Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. -ASIC mining hardware

[frontbit]

If I buy 16 chips and PCB and compoents from you and use your assembly and hosting service. does it guaranty that all 16 chips will work. or in this case do I need to buy extra chips in case of any defected chip? thanks.

Though Avalon has stated each chip will be tested prior to shipping, there are concerns regarding chip failure rates from batch purchases. The following solution will be adopted in the event faulty chips are discovered.

Chip purchase: BTC.086 per chip
PCB and components: $35 per 16 chip board
Assembly: $60 per 16 chip board
Testing: Price TBD. Testing will be available, with pricing determined once the procedure has been finalized.
Hosting: 8% flat fee based on miner production, plus electricity.

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[wrenchmonkey]

If I buy 16 chips and PCB and compoents from you and use your assembly and hosting service. does it guaranty that all 16 chips will work. or in this case do I need to buy extra chips in case of any defected chip? thanks.

Though Avalon has stated each chip will be tested prior to shipping, there are concerns regarding chip failure rates from batch purchases. The following solution will be adopted in the event faulty chips are discovered.

Chip purchase: BTC.086 per chip
PCB and components: $35 per 16 chip board
Assembly: $60 per 16 chip board
Testing: Price TBD. Testing will be available, with pricing determined once the procedure has been finalized.
Hosting: 8% flat fee based on miner production, plus electricity.

Good lord, why can't people read?

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In the event the customer has not purchased, or purchased an inadequate amount of, replacement chips, additional chips will be available for a fee of BTC0.0939.

Read the first post of this thread, in its entirety, for more specific answers.

The chips are "tested" from Avalon, but you need to weigh that against the odds that bad chips can still slip past it. YOU AND YOU ALONE are responsible to ensure that you have enough chips, even if you end up with one or more chips that are faulty from the factory. If you don't buy extras ahead of time, you can buy replacements as needed, for an additional fee (as long as extra chips are available).

[frontbit]

Good lord, why can't people read?

Read the first post of this thread, in its entirety, for more specific answers.

The chips are "tested" from Avalon, but you need to weigh that against the odds that bad chips can still slip past it. YOU AND YOU ALONE are responsible to ensure that you have enough chips, even if you end up with one or more chips that are faulty from the factory. If you don't buy extras ahead of time, you can buy replacements as needed, for an additional fee (as long as extra chips are available).

Thanks for your reply wrenchmonkey. I have of course read the first post. however, my question was in the case when I elect to use his assembling service and hosting. as in when the fault was found during assembly and/or hosting.

I should re-word my question then, In the case when my chips stay with steamboat (assembled and hosted by steamboat) should I (or do you recommend me to) buy extra chips in advance?

I am aware of below statement too

In the event the customer has not purchased, or purchased an inadequate amount of, replacement chips, additional chips will be available for a fee of BTC0.0939.

and I am sure this depends on availability too.

The main reason I asked this question because I thought if this thing assembled and hosted by steamboat is easier to get replacement chip since the device stays with him.

Thanks.

[Unacceptable]

I just paid the 18.834 for 219 chips, but I don't understand the "sending address". Now I may be a total moron for not understanding this even though I've been active in BTC long enough, but how do I know what my sending address was?

Here's a tutorial of signing transactions:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=195052.0

It's halfway down in the first post 

[frontbit]

Ordered 17 chips.

Payment and email sent.

I put down "I want to use your assembly and hosting service" in all the address fields and shipping type.
I hope that's the correct way.

Thanks.

[ewitte]

Sent payment for 18 chips.  Hopefully I signed it correctly lol.  Sending transaction id via PM.

[wrenchmonkey]

Good lord, why can't people read?

Read the first post of this thread, in its entirety, for more specific answers.

The chips are "tested" from Avalon, but you need to weigh that against the odds that bad chips can still slip past it. YOU AND YOU ALONE are responsible to ensure that you have enough chips, even if you end up with one or more chips that are faulty from the factory. If you don't buy extras ahead of time, you can buy replacements as needed, for an additional fee (as long as extra chips are available).

Thanks for your reply wrenchmonkey. I have of course read the first post. however, my question was in the case when I elect to use his assembling service and hosting. as in when the fault was found during assembly and/or hosting.

I should re-word my question then, In the case when my chips stay with steamboat (assembled and hosted by steamboat) should I (or do you recommend me to) buy extra chips in advance?

I am aware of below statement too

In the event the customer has not purchased, or purchased an inadequate amount of, replacement chips, additional chips will be available for a fee of BTC0.0939.

and I am sure this depends on availability too.

The main reason I asked this question because I thought if this thing assembled and hosted by steamboat is easier to get replacement chip since the device stays with him.

Thanks.

You are responsible for ensuring that you have enough functional chips, regardless of where they are assembled, or where their final destination will be. Why would it be any different with a hosting solution. You still need to pay for enough chips (including defective ones) to get your system running properly.

[ewitte]

Quick question.  I ordered 18 in case there is an issue with 1-2 of them.  If there is more than 2 bad will the board function at reduced capacity with less chips installed?

[Galli]

Hi Steamboat,

Some questions on the hosting (couldn't find an answer on this thread)

What does the 8% hosting fee cover exactly?  I understand power costs are to be distributed to the miners (somehow proportionately?), will the 8% cover security, electricity infrastructure upgrades, portal setup (assuming we can log into something to monitor our account?) A/C cooling/upgrades, insurance, central servers, data connection, replacement parts (PSUs, fans, cases etc), maintenance?  There seems to be a lot of extra bits of overhead, will the 8% compensate you for your time and cover these misc costs?

Also, do you have the manpower ready to scale up/setup the hosting center? Might be good for us who are interesting in the hosting option to pay a one-time setup fee so there isn't a chance of the project being stalled or delayed because lack of hands

I apologize in advance if these questions have been asked and answered already.

[wrenchmonkey]

Quick question.  I ordered 18 in case there is an issue with 1-2 of them.  If there is more than 2 bad will the board function at reduced capacity with less chips installed?

The Klondike project (which this is based on) is slated to be functional with any number of chips up to and including 16 chips. Of course, until the designer actually has chips to test the functionality, everything is tentative, but I have every confidence that he'll be able to get it working as intended, in which case, the boards will function with any number of chips, and even if one in the series dies, they will continue to function, so long as the data lines remain intact within the damaged chip.

Worst case scenario, if the chip's data line is damaged, you only lose the hashing power of the 4 chips in that bank (there are 4 separate banks of 4 chips).

[Stringchains]

Payment of 13.78 BTC Sent for Another 160 Chips for Batch #4.

Thank you so very much Sir Steamboat!

[ipxtreme]

34 chips bought. Signed message sent. I would like to buy the PCB and have you assemble. I will host on my end.

Thanks

[cardcomm]

I just paid the 18.834 for 219 chips, but I don't understand the "sending address". Now I may be a total moron for not understanding this even though I've been active in BTC long enough, but how do I know what my sending address was?

Here's a tutorial of signing transactions:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=195052.0

It's halfway down in the first post 

For those using the blockchain.info client, you can sign and verify messages here (I had a little trouble finding it the first time):

Receive Money -> Addresses (active) -> Actions -> Sign message
-- or --
Receive Money -> Addresses (active) -> More Actions -> Verify message

[Galli]

Sent 6.966 for 81 chips

thanks

[cp1]

Since Avalon released their reference design does that mean it could be used to make 10 chip boards instead?  Would that be easier / more reliable than the Klondike design?

[jimrome]

Since Avalon released their reference design does that mean it could be used to make 10 chip boards instead?  Would that be easier / more reliable than the Klondike design?

I believe the Avalon ref design would only produce a hashing card, which would require other PCBs to do anything meaningful. The klondike boards will be standalone, and will be able to run when connected to a host via USB.

(please feel free to jump in if I have the details wrong here).

[wrenchmonkey]

Since Avalon released their reference design does that mean it could be used to make 10 chip boards instead?  Would that be easier / more reliable than the Klondike design?

Yes, it could be done, however, it would require a dedicated FPGA, as well as a lot of other hardware that is really kind of overkill and adds to the overall cost. There are people making/offering Avalon clones (including hosting options), if that's what you're interested in doing, but it doesn't seem to be all that cost-effective; especially at a lower scale, which is where a lot of people are starting out.

[corbs132]

Is this offer still available?

[jasinlee]

Batch is near sold out if my math is right, so its still available but not much more like 400 chips? Anyone got a running tally?

[corbs132]

How do I sign up for 32 chips?