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December 18, 2017, 05:41:11 AM
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I really don't understand why you keep ignoring my question regarding the massive security risk? How exactly are those funds kept that you ask users to deposit via your website?

The developers do have layers of protection, though we can not describe them for security reasons, we make sure that only you can withdraw or transfer and not even us can touch those tokens.

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Hm good to know, but only to a certain degree because why would it be necessary for you to keep that to yourself if no even you can't touch those tokens? How would anyone else be able to do so if it's not possible for you?

Alright I accept that you are not willing to deal with my question. I for my part learned that people avoiding questions usually don't have proper answers Wink

Our security system is enough secured to protect your funds and tokens. We recommend everyone to protect their accounts with secure passwords and 2FA. But as for your initial question, we don't persuade people to store all their funds on our website.

But you incentivize them to do it. Can't you manage your lotteries (or for whatever people have to store their funds on your website) via a wonderfully secure smart contract?

This is a kind of question that is more technical and developer centered.
But we do manage our balances with exchange level security. The same reason why exchanges don't manage their funds with smart contracts is the reason why we use our layers of protection just like them. Smart contracts also have points of failure and different from other software they can not be changed, check recently smart contract errors that lead to millions in losses on another company.

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I was really excited about the huge jackpot, but the problem is though that I've spoken to a lot of lottery players and very few, <10% imo, want to play because they don't believe an Eastern Europe start-up will payout an $8 million jackpot.

So it's good you haven't spent too much on marketing because I think you will find such a small % would trust you to payout so it's not worth spending the money.

If you look at the big value players like FUN ($200 million valuation) It's all ZERO third party trust. The game is verified by the blockchain & a smart contract pays out the winnings.

Before you waste any money on marketing, do some market research and I believe you will find a $1 million jackpot controlled by a Smart Contract will be 100x more popular than an $8 million jackpot that requires you to trust a third party to pay out.

I understand the issues with smart contracts but for as long as all the jackpot/s are centrally controlled the valuation of TFL and the player base will be severely limited.

(Investors will like it too, if the Smart Contract automatically sends X% to TFL, a % to an investor fund and the remaining amount to the smart contract jackpot whenever a ticket is purchased.)



That is exactly why we are not (yet) burning money on advertising like some users want.
Thank you for adding your opinion to the discussion.

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December 18, 2017, 09:25:40 AM
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Where is "My token holder profile"? Can't find it in this new interface. And when willl the first "dividends" be paid out?

They are working on the page improvement and have disabled it, check few posts above and you will find more details on this.There is no dividend distribution with TFL, where did you hear this from?


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December 18, 2017, 04:20:32 PM
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Please, Trueflip, answer my question!

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December 18, 2017, 04:56:38 PM
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Where is "My token holder profile"? Can't find it in this new interface. And when willl the first "dividends" be paid out?

They are working on the page improvement and have disabled it, check few posts above and you will find more details on this.There is no dividend distribution with TFL, where did you hear this from?

Yes for sure there is a dividend distribution with TFL  Roll Eyes
4 times a year it should be paid!!!!  Undecided
1 time per quarter.... :/ ive never got any dividends, i have parked mine tokens on investors profile....
This was at beginning the only thing why you had bought tfl tokens....
Its not because the guys are from eastern Europe that no one belives in TFL
Peoples from Eastern Europe are great developner!!!
They should only work with smart contracts like the guy wrote some posts befor mine...
Should be no problem on eth network then it also could be anonymous without log in.....
Much more people would play if it would be really anonym...
Nobody belives in this lottery because they make mistakes, break promisses, issues during ico, give for very long time no updates and feedbacks...
The communication is very rare with the team...
You cant play lotto with tfl tokens.... trueflip tfl tokens are useless!
The new site is confusing and looks cheap :/
bye bye trueflip i leave the boat after 6 months waiting for some development!
sorry for spelling mistakes
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December 18, 2017, 05:12:29 PM
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Why are you so aggresive?

There is a lot of communication from team.
There are only a 20-30 seconds until answer in telegram chat for example.

Dividends causes legal problem, but team found solution!
So we all will receive first payout till the end of this year!

Russia is NOT eastern europe.

New site is amazing and looks pretty good.

Tickets for TFL wiil be till 30 december - that promises were.

Wait. And don't cry like a child.


Where is "My token holder profile"? Can't find it in this new interface. And when willl the first "dividends" be paid out?

They are working on the page improvement and have disabled it, check few posts above and you will find more details on this.There is no dividend distribution with TFL, where did you hear this from?

Yes for sure there is a dividend distribution with TFL  Roll Eyes
4 times a year it should be paid!!!!  Undecided
1 time per quarter.... :/ ive never got any dividends, i have parked mine tokens on investors profile....
This was at beginning the only thing why you had bought tfl tokens....
Its not because the guys are from eastern Europe that no one belives in TFL
Peoples from Eastern Europe are great developner!!!
They should only work with smart contracts like the guy wrote some posts befor mine...
Should be no problem on eth network then it also could be anonymous without log in.....
Much more people would play if it would be really anonym...
Nobody belives in this lottery because they make mistakes, break promisses, issues during ico, give for very long time no updates and feedbacks...
The communication is very rare with the team...
You cant play lotto with tfl tokens.... trueflip tfl tokens are useless!
The new site is confusing and looks cheap :/
bye bye trueflip i leave the boat after 6 months waiting for some development!
sorry for spelling mistakes

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December 18, 2017, 09:40:32 PM
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please, can someone post the telegram group link (that SHOULD BE ON THE FRONT PAGE!!!).

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December 19, 2017, 08:50:31 AM
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Why are you so aggresive?

There is a lot of communication from team.
There are only a 20-30 seconds until answer in telegram chat for example.

Dividends causes legal problem, but team found solution!
So we all will receive first payout till the end of this year!

Russia is NOT eastern europe.

New site is amazing and looks pretty good.

Tickets for TFL wiil be till 30 december - that promises were.

Wait. And don't cry like a child.


Where is "My token holder profile"? Can't find it in this new interface. And when willl the first "dividends" be paid out?

They are working on the page improvement and have disabled it, check few posts above and you will find more details on this.There is no dividend distribution with TFL, where did you hear this from?

Yes for sure there is a dividend distribution with TFL  Roll Eyes
4 times a year it should be paid!!!!  Undecided
1 time per quarter.... :/ ive never got any dividends, i have parked mine tokens on investors profile....
This was at beginning the only thing why you had bought tfl tokens....
Its not because the guys are from eastern Europe that no one belives in TFL
Peoples from Eastern Europe are great developner!!!
They should only work with smart contracts like the guy wrote some posts befor mine...
Should be no problem on eth network then it also could be anonymous without log in.....
Much more people would play if it would be really anonym...
Nobody belives in this lottery because they make mistakes, break promisses, issues during ico, give for very long time no updates and feedbacks...
The communication is very rare with the team...
You cant play lotto with tfl tokens.... trueflip tfl tokens are useless!
The new site is confusing and looks cheap :/
bye bye trueflip i leave the boat after 6 months waiting for some development!
sorry for spelling mistakes

Do we have the ratio of dividend payment for each TFL token? Is there any announcement made for this by the team? If they can beat Taas team in dividend distribution, many new investors will come over here.
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December 19, 2017, 11:07:39 PM
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will you take part in any recent meetup?
where and when can i talk with founders?
Don't worry, if they don't tell you of their plans now, then they will be posted later on their media channels. As for the founders, go to Moscow and meet them there. Grin

Where is "My token holder profile"? Can't find it in this new interface. And when willl the first "dividends" be paid out?
The token holder profile will become available after they finish updating it. In Telegram they said it's gonna happen 1-2 days later. The first so called rewards will be paid out on 29-30th of this month.

Yes for sure there is a dividend distribution with TFL  Roll Eyes
4 times a year it should be paid!!!!  Undecided
1 time per quarter.... :/ ive never got any dividends, i have parked mine tokens on investors profile....
This was at beginning the only thing why you had bought tfl tokens....
Its not because the guys are from eastern Europe that no one belives in TFL
Peoples from Eastern Europe are great developner!!!
They should only work with smart contracts like the guy wrote some posts befor mine...
Should be no problem on eth network then it also could be anonymous without log in.....
Much more people would play if it would be really anonym...
Nobody belives in this lottery because they make mistakes, break promisses, issues during ico, give for very long time no updates and feedbacks...
The communication is very rare with the team...
You cant play lotto with tfl tokens.... trueflip tfl tokens are useless!
The new site is confusing and looks cheap :/
bye bye trueflip i leave the boat after 6 months waiting for some development!
sorry for spelling mistakes
Hold a second! TFL tokens are not useless. They have already implemented the function of paying for tickets with TFL. Get back to the boat dude Cheesy

please, can someone post the telegram group link (that SHOULD BE ON THE FRONT PAGE!!!).
You are missing something, mate.
https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAELcwT-fgH2zG7xEng
What is it on the main page, how do you think? Cheesy


Do we have the ratio of dividend payment for each TFL token? Is there any announcement made for this by the team? If they can beat Taas team in dividend distribution, many new investors will come over here.
Man, are you serious? I mean the point about investors. They have already held their ICO a long time ago. If you're leaving your post just because you are participating in some bounty, don't turn this place into rubbish, please.

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December 20, 2017, 05:19:09 AM
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Hold a second! TFL tokens are not useless. They have already implemented the function of paying for tickets with TFL. Get back to the boat dude Cheesy



Can you paste/post a screenshot of where I can find this function? It will be a great news indeed if the TEAM will allow TFL as payment for tickets, then they can Re-buy or re-sell on the open market which will create liquidity and growth. Great idea. TFL may soon hit 100X if they do this.



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December 20, 2017, 07:55:00 AM
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will you take part in any recent meetup?
where and when can i talk with founders?
Don't worry, if they don't tell you of their plans now, then they will be posted later on their media channels. As for the founders, go to Moscow and meet them there. Grin

Where is "My token holder profile"? Can't find it in this new interface. And when willl the first "dividends" be paid out?
The token holder profile will become available after they finish updating it. In Telegram they said it's gonna happen 1-2 days later. The first so called rewards will be paid out on 29-30th of this month.

Yes for sure there is a dividend distribution with TFL  Roll Eyes
4 times a year it should be paid!!!!  Undecided
1 time per quarter.... :/ ive never got any dividends, i have parked mine tokens on investors profile....
This was at beginning the only thing why you had bought tfl tokens....
Its not because the guys are from eastern Europe that no one belives in TFL
Peoples from Eastern Europe are great developner!!!
They should only work with smart contracts like the guy wrote some posts befor mine...
Should be no problem on eth network then it also could be anonymous without log in.....
Much more people would play if it would be really anonym...
Nobody belives in this lottery because they make mistakes, break promisses, issues during ico, give for very long time no updates and feedbacks...
The communication is very rare with the team...
You cant play lotto with tfl tokens.... trueflip tfl tokens are useless!
The new site is confusing and looks cheap :/
bye bye trueflip i leave the boat after 6 months waiting for some development!
sorry for spelling mistakes
Hold a second! TFL tokens are not useless. They have already implemented the function of paying for tickets with TFL. Get back to the boat dude Cheesy

please, can someone post the telegram group link (that SHOULD BE ON THE FRONT PAGE!!!).
You are missing something, mate.
https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAELcwT-fgH2zG7xEng
What is it on the main page, how do you think? Cheesy


Do we have the ratio of dividend payment for each TFL token? Is there any announcement made for this by the team? If they can beat Taas team in dividend distribution, many new investors will come over here.
Man, are you serious? I mean the point about investors. They have already held their ICO a long time ago. If you're leaving your post just because you are participating in some bounty, don't turn this place into rubbish, please.

I was part of the ico and I do not mean any rubbish over here.I meant about the reward distribution for each TFL holder as there was dividend distribution set in the whitepaper and then changed back to the lottery.
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December 20, 2017, 05:56:55 PM
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i am newbie, may I ask how to deposit bitcoin to Trueflip?
And here is the big problem, why would fillup balance show 1 btc =$11300 USD?
according to Cryptocompare,1 btc = ~16700 USD. I am confused.
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December 20, 2017, 08:40:16 PM
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Please, can somebody help me here. I received my TFL tokens from the bounty campaigns stored in my Holder profile, I used my MEW address 0xfF23Aa76eD26D8D8047c2cCeBa6FCf38D0552923 to request for withdrawal but I didn't know that I should use instead the given ETH address in the Refill balance 0xc367c58617dfa3b2a6ea819e6a57ed4949b83752  and to park it. Now I can't see my TFL tokens in my holder profile after the last update because it's showing zero. Is it still possible to change my address?
Can you fix this? my registered e-mail address is bitcoin022198@gmail.com
Thank you so much.

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December 21, 2017, 12:48:49 AM
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Everyone has to support you with the new kucoin vote. This time we will win.
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December 21, 2017, 04:14:15 AM
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Everyone has to support you with the new kucoin vote. This time we will win.

Thank you!

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December 21, 2017, 04:15:23 AM
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Please, can somebody help me here. I received my TFL tokens from the bounty campaigns stored in my Holder profile, I used my MEW address 0xfF23Aa76eD26D8D8047c2cCeBa6FCf38D0552923 to request for withdrawal but I didn't know that I should use instead the given ETH address in the Refill balance 0xc367c58617dfa3b2a6ea819e6a57ed4949b83752  and to park it. Now I can't see my TFL tokens in my holder profile after the last update because it's showing zero. Is it still possible to change my address?
Can you fix this? my registered e-mail address is bitcoin022198@gmail.com
Thank you so much.

We are updating the token holder page, soon we will release the new version.

Best regards,
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December 21, 2017, 09:56:14 AM
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Everyone has to support you with the new kucoin vote. This time we will win.

How can i participate in this voting?

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December 21, 2017, 10:10:54 AM
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So....
I contacted the team!

Well, gentlemen, we are waiting for X10 in the new year!
Brief overview of the news:

1. Dividends will be until December 31, the dividend fund will be significantly more than 7btc from fund - due to some additional injections (most likely due to forks),
2. Now you can buy tickets for TFL and the rate is four times higher than the exchange rate.
3. In January, a license will be obtained from Curaçao, then Malta, Gibraltar, England. Will receive Fiat.
4. Saws to the fig of new games!
5. Marketing is ready - waiting for a license.

And I understood one more moment.
All the ICOs that were conducted, take Fiat, and so on soon risk being smeared on the wall.
Because de facto conduct illegal business activities aimed at making profit.
Yes, I'm also bothered by the TrueFlip approach to legal issues. They spend too much time on it.
But in the long run this is very correct. They really value their business.

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December 21, 2017, 01:29:22 PM
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So....
I contacted the team!

Well, gentlemen, we are waiting for X10 in the new year!
Brief overview of the news:

1. Dividends will be until December 31, the dividend fund will be significantly more than 7btc from fund - due to some additional injections (most likely due to forks),
2. Now you can buy tickets for TFL and the rate is four times higher than the exchange rate.
3. In January, a license will be obtained from Curaçao, then Malta, Gibraltar, England. Will receive Fiat.
4. Saws to the fig of new games!
5. Marketing is ready - waiting for a license.

And I understood one more moment.
All the ICOs that were conducted, take Fiat, and so on soon risk being smeared on the wall.
Because de facto conduct illegal business activities aimed at making profit.
Yes, I'm also bothered by the TrueFlip approach to legal issues. They spend too much time on it.
But in the long run this is very correct. They really value their business.


I just contacted the team on telegram and they confirmed you are talking out of your ass, you did not contact the team, you just made this all up in some attempt to pump the price
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December 22, 2017, 07:51:36 AM
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I am newbie
Is the exchange etherdelta safe now?
should I waiting for buy TFL until Trueflip finished updating the token holder page?
hope for suggestion. Thanks.
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December 22, 2017, 04:31:09 PM
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I'm sorry to have to ask again but my tokens disappeared from the web with the update and have not yet been reflected in the statistics. It seems that the investor zone is already active but the tokens still do not appear.
How long will it take to be available to be able to remove them?
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