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1@45
Getting mighty rich in here, but I'll take a punt.
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April 29, 2013, 05:37:24 PM |
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1@43 cancel current bid 1@41
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Name Quantity Price (฿) Caesium 5 45 kibblesnbits 1 45 samyrp 2 45 swaits 1 45 phiz 1 45 Hiroaki 1 44.5 ok 1 44 Fury! 1 44 desired_username 4 44 Lucky - Luciano 1 43.5 win07 1 43.5 lan787 1 43 LainZ 1 43 tccd 2 43 starsoccer9 1 43 Aajo 1 43 Hiroaki 1 42.5 psjw4450 4 42.5 caoxg 1 42.5 BitMagnet 1 42.5 FlappySocks 1 42.5 hashman 3 42 Omen1855 1 42 simtel12 1 42 cchan 1 42 puexam 1 42 drawingthesun 1 42 CJPOLO 1 41.5 Hiroaki 1 41.5 Omen1855 1 41.5 slastar 2 41.5 Ajay 2 41.5 drlatino999 2 41.5
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April 29, 2013, 05:38:54 PM |
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Name | Quantity | Price (฿) | Remaining | BTC Count | Updated to post 638 | <- seldom updated | Caesium | 5 | 45 | 45 | 225 | | | kibblesnbits | 1 | 45 | 44 | 45 | | | samyrp | 2 | 45 | 42 | 90 | | | swaits | 1 | 45 | 41 | 45 | | | phiz | 1 | 45 | 40 | 45 | | | Hiroaki | 1 | 44.5 | 39 | 44.5 | | | ok | 1 | 44 | 38 | 44 | | | Fury! | 1 | 44 | 37 | 44 | | | desired_username | 4 | 44 | 33 | 176 | | | Lucky - Luciano | 1 | 43.5 | 32 | 43.5 | | | win07 | 1 | 43.5 | 31 | 43.5 | | | lan787 | 1 | 43 | 30 | 43 | | | LainZ | 1 | 43 | 29 | 43 | | | tccd | 2 | 43 | 27 | 86 | | | starsoccer9 | 1 | 43 | 26 | 43 | | | Aajo | 1 | 43 | 25 | 43 | | | Hiroaki | 1 | 42.5 | 24 | 42.5 | | | psjw4450 | 4 | 42.5 | 20 | 170 | | | caoxg | 1 | 42.5 | 19 | 42.5 | | | BitMagnet | 1 | 42.5 | 18 | 42.5 | | | FlappySocks | 1 | 42.5 | 17 | 42.5 | | | hashman | 3 | 42 | 14 | 126 | | | Omen1855 | 1 | 42 | 13 | 42 | | | simtel12 | 1 | 42 | 12 | 42 | | | cchan | 1 | 42 | 11 | 42 | | | puexam | 1 | 42 | 10 | 42 | | | drawingthesun | 1 | 42 | 9 | 42 | | | CJPOLO | 1 | 41.5 | 8 | 41.5 | | | Hiroaki | 1 | 41.5 | 7 | 41.5 | | | Omen1855 | 1 | 41.5 | 6 | 41.5 | | | slastar | 2 | 41.5 | 4 | 83 | | | Ajay | 2 | 41.5 | 2 | 83 | | | drlatino999 | 2 | 41.5 | 0 | 83 | | | Total blades: | 50 | | Total BTC: | 2153 | | | | | | | | | | Auction thread (Bid here!) | | | | | | |
Googledoc (thanks Vjain!) : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AiYcEqkgyjc_dEM5Z19DdUxzV3VBVjlvcVBQTFNOYmc#gid=0Estimated Countdown (courtesy of JaredR26) Timer removed. End time: 2013-04-29+13:25:32
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April 29, 2013, 05:39:31 PM |
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Hi all, I'm new to mining, want to get started. What I am confused about is this: why would I bid (up to BTC 50 or maybe even above) for this ASICMINER product (at 10Gh/s) whereas the butterfly at 5Gh/s goes for USD 274,- in their webshop?
Yes - I am already aware that BFL has LARGE back orders. But is that the ONLY reason why these ASICMINER blades are way more expensive? Or is there something else I am missing (technically speaking, as said - I'm a newbie)?
Any help appreciated! Thanks!
It's called opportunity cost. How much does it cost you in lost revenue to wait for BFL to ship their units? Person A places an order today for 10Gh/s at BFL. The order is backordered, so Person A waits. Person B places an order for 10Gh/s block erupter. If the unit ships immediately and B receives it and gets it set up and running within 1 week, then person B can have 3 weeks of BTC mining by the end of the first month. At the current BTC/USD rate and network difficulty, that's about $500 USD per week. How long will Person A have to wait to receive their BFL units? 30 days? By the time A receives their first BFL unit, B can have generated $1500 USD in bitcoins. 60 days waiting for BFL? B can potentially produce over $3000 in that time. The greatest hazard for waiting is that BTC mining difficulty will increase over time, which decreases the revenue per Gh/s. By the time BFL actually ships a unit to you, BTC mining difficulty may be so high that the BFL unit may never pay for itself. The BTC network is advancing. By the time BFL ships your unit, it may be obsolete. How much of a bargain is $274 then?
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April 29, 2013, 05:40:57 PM |
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As per John's request, let's keep this thread clean from other discussions for the remaining auction time. We'll have plenty of time, barring the end of days, to discuss after the auction ends.
Thanks.
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April 29, 2013, 05:42:55 PM |
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Caesium 5 45 kibblesnbits 1 45 samyrp 2 45 swaits 1 45 phiz 1 45 desired_username 4 45 Hiroaki 1 44.5 ok 1 44 Fury! 1 44 Lucky - Luciano 1 43.5 win07 1 43.5 lan787 1 43 LainZ 1 43 tccd 2 43 starsoccer9 1 43 Aajo 1 43 Hiroaki 1 42.5 psjw4450 4 42.5 caoxg 1 42.5 BitMagnet 1 42.5 FlappySocks 1 42.5 hashman 3 42 Omen1855 1 42 simtel12 1 42 cchan 1 42 puexam 1 42 drawingthesun 1 42 CJPOLO 1 41.5 Hiroaki 1 41.5 Omen1855 1 41.5 slastar 2 41.5 Ajay 2 41.5 drlatino999 2 41.5
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John (John K.)
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April 29, 2013, 05:44:10 PM |
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Name | Quantity | Price (฿) | Remaining | BTC Count | Updated to post 638 | <- seldom updated | Caesium | 5 | 45 | 45 | 225 | If there's anything wrong, please tell me! Thanks! | | kibblesnbits | 1 | 45 | 44 | 45 | | | samyrp | 2 | 45 | 42 | 90 | | | swaits | 1 | 45 | 41 | 45 | | | phiz | 1 | 45 | 40 | 45 | | | desired_username | 4 | 45 | 36 | 180 | | | Hiroaki | 1 | 44.5 | 35 | 44.5 | | | ok | 1 | 44 | 34 | 44 | | | Fury! | 1 | 44 | 33 | 44 | | | Lucky - Luciano | 1 | 43.5 | 32 | 43.5 | | | win07 | 1 | 43.5 | 31 | 43.5 | | | lan787 | 1 | 43 | 30 | 43 | | | LainZ | 1 | 43 | 29 | 43 | | | tccd | 2 | 43 | 27 | 86 | | | starsoccer9 | 1 | 43 | 26 | 43 | | | Aajo | 1 | 43 | 25 | 43 | | | Hiroaki | 1 | 42.5 | 24 | 42.5 | | | psjw4450 | 4 | 42.5 | 20 | 170 | | | caoxg | 1 | 42.5 | 19 | 42.5 | | | BitMagnet | 1 | 42.5 | 18 | 42.5 | | | FlappySocks | 1 | 42.5 | 17 | 42.5 | | | hashman | 3 | 42 | 14 | 126 | | | Omen1855 | 1 | 42 | 13 | 42 | | | simtel12 | 1 | 42 | 12 | 42 | | | cchan | 1 | 42 | 11 | 42 | | | puexam | 1 | 42 | 10 | 42 | | | drawingthesun | 1 | 42 | 9 | 42 | | | CJPOLO | 1 | 41.5 | 8 | 41.5 | | | Hiroaki | 1 | 41.5 | 7 | 41.5 | | | Omen1855 | 1 | 41.5 | 6 | 41.5 | | | slastar | 2 | 41.5 | 4 | 83 | | | Ajay | 2 | 41.5 | 2 | 83 | | | drlatino999 | 2 | 41.5 | 0 | 83 | | | Total blades: | 50 | | Total BTC: | 2157 | | | | | | | | | | Auction thread (Bid here!) | | | | | | |
Googledoc (thanks Vjain!) : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AiYcEqkgyjc_dEM5Z19DdUxzV3VBVjlvcVBQTFNOYmc#gid=0Estimated Countdown (courtesy of JaredR26) Timer removed. End time: 2013-04-29+13:25:32
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April 29, 2013, 05:44:35 PM |
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after line 8 of google doc, you minus remain only 1 instead if 4
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April 29, 2013, 05:45:53 PM |
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Can you use a formula to calculate remains?
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April 29, 2013, 05:45:59 PM |
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Lets just leave it like that. I suppose that everyone are happy. The first one to bid after my post is going to have a bad time! ; DDD
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April 29, 2013, 05:47:10 PM |
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Sorry it's my mistake! You are right John
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April 29, 2013, 05:47:48 PM |
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after line 8 of google doc, you minus remain only 1 instead if 4
Isn't it taken away just above, as in this is how many is remaining after the bid? The 4 has been taken away. (look at the cell calculations)
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April 29, 2013, 05:48:07 PM |
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Can you use a formula to calculate remains?
I'm using a formula to do so. after line 8 of google doc, you minus remain only 1 instead if 4
Uh I still don't get that, sorry.
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April 29, 2013, 05:49:01 PM |
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Oh, thanks anyway for keeping an eye on it.! Please resume the bidding! *pokes needle at Fury!'s voodoo doll*
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April 29, 2013, 05:49:29 PM |
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Is there an ETA on when AM is going to push more of these units out?
Meaning, it would be a shame if they start dumping a bunch of these on the market by 5 times the qty each time every 10 days.
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April 29, 2013, 05:50:55 PM |
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1@42 please (If this is below the minimum please tell me)
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April 29, 2013, 05:51:04 PM |
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Oh, thanks anyway for keeping an eye on it.! Please resume the bidding! *pokes needle at Fury!'s voodoo doll* Asssssshhhiit my eye ;<
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John (John K.)
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April 29, 2013, 05:51:13 PM |
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Is there an ETA on when AM is going to push more of these units out?
Meaning, it would be a shame if they start dumping a bunch of these on the market by 5 times the qty each time every 10 days.
The next auction's most probably on USB stick miners, in a week. (the 300mhz type. ) Be rest assured that the blades aren't coming again so soon.
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