[ANN] [SUMO] SUMOKOIN - 🔏 Digital Cash For Highly-Confidential Transactions 🔏

[visdude]

Hmmm...it seems a cheerleader is oblivious to the fact that just like most crypto project, Sumo is open source. Heck, it's literally a copy of Monero for chissake which is truly and idealistically an open source and decentralized project at its very core. That means it's anybody's business if they so choose to participate in whatever manner...unless, of course, the cheerleaders and their bosses are actually making this their own pet project for their own personal benefit in the guise of being open source to camouflage their true intention; and the rest of us are regarded by them as expendable. So when a cheerleader tell off a participant of their "supposedly" open source project to "mind his business" and stay away from their pet project, it's actually a Freudian slip of their true intention.

Cases in point:

1. The exorbitant Sumokoin premine of 10% of the coin supply (about 9 million coins thereby eventually enriching themselves)

2. cheerleaders behaving like a pack of rabid dogs ganging up senselessly on even the slightest of criticism of their pet project that would eventually enrich them like nobody's business.

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[Germining]

Finally! The real visdude is back 

[sumogr]

Hmmm...it seems a cheerleader is oblivious to the fact that just like most crypto project, Sumo is open source. Heck, it's literally a copy of Monero for chissake which is truly and idealistically an open source and decentralized project at its very core. That means it's anybody's business if they so choose to participate in whatever manner...unless, of course, the cheerleaders and their bosses are actually making this their own pet project for their own personal benefit in the guise of being open source to camouflage their true intention; and the rest of us are regarded by them as expendable. So when a cheerleader tell off a participant of their "supposedly" open source project to "mind his business" and stay away from their pet project, it's actually a Freudian slip of their true intention.

Cases in point:

1. The exorbitant Sumokoin premine of 10% of the coin supply (about 9 million coins thereby eventually enriching themselves)

2. cheerleaders behaving like a pack of rabid dogs ganging up senselessly on even the slightest of criticism of their pet project that would eventually enrich them like nobody's business.

The Illuminati and the Bilderberg Group run this coin so you better watch it

What's a chissake by the way?

[LilBitcoin]

SUMO is over and slowly dying, I don't think that SUMO will ever be relevant again. Fact is that SUMO has nothing new to offer, just because their dev team is so small. SUMO literally doesn't do anything new, they just add some "extra" features, cmon

Just my opinion.

[mrtrevorphilly]

SUMO is over and slowly dying, I don't think that SUMO will ever be relevant again. Fact is that SUMO has nothing new to offer, just because their dev team is so small. SUMO literally doesn't do anything new, they just add some "extra" features, cmon

Just my opinion.

What do have other coins to offer?

[cryptonist]

SUMO is over and slowly dying, I don't think that SUMO will ever be relevant again. Fact is that SUMO has nothing new to offer, just because their dev team is so small. SUMO literally doesn't do anything new, they just add some "extra" features, cmon

Just my opinion.

Such an insightful post. Opinions aside, share some actual facts that led you to forming such an opinion, bruv. A small team that has thus far delivered all their goals/promises on time. Their big test will be releasing the bulletproofs functionality on time, but until then, patience is key (assuming you're just bitter about the price slump and nothing else).

[visdude]

If the sumo cheerleaders could only muster trivially juvenile and unrelated replies to otherwise factual and significant posts, it is a manifestation that they are in an untenable position and could no longer support their argument.

As I have suggested before, the "central" folks of this project should seriously consider employing more capable cheerleaders as the performance of the current ones do not bode well for them or their project.

[NChink]

If the sumo cheerleaders could only muster trivially juvenile and unrelated replies to otherwise factual and significant posts, it is a manifestation that they are in an untenable position and could no longer support their argument.

As I have suggested before, the "central" folks of this project should seriously consider employing more capable cheerleaders as the performance of the current ones do not bode well for them or their project.

I don't get it - it is very apparent that you hate SUMOKOIN and the community; how and why do you spend so much time and energy going back and forth with the folks here? This goes beyond creating FUD or trolling and it almost looks like it's an obsession for you. It's downright amusing at times - you're the star of our very own crypto-soap opera.

[visdude]

I hope the following presentation serves as an inspiration to this project. Anyway, this is how infographics (animated in this case) should be done; just facts, no embellishments:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K33PoKM7vOM

[kampaeros]

www.sg-pool.com, a 0% fee mining pool, is still seeking more miners to come and support us!
With lowered payouts to 0.2 SUMO, smaller hashrates miners are very welcome!
So far we have found 3 blocks and are looking to add more together with you.

[casternetwork]

I'm waiting for more promotion plans for this project.
it sounds nice . I will see what happens next.

Many projects have been established but not as expected, but many recent projects bring many benefits for investors and everything when participating in plans are good, undoubtedly many New programs will be developed this year

[vuykim]

I think the biggest problem with privacy coins getting listed on the exchanges is the way they have to deal with the wallets the payment IDs and stuff like that I feel like most exchanges don't want those headaches look at how many people lose their coins because they forget to send them with the payment IDs, if I were exchanged I wouldn't want those headaches somebody has to figure that out first to make it more usable for the exchanges on their end

[sumogr]

I think the biggest problem with privacy coins getting listed on the exchanges is the way they have to deal with the wallets the payment IDs and stuff like that I feel like most exchanges don't want those headaches look at how many people lose their coins because they forget to send them with the payment IDs, if I were exchanged I wouldn't want those headaches somebody has to figure that out first to make it more usable for the exchanges on their end

Exchanges can use subaddresses to avoid per-customer payment ids. They can still run a central wallet and issue a subaddress as a pernosalised deposit gateway for each client of theirs. However the issue is that only Monero and Sumokoin can support this feature and only Sumokoin has the subaddresses feature functional on the coin's GUI wallet. That would leave all other cryptonote coins running on the current specific-payment id way of depositing.

[LilBitcoin]

SUMO is over and slowly dying, I don't think that SUMO will ever be relevant again. Fact is that SUMO has nothing new to offer, just because their dev team is so small. SUMO literally doesn't do anything new, they just add some "extra" features, cmon

Just my opinion.

Such an insightful post. Opinions aside, share some actual facts that led you to forming such an opinion, bruv. A small team that has thus far delivered all their goals/promises on time. Their big test will be releasing the bulletproofs functionality on time, but until then, patience is key (assuming you're just bitter about the price slump and nothing else).

HAHA

[h0g0f0g0]

SUMO is over and slowly dying, I don't think that SUMO will ever be relevant again. Fact is that SUMO has nothing new to offer, just because their dev team is so small. SUMO literally doesn't do anything new, they just add some "extra" features, cmon

Just my opinion.

Yeah it's dead. Sell me more.

[Febo]

Is Sumokoin able to repel attacks like Monero V's that threaten Monero's anonymity?

Well according to this
https://btcmanager.com/monerov-trap-laid-monero-users/
(end of the article at the "Conclusion" part)
As for a concrete solution to chain split attacks, a higher minimum enforced ring size could be the answer. Ehrenhofer, along with Brandon Goodell, recommends a higher ring size and increasing this figure from five to eight, but comes with the cost of increasing fees and transaction sizes, “For a modest increase in fees and transaction size, we can be much more assured that Monero’s ring signatures are prepared for large chain split attacks.” Goodell proposed a range between eight and 16. With a ring signature of eight, every transaction will have eight signatures instead of five and eight possible inputs for one actual input spent, providing greater obfuscation. The attractiveness of this solution is that it is easily implemented.[/i]


Sumokoin has by default and since day one, 12 mixins which means a ringsize value of 13, also Sumokoin has a young chain with still small fees while bulletproofs implementation will keep the chain and fees at the current levels so this high ring value doesnt have any serious negative effects on its chain size and fees.
So I guess the answer is no, I think Sumokoin is secure from such kind of issues

Lets hope you are right. Luckily for you is that first one will be tested Monero. I do believe result will be same on any clone.  This is not cryptographical flaw but users flaw.  So cant be charthographicly fixed. If user give his private keys away no math can save him. Not even 12 mixings.

[sumogr]

Is Sumokoin able to repel attacks like Monero V's that threaten Monero's anonymity?

Well according to this
https://btcmanager.com/monerov-trap-laid-monero-users/
(end of the article at the "Conclusion" part)
As for a concrete solution to chain split attacks, a higher minimum enforced ring size could be the answer. Ehrenhofer, along with Brandon Goodell, recommends a higher ring size and increasing this figure from five to eight, but comes with the cost of increasing fees and transaction sizes, “For a modest increase in fees and transaction size, we can be much more assured that Monero’s ring signatures are prepared for large chain split attacks.” Goodell proposed a range between eight and 16. With a ring signature of eight, every transaction will have eight signatures instead of five and eight possible inputs for one actual input spent, providing greater obfuscation. The attractiveness of this solution is that it is easily implemented.[/i]


Sumokoin has by default and since day one, 12 mixins which means a ringsize value of 13, also Sumokoin has a young chain with still small fees while bulletproofs implementation will keep the chain and fees at the current levels so this high ring value doesnt have any serious negative effects on its chain size and fees.
So I guess the answer is no, I think Sumokoin is secure from such kind of issues

Lets hope you are right. Luckily for you is that first one will be tested Monero. I do believe result will be same on any clone.  This is not cryptographical flaw but users flaw.  So cant be charthographicly fixed. If user give his private keys away no math can save him. Not even 12 mixings.

Well actually imho increasing the number of fake inputs to an extreme height can give almost absolute protection even if someone hands out his key but then there is the chain size/fees issue... However the higher the ringsize the less the identity of "reals" are compromised so it is provably obvious that 13 is exponentially better than 5 on such a case. Anyway, people were doing the MoneroV thing when using MyMonero all along didnt they?

[kkemp102294]

I've got 5 R9 380 cards and after tunning them I'm getting 3000 h/s with 600 W. I'm using SG-miner.

Is it a good resoult for these cards?

I think you are pretty close. You might be able to tweak out 400 h/s more using xmr-stak. Are you doing any over clocking? You might be able to get a little more out of each card. Watch for extra heat if you start overclocking as temperatures will rise.

Happy mining! 

Thanks for the advice, I'll try xmr-stak as soon as I arrive home.

The cpu clock is overclocked to 1000MHz and the memory clock to 1600MHz. The temperatures are from 50°C to 57°C depending on the card. Is it too much temperature or can I overclock them more? 

The temperature looks ok. Anything over 70°C will cause concern though.

[Alejandur]

I've got 5 R9 380 cards and after tunning them I'm getting 3000 h/s with 600 W. I'm using SG-miner.

Is it a good resoult for these cards?

I think you are pretty close. You might be able to tweak out 400 h/s more using xmr-stak. Are you doing any over clocking? You might be able to get a little more out of each card. Watch for extra heat if you start overclocking as temperatures will rise.

Happy mining! 

Thanks for the advice, I'll try xmr-stak as soon as I arrive home.

The cpu clock is overclocked to 1000MHz and the memory clock to 1600MHz. The temperatures are from 50°C to 57°C depending on the card. Is it too much temperature or can I overclock them more? 

The temperature looks ok. Anything over 70°C will cause concern though.

I've been testing with xmr-stack and with more overclocking but I get less hashing power.

I'll check temperature more often. Thank you for the advice.

[d3athgu1s3]

I've got 5 R9 380 cards and after tunning them I'm getting 3000 h/s with 600 W. I'm using SG-miner.

Is it a good resoult for these cards?

I think you are pretty close. You might be able to tweak out 400 h/s more using xmr-stak. Are you doing any over clocking? You might be able to get a little more out of each card. Watch for extra heat if you start overclocking as temperatures will rise.

Happy mining! 

Thanks for the advice, I'll try xmr-stak as soon as I arrive home.

The cpu clock is overclocked to 1000MHz and the memory clock to 1600MHz. The temperatures are from 50°C to 57°C depending on the card. Is it too much temperature or can I overclock them more? 

The temperature looks ok. Anything over 70°C will cause concern though.

I've been testing with xmr-stack and with more overclocking but I get less hashing power.

I'll check temperature more often. Thank you for the advice.

Not all card will run better at overclocking, all of them have different ASIC quality, so you will need to find sweet spot for each of the card.