggesting and giving our own opinions, we not the board and management of Manchester United to make this implements.

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December 25, 2023, 07:39:18 AM
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I regard Luis Enrique a lot he was able to manage the likes of the hottest trio that year as they went ahead to win the treble that year. Same with Zidane who also managed the star players within Real Madrid then to win back to back Champions League. They had special players so they was able to do it.

Josep Pep Guardiola, Jurgen Klopp and Jose Mourinho are my men. Taking them place right now has got to be Xavi Hernandez even of he's having challenges and Xabi Alonso. They'll replace this coaches in the next decade.

Good facts and your checks well alligned. He'll have to adapt in the Premier League Competition amd that another year to see a new coach implement trials and errors. We be only suggesting and giving our own opinions, we not the board and management of Manchester United to make this implements.

I am not a big fan of Luis Enrique, but I am fine you have that opinion. That is why I said that it's really difficult to judge coaches who were lucky enough to get teams that were fully developed and ready to win it all. I would like to see all those coaches take responsibility for a team that is not yet ready or in deep trouble. Klopp was successful with Dortmund and that was not easy. Mourinho won two huge Champions League titles with Porto and Inter Milan. Guardiola had only good teams, but somehow he is very unique and a stickler for details like nobody else.

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December 25, 2023, 07:53:23 AM
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If Claudio Echeverri goes to Chelsea or Barcelona, I think his career will be destroyed in an instant and his name will disappear. The release clause is currently priced at 25 million euros and that is an easy matter for Manchester City. Currently Manchester City is trying to reach an agreement and we'll just have to wait and see whether he will land at Manchester City or not.

Claudio Echeverri is better off in Manchester City, the future is clear, the club's finances are also clearly different from Barcelona, which has a lot of debt, in Manchester City there is also his senior at River Plate and the Argentine national team, Alvarez, who can guide him, whose position is the same as an attacker. who can become a mentor to hone skills and adapt to the environment.
Unlike Barcelona since messi out there has been no qualified striker from Argentina who joined Barcelona.

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December 25, 2023, 08:22:18 AM
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I get why you're mad at Ten Hag, but I don't think we should fire him just yet. Take a look at the bigger view. People like Pep Guardiola and Jurgen Klopp didn't have great first seasons in the Premier League, but look at where they are now. It means giving the boss time to come up with a plan. Who are the most likely replacements to be available? Zidane is not likely. Guardiola is more interested in the national team than Hansi Flick. He's not going to leave City for United. We need to face the facts about what's going on. United has more problems than just the boss. It's about how the club is set up as a whole. Yes, let's see what Ten Hag can do with a full season and the chance to make moves in the summer.
The thing is, Ten Hag didn't make a new regeneration.

The new players that he sign and actively playing are Martinez, Hojlund, Mount and Antony, while the rest are old players. Both of the old and new players performance aren't good, so that's why we don't see any improvement in Manchester United.

Unlike Manchester City, the old players can still able to back up the new players e.g. Nunes, Gvardiol, and Doku.
Unlike the two managers you made mention of, this is not Erik Ten Hag's first season as a Manchester United manager. He even had a better season in his first season with Manchester United than he's currently  doing in his second season at the club. He shown that he lacks what it takes to succeed in Manchester United as a manager as he's been absolutely clueless of the best approach to improve the team's performance and bring them back to winning ways again.

I'm surprised that at this time of the season,  Erik Ten Hag is still  managing Manchester United because he doesn't deserve to be there if you ask me.  The club I think should go for another  world class manager who can significantly improve the performance 9f the team. There are lot of managers in Europe that can revive Manchester United's footballing strength but the best among the available ones at the moment I think is Zinedine Zidane who is currently without a job. His record in his two managerial reigns at Real Madrid suggests that he can perfectly return the club back to the league of Europe's elite teams if given the chance

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December 25, 2023, 08:34:11 AM
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The Manchester teams and Liverpool are all targeting to sign Joshua Kimmich as it seems. He has less than 2 years left on his contract at the moment. I wonder when Bayern Munich are planning to make a contract extension offer to him. Because I believe he is still one of the most important players of the team. He is a critical player in the midfield.

His current market value is 75 million euros by the way. I don't think Bayern Munich would drop down from this level. Are those teams really willing to sign him still? Especially Manchester United would make use of a solid defensive midfielder transfer while their defense is in bad shape.

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December 25, 2023, 08:35:04 AM
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Unlike the two managers you made mention of, this is not Erik Ten Hag's first season as a Manchester United manager. He even had a better season in his first season with Manchester United than he's currently  doing in his second season at the club. He shown that he lacks what it takes to succeed in Manchester United as a manager as he's been absolutely clueless of the best approach to improve the team's performance and bring them back to winning ways again.

I'm surprised that at this time of the season,  Erik Ten Hag is still  managing Manchester United because he doesn't deserve to be there if you ask me.  The club I think should go for another  world class manager who can significantly improve the performance 9f the team. There are lot of managers in Europe that can revive Manchester United's footballing strength but the best among the available ones at the moment I think is Zinedine Zidane who is currently without a job. His record in his two managerial reigns at Real Madrid suggests that he can perfectly return the club back to the league of Europe's elite teams if given the chance
Actually I would agree if Manchester United could replace Erik Ten Hag with Zidane but this would be very difficult because Zidane is a very experienced coach, he would like to serve as coach at a club if the club doesn't have any serious problems because Zidane only wants to be a coach for a club that be fine and bring the club to achieve the desired title.
MU's reputation is currently in a bad state since Erik Ten Hag was unable to improve the club's performance. Most people are disappointed and always criticize this club badly. Even a player who is about to be brought in is still thinking long term if he wants to accept the offer, especially a coach like Zidane. definitely wouldn't want to be a coach there.
We'll see that previously Zidane was given an offer from PSG but was rejected, while PSG didn't have any problems, but in depth there were problems regarding Mbappe's contract at that time so Zidane rejected it.
What Manchester United has to do this time is to focus on its players and improve their players' performance or else their coach could be replaced by a new coach.

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December 25, 2023, 10:26:40 AM
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Source: https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1738900819326476509

The January transfer window will soon open and Manchester City have found their next target player and he is River Plate's striker, Claudio Echeverri. As previously circulated, rumors about this player were on the table for three teams, apart from Manchester City, there were Chelsea and Barcelona. But overall, if a player is young like him then the right choice is to join Manchester City. Apart from having a good career, he can also gain experience including winning titles and a commensurate salary.

If Claudio Echeverri goes to Chelsea or Barcelona, I think his career will be destroyed in an instant and his name will disappear. The release clause is currently priced at 25 million euros and that is an easy matter for Manchester City. Currently Manchester City is trying to reach an agreement and we'll just have to wait and see whether he will land at Manchester City or not.

I have to disagree with you there because, in Barcelona, I believe he will develop the most. Barcelona has a very good academy system and young player develop their younger players. Pedri, Gavi are some of the best young prospects in the world right now. As for Chelsea, I would agree with you.

On the other hand, Manchester City has a history of destroying a few player’s careers. We can see how Kalvin Phillips is doing. He was bought into the team for doing nothing. It almost seems as if City bought them just to not play against them. If someone had asked me where should a young player full of potential join? My answer would be Barcelona any day.
The problem is that Claudio Echeverri is not a genuine product of La Masia, so I say that if he joins Barcelona in the future. I also understand that Barcelona is a place for young players who have successfully developed through their academy and players like Gavi and Pedri are just a few of the many players they have developed.

Moreover, Barcelona will not be able to bring in Claudio Echeverri because of FFP problems and this has been confirmed through a report post from Fabrizio Romano. For Kalvin Philips, he came at the wrong time because there was already a better player in his position, namely Rodri. I'm not saying that Kalvin Philips is bad and he is indeed a good player but he is currently not really needed by Manchester City.

Barcelona is only good as a forum for young players and with the financial problems they currently have, of course even young players who want to join will consider their options. Now young players have to be much more realistic and not only chase titles but their future is also something to take into account. It is impossible for them to give up their careers just to make a club happy and will get a small wage to play for a big club unless these young players are willing to give it all up and defend the club they love without any strings attached.
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December 25, 2023, 10:29:35 AM
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Actually I would agree if Manchester United could replace Erik Ten Hag with Zidane but this would be very difficult because Zidane is a very experienced coach, he would like to serve as coach at a club if the club doesn't have any serious problems because Zidane only wants to be a coach for a club that be fine and bring the club to achieve the desired title.
MU's reputation is currently in a bad state since Erik Ten Hag was unable to improve the club's performance. Most people are disappointed and always criticize this club badly. Even a player who is about to be brought in is still thinking long term if he wants to accept the offer, especially a coach like Zidane. definitely wouldn't want to be a coach there.
We'll see that previously Zidane was given an offer from PSG but was rejected, while PSG didn't have any problems, but in depth there were problems regarding Mbappe's contract at that time so Zidane rejected it.
What Manchester United has to do this time is to focus on its players and improve their players' performance or else their coach could be replaced by a new coach.
I'm curious why Zidane is so detailed in choosing a club, because based on not wanting any problems, I think Zidane is selfish. What I mean by selfishness is because problems will always exist in small and large clubs, even though a stable financial condition does not mean that a club does not have problems in its camp. So I think Zidane is more likely to shy away than accept the challenge of positioning himself as a great coach. Because what I know is that a great coach is a coach who is able to solve problems in a club so that it brings change for the better. Try to find a truly perfect club without any problems. I guarantee you will never find this club.  Cool

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December 25, 2023, 10:57:27 AM
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I'm curious why Zidane is so detailed in choosing a club, because based on not wanting any problems, I think Zidane is selfish. What I mean by selfishness is because problems will always exist in small and large clubs, even though a stable financial condition does not mean that a club does not have problems in its camp. So I think Zidane is more likely to shy away than accept the challenge of positioning himself as a great coach. Because what I know is that a great coach is a coach who is able to solve problems in a club so that it brings change for the better. Try to find a truly perfect club without any problems. I guarantee you will never find this club.  Cool
It's a choice that Zidane still holds and I don't think it's about  selfishness but commitment.
He is always careful in choosing a club and this is the way he continues to maintain his image as a coach who is taken into account  rather than just choosing a job that is ultimately detrimental to himself so it would be better if he was more selective and that is still proving to be very good now.
Instead of saying he's selfish Id rather say that Zidane is one of those coaches who is pretty good at keeping the commitments hes held over the years whether its as a coach or as a player.

On the other hand he has always emphasized that he will not be in the EPL and that is not selfish but a choice he has made so it is ridiculous when EPL clubs continue to force the will for Zidane to coach there which is unlikely and a waste of time. It's not about money and resources but I see that sia only wants to coach where he will benefit in terms of performance and the career he has built so neatly is not destroyed. 

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December 25, 2023, 11:29:07 AM
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I'm curious why Zidane is so detailed in choosing a club, because based on not wanting any problems, I think Zidane is selfish. What I mean by selfishness is because problems will always exist in small and large clubs, even though a stable financial condition does not mean that a club does not have problems in its camp. So I think Zidane is more likely to shy away than accept the challenge of positioning himself as a great coach. Because what I know is that a great coach is a coach who is able to solve problems in a club so that it brings change for the better. Try to find a truly perfect club without any problems. I guarantee you will never find this club.  Cool
Last rumor, Zidane not interested yet to be club manager and prefer waiting opportunity with national team manager, before France football federation or Fédération Française de Football extend Didier Deschamps have rumor Zidane will fill France national team manager. Have many clubs interested for recruiting Zidane to be manager from PSG until Manchester United but looks he not interested yet return back to be club manager until right now and have been more than three season without club.

Real Madrid still not announce their new manager for season 2024/25 after Carlo Ancelotti becoming Brazil head coach, will Zidane want return back to Madrid or he want get challenge become Premier League teams manager with Manchester United likely need new manager.


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December 25, 2023, 12:31:20 PM
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Unlike the two managers you made mention of, this is not Erik Ten Hag's first season as a Manchester United manager. He even had a better season in his first season with Manchester United than he's currently  doing in his second season at the club. He shown that he lacks what it takes to succeed in Manchester United as a manager as he's been absolutely clueless of the best approach to improve the team's performance and bring them back to winning ways again.

I'm surprised that at this time of the season,  Erik Ten Hag is still  managing Manchester United because he doesn't deserve to be there if you ask me.  The club I think should go for another  world class manager who can significantly improve the performance 9f the team. There are lot of managers in Europe that can revive Manchester United's footballing strength but the best among the available ones at the moment I think is Zinedine Zidane who is currently without a job. His record in his two managerial reigns at Real Madrid suggests that he can perfectly return the club back to the league of Europe's elite teams if given the chance
Actually I would agree if Manchester United could replace Erik Ten Hag with Zidane but this would be very difficult because Zidane is a very experienced coach, he would like to serve as coach at a club if the club doesn't have any serious problems because Zidane only wants to be a coach for a club that be fine and bring the club to achieve the desired title.
MU's reputation is currently in a bad state since Erik Ten Hag was unable to improve the club's performance. Most people are disappointed and always criticize this club badly. Even a player who is about to be brought in is still thinking long term if he wants to accept the offer, especially a coach like Zidane. definitely wouldn't want to be a coach there.
We'll see that previously Zidane was given an offer from PSG but was rejected, while PSG didn't have any problems, but in depth there were problems regarding Mbappe's contract at that time so Zidane rejected it.
What Manchester United has to do this time is to focus on its players and improve their players' performance or else their coach could be replaced by a new coach.
Actually, Zinedine Zidane is not unemployed. Currently, he still does not want to accept invitations from any clubs. We have not yet determined whether he wants to return as a coach. Yes, he is suitable to replace Erik Ten Hag. But I don't think he was so risky that he would foolishly accept this invitation. Because he is a wise man, he will choose a strong club instead of reviving a declining club. If he is not successful, his reputation will still be criticized. What made Zidane return to the role of coach is undoubtedly the position of head coach of the French team.
MU can spend large amounts of money with a reasonable invitation. I believe these coaching names can also help MU revive from the abyss: Coach Xabi Alonso and Coach Michel.

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December 25, 2023, 12:35:48 PM
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Another update regarding cancelo's future in the barcelona. It seems barcelona is feeling so hard to make him as a permanent transfer caused by cancelo's price is very high and barcelona may not be willing to make him permanent due to the financial trouble.
I can understand it but since cancelo's contributed a lot to the club and he was really fit to the barcelona's gameplay and the blaugrana needs to consider him to be a permanent transfer. It was cosing a lot of money but since cancelo has been showing his contribution to the club and why not?
It's far better rather than randomly gambling to buy the new player that may not also perform as good as him. This is the main problem owned by him. Barcelona is still performing so badly this time. Yet the club needs to sell some players which will make it even worst.
Barcelona may not have same strength as before.

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Barcelona will have to pay over €30 million (£26m/$33m) to Manchester City if they want to sign Joao Cancelo permanently next season.
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In fact, barcelona is trying so hard to rely on xavi to rebuild the club again once some players will be out from the club. This is caused by barcelona has no money to buy more players.

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The hunt for young players from Brazil has now become a trend and this time it is PSG's turn to succeed in getting a five-year contract agreement with Lucas Beraldo. He is still 20 years young and is an important central defender for the Sau Paulo team. Lucas Beraldo will immediately undergo a medical test this week and he will soon be announced as PSG's new recruit in January.

It seems that PSG has started to get rid of the habit of spending on star players and this time is trying to put hope and trust in talented young players. I think this is the right step and instead of spending too much money on one player, it is better for them to make a clear investment in young players. Well, this is also a regeneration step for PSG's defense and I hope Lucas Beraldo's career will continue to shine with PSG.

Source: https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1739264729904742472
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December 25, 2023, 01:07:51 PM
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It's a choice that Zidane still holds and I don't think it's about  selfishness but commitment.
He is always careful in choosing a club and this is the way he continues to maintain his image as a coach who is taken into account  rather than just choosing a job that is ultimately detrimental to himself so it would be better if he was more selective and that is still proving to be very good now.
Instead of saying he's selfish Id rather say that Zidane is one of those coaches who is pretty good at keeping the commitments hes held over the years whether its as a coach or as a player.

On the other hand he has always emphasized that he will not be in the EPL and that is not selfish but a choice he has made so it is ridiculous when EPL clubs continue to force the will for Zidane to coach there which is unlikely and a waste of time. It's not about money and resources but I see that sia only wants to coach where he will benefit in terms of performance and the career he has built so neatly is not destroyed. 
Zidane is one coach that understands class and class doesn’t just come with winning trophies but also with maintaining standards. Because the pay is mouthwatering and good doesn’t mean he has to run and chase them, after running therein and the club flops, what happens to his career? All in jeopardy, therefore I doubt if he'll coach in the EPL.

This I’ll call commitment and class. He prefers to maintain his standard than get involved in a shitty system. Zizou knows the EPL is one hell of a league and has still stood his ground on not wanting to coach there. And I don’t see him changing that stand soon more especially for his footballing and coaching career, well I think he might decide to coach at PSG if Lius Enrique fails to deliver and gets sacked, or better still go back to coaching Madrid after Ancelotti leaves.
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December 25, 2023, 01:18:15 PM
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Real Madrid still not announce their new manager for season 2024/25 after Carlo Ancelotti becoming Brazil head coach, will Zidane want return back to Madrid or he want get challenge become Premier League teams manager with Manchester United likely need new manager.
Hmmm, that is interesting, mate. I think Zidane will never go back to Real Madrid because now real Madrid have no more players, which Zidane need it.In order for a manager to run a club, according to his understanding, players are required, and if we look currently, Real Madrid doesn't have a single player who can play according to Zidane's standards. So therefore, I believed that Zidane would never go back to Real Madrid, and neither would he express his desire to go to Manchester United, because currently there are only players from France who can give performances to Zidane according to his tactics, i.e., counter attack + fast build-up crosses. Which is Zidane's favorite play?

I think there are only rumors about Manchester United, I have not received any official news, but let's see what happens next, whether he really goes to Manchester or accepts the France national team as a coach.


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December 25, 2023, 01:29:24 PM
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I get why you're mad at Ten Hag, but I don't think we should fire him just yet. Take a look at the bigger view. People like Pep Guardiola and Jurgen Klopp didn't have great first seasons in the Premier League, but look at where they are now. It means giving the boss time to come up with a plan. Who are the most likely replacements to be available? Zidane is not likely. Guardiola is more interested in the national team than Hansi Flick. He's not going to leave City for United. We need to face the facts about what's going on. United has more problems than just the boss. It's about how the club is set up as a whole. Yes, let's see what Ten Hag can do with a full season and the chance to make moves in the summer.
The thing is, Ten Hag didn't make a new regeneration.

The new players that he sign and actively playing are Martinez, Hojlund, Mount and Antony, while the rest are old players. Both of the old and new players performance aren't good, so that's why we don't see any improvement in Manchester United.

Unlike Manchester City, the old players can still able to back up the new players e.g. Nunes, Gvardiol, and Doku.
Unlike the two managers you made mention of, this is not Erik Ten Hag's first season as a Manchester United manager. He even had a better season in his first season with Manchester United than he's currently  doing in his second season at the club. He shown that he lacks what it takes to succeed in Manchester United as a manager as he's been absolutely clueless of the best approach to improve the team's performance and bring them back to winning ways again.

I'm surprised that at this time of the season,  Erik Ten Hag is still  managing Manchester United because he doesn't deserve to be there if you ask me.  The club I think should go for another  world class manager who can significantly improve the performance 9f the team. There are lot of managers in Europe that can revive Manchester United's footballing strength but the best among the available ones at the moment I think is Zinedine Zidane who is currently without a job. His record in his two managerial reigns at Real Madrid suggests that he can perfectly return the club back to the league of Europe's elite teams if given the chance
Before becoming Man United's coach, Ten Hag was one of the dream coaches that Man United wanted because at that time Ten Hag was a good coach in the eyes of Man United and it cannot be denied that Ten Hag did have some good achievements with Ajax. However, it is clear that there is a difference in quality between the Eredivisie and the Premier League, so it is not a surprise if Ten Hag ultimately does not seem to shine when managing Man United because what is certain is that he has no experience in the Premier League at all.

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December 25, 2023, 01:39:54 PM
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How can you say a young player's career would be ruined if he goes to Barcelona? The same Barcelona that have seen so many young players develop out from? C'mon!!. I don't think there's any single big club in Europe that will develop a young player more than Barcelona.
You say Manchester City will help him develop better, that's true only because of tge coachbtgey have now. How many young players did Manchester City produce or nurture till they became world class and the best in their positions before Pep Guadiola? And even with Guadiola, the only young boys I've seen that are convincing are Foden and Alvarez.
With Manchester City it's the coach, but with Barcelona it's their system, no matter the coach. A coach that doesn't know how to handle young talents very well doesn't succeed in Barcelona.

He is not far from saying the truth, didn't Ansu  get promoted Barcelona Atletic to main Barcelona squad, there were many PR for that boy because of his potential and age, he is just 21 years old but what happened later, he was loan out to Brighton and guess what, they don't use him frequently like the way other people are used by the club, I have almost forget about him if not for this your comment. This is not the only dream Barcelona has killed, if Neymar was given the proper PR, he might even sitting next to Messi but all credit always go to Messi alone all the time.

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I may agree that currently, looking at the situations and projects of all the clubs interested in Claudio Echeverri, Manchester City is the best option, but saying they're the best because his young talent would be wasted in Barcelona is not true.

Football doesn't work the way we think sometimes, because you want a player to how here doesn't mean he will succeed over there and if he does, it possible that his pay check might be little to him or probably the club might not even want him for some reason. Osimhen come to mind for Chelsea people that are angry for his choice of Napoli, he knows what we don't see and that's the same for other players decisions.

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December 25, 2023, 01:42:52 PM
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It's a choice that Zidane still holds and I don't think it's about  selfishness but commitment.
He is always careful in choosing a club and this is the way he continues to maintain his image as a coach who is taken into account  rather than just choosing a job that is ultimately detrimental to himself so it would be better if he was more selective and that is still proving to be very good now.
Instead of saying he's selfish Id rather say that Zidane is one of those coaches who is pretty good at keeping the commitments hes held over the years whether its as a coach or as a player.

On the other hand he has always emphasized that he will not be in the EPL and that is not selfish but a choice he has made so it is ridiculous when EPL clubs continue to force the will for Zidane to coach there which is unlikely and a waste of time. It's not about money and resources but I see that sia only wants to coach where he will benefit in terms of performance and the career he has built so neatly is not destroyed. 
Zidane is one coach that understands class and class doesn’t just come with winning trophies but also with maintaining standards. Because the pay is mouthwatering and good doesn’t mean he has to run and chase them, after running therein and the club flops, what happens to his career? All in jeopardy, therefore I doubt if he'll coach in the EPL.

This I’ll call commitment and class. He prefers to maintain his standard than get involved in a shitty system. Zizou knows the EPL is one hell of a league and has still stood his ground on not wanting to coach there. And I don’t see him changing that stand soon more especially for his footballing and coaching career, well I think he might decide to coach at PSG if Lius Enrique fails to deliver and gets sacked, or better still go back to coaching Madrid after Ancelotti leaves.
It's the same as what I said when it comes to commitment and it's important because he's already set his standards, so why would he push himself for big money if he's going to ruin his career in an instant. Zidane does not want that because in addition to money there must be guarantees that he will get to be at a certain club because if it was money that was sought then PSG would have already taken him because several times Zidane was approached with big money just to train PSG but he continued to reject it.
There are many examples of some coaches who immediately lost their standards because they chose a club that was not very appropriate. We take the most recent example perhaps Potter at Chelsea. Honestly when at Brighton I was one of the people who liked Potter's leadership style for a club and his career was ruined after he tried his luck at Chelsea. Zidane doesn't want to do something like that because if you look at Zidane's leadership style when in Madrid we know that he is one of the coaches who is quite ambitious when pursuing a target so he will not choose a club whose progress is low just because of the offer of money.

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