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September 26, 2017, 07:13:57 PM
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whats the best you can do to a xfx 560 micron single fan?

About 14.8 if card doesn't have additional power connector, 15.5 if it has it.
Everything above 15.5 is just question of cooling memory...gigabyte has advantage that
metal part of cooler covers memory chips too...I don't know about any other card like that, but
if it exists, it should be able to reach 16MH/s too

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September 26, 2017, 07:31:59 PM
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whats the best you can do to a xfx 560 micron single fan?

About 14.8 if card doesn't have additional power connector, 15.5 if it has it.
Everything above 15.5 is just question of cooling memory...gigabyte has advantage that
metal part of cooler covers memory chips too...I don't know about any other card like that, but
if it exists, it should be able to reach 16MH/s too



It does have additional power.

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September 26, 2017, 09:38:24 PM
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I have a power color 560 with hynix memory and is only getting 12.4 MHS with 1750 strap and memory at 2050.
Does anyone else have any experience with those cards? What is the best I can get. It does not have another power connector just the riser.

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September 26, 2017, 09:41:19 PM
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I have a power color 560 with hynix memory and is only getting 12.4 MHS with 1750 strap and memory at 2050.
Does anyone else have any experience with those cards? What is the best I can get. It does not have another power connector just the riser.

Probably about 14MH/s...I'd really like to see if any manufacturer put real 7GHz memory instead 6GHz on Hynix versions of RX560s,
but seems no brave enough people to remove coolers and take pictures...I'd really like to make BIOS for real 7GHz part
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September 26, 2017, 09:51:30 PM
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I have a power color 560 with hynix memory and is only getting 12.4 MHS with 1750 strap and memory at 2050.
Does anyone else have any experience with those cards? What is the best I can get. It does not have another power connector just the riser.

Probably about 14MH/s...I'd really like to see if any manufacturer put real 7GHz memory instead 6GHz on Hynix versions of RX560s,
but seems no brave enough people to remove coolers and take pictures...I'd really like to make BIOS for real 7GHz part

Tell me what you need, I can do it this weekend.
Also, what bios are u using to get 14. Just 1500 strap or something custom.

Also according to the specs it is 7000.

https://ibb.co/iqD6eQ

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September 26, 2017, 10:07:08 PM
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I have a power color 560 with hynix memory and is only getting 12.4 MHS with 1750 strap and memory at 2050.
Does anyone else have any experience with those cards? What is the best I can get. It does not have another power connector just the riser.

Probably about 14MH/s...I'd really like to see if any manufacturer put real 7GHz memory instead 6GHz on Hynix versions of RX560s,
but seems no brave enough people to remove coolers and take pictures...I'd really like to make BIOS for real 7GHz part

Tell me what you need, I can do it this weekend.
Also, what bios are u using to get 14. Just 1500 strap or something custom.

Also according to the specs it is 7000.

https://ibb.co/iqD6eQ


My Gigabyte is 7GHz too...but that just means its already factory overclocked

If you look at this picture



you can see R0C marking...thats 6GHz part, R2C is 7GHz, and R4C is 8GHz...I guess theres shortage of memory chips

You can check for yourself here:

https://www.skhynix.com/static/filedata/fileDownload.do?seq=267
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September 26, 2017, 10:16:20 PM
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I can take it apart and take a pic this weekend. But just out of curiosity, why not make a 7000 Rom, I flash it and if it bricks our fired than we know lol. It's quicker, I can test it tonight.

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September 27, 2017, 03:24:23 AM
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I have a power color 560 with hynix memory and is only getting 12.4 MHS with 1750 strap and memory at 2050.
Does anyone else have any experience with those cards? What is the best I can get. It does not have another power connector just the riser.

Probably about 14MH/s...I'd really like to see if any manufacturer put real 7GHz memory instead 6GHz on Hynix versions of RX560s,
but seems no brave enough people to remove coolers and take pictures...I'd really like to make BIOS for real 7GHz part

Mind making me a mod for my card? Smiley

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September 28, 2017, 07:37:41 AM
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hi,

maybe someone has an idea what's wrong.

I have the "Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 560 4GD5, 4GB GDDR5, DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort, lite retail (11267-00-20G)"
it came with Micron memory. I saved bios and tried with any BIOS editor I found to copy the 1625 or 1750 strap to the later ones.

the problem is:
after flashing the card is no longer detected by miner (claymore, sgminer), also after re-install of drivers. in atiflash the card is shown as polaris 11 and not RX 560, like it was before and after re-flashing of the original/unmodiefied bios. in gpu-z it also shows different then before.

also the miners crash with beta blockchain aug23, 17.6.2 is working ok. OS is win7 x64

If needed I upload the bios.
actually it's doing dual eth/dcr (dcri 45) on dag8 with 11,3/500, only had to +20% PT in TRIXX 6.5

any thoughts how to tune memory?


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September 28, 2017, 08:55:41 AM
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hi,

maybe someone has an idea what's wrong.

I have the "Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 560 4GD5, 4GB GDDR5, DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort, lite retail (11267-00-20G)"
it came with Micron memory. I saved bios and tried with any BIOS editor I found to copy the 1625 or 1750 strap to the later ones.

the problem is:
after flashing the card is no longer detected by miner (claymore, sgminer), also after re-install of drivers. in atiflash the card is shown as polaris 11 and not RX 560, like it was before and after re-flashing of the original/unmodiefied bios. in gpu-z it also shows different then before.

also the miners crash with beta blockchain aug23, 17.6.2 is working ok. OS is win7 x64

If needed I upload the bios.
actually it's doing dual eth/dcr (dcri 45) on dag8 with 11,3/500, only had to +20% PT in TRIXX 6.5

any thoughts how to tune memory?




Hopefully you saved it with ati flasher and not gpu-z?
You patched drivers after flashing card?
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September 28, 2017, 09:19:34 AM
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hi,

maybe someone has an idea what's wrong.

I have the "Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 560 4GD5, 4GB GDDR5, DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort, lite retail (11267-00-20G)"
it came with Micron memory. I saved bios and tried with any BIOS editor I found to copy the 1625 or 1750 strap to the later ones.

the problem is:
after flashing the card is no longer detected by miner (claymore, sgminer), also after re-install of drivers. in atiflash the card is shown as polaris 11 and not RX 560, like it was before and after re-flashing of the original/unmodiefied bios. in gpu-z it also shows different then before.

also the miners crash with beta blockchain aug23, 17.6.2 is working ok. OS is win7 x64

If needed I upload the bios.
actually it's doing dual eth/dcr (dcri 45) on dag8 with 11,3/500, only had to +20% PT in TRIXX 6.5

any thoughts how to tune memory?




Hopefully you saved it with ati flasher and not gpu-z?
You patched drivers after flashing card?

damn, both times NO. where is the patcher?

btw.
I did modify the bios on some RX 580 and that worked without patching drivers and saved bios from GPU-Z, so I thought that must be something different not working on my side
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September 28, 2017, 09:27:48 AM
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damn, both times NO. where is the patcher?

btw.
I did modify the bios on some RX 580 and that worked without patching drivers and saved bios from GPU-Z, so I thought that must be something different not working on my side

Patcher:
https://www.monitortests.com/forum/Thread-AMD-ATI-Pixel-Clock-Patcher

Up to the certain AMD driver there was no need to patch drivers (about 1y or so ago, I think)

GPU-Z is not 100% bad, its just random if it'll mess up saving BIOS...its usually when
you save bios and its size is 512KB instead normal 256KB size
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September 28, 2017, 02:52:52 PM
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damn, both times NO. where is the patcher?

btw.
I did modify the bios on some RX 580 and that worked without patching drivers and saved bios from GPU-Z, so I thought that must be something different not working on my side

Patcher:
https://www.monitortests.com/forum/Thread-AMD-ATI-Pixel-Clock-Patcher

Up to the certain AMD driver there was no need to patch drivers (about 1y or so ago, I think)

GPU-Z is not 100% bad, its just random if it'll mess up saving BIOS...its usually when
you save bios and its size is 512KB instead normal 256KB size

Shoutout to Branko for getting me to 15MH. Everyone buy his mod Smiley Good dude.

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September 28, 2017, 04:20:30 PM
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With all this talk about the Vega 56 accepting an Vega 64 bios, I was wondering the same thing with the RX 560. Anyone ever try flashing a 570 or 580 bios in there?
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September 28, 2017, 05:11:27 PM
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With all this talk about the Vega 56 accepting an Vega 64 bios, I was wondering the same thing with the RX 560. Anyone ever try flashing a 570 or 580 bios in there?

No

If you have to compare it, the most similar situation would be unlocking RX460 into RX560

You can also flash rx470 to rx570 and rx480 to rx580, and thats it
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September 28, 2017, 09:31:41 PM
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damn, both times NO. where is the patcher?

btw.
I did modify the bios on some RX 580 and that worked without patching drivers and saved bios from GPU-Z, so I thought that must be something different not working on my side

Patcher:
https://www.monitortests.com/forum/Thread-AMD-ATI-Pixel-Clock-Patcher

Up to the certain AMD driver there was no need to patch drivers (about 1y or so ago, I think)

GPU-Z is not 100% bad, its just random if it'll mess up saving BIOS...its usually when
you save bios and its size is 512KB instead normal 256KB size

thx Branko, the patcher did the job, but the patched bios was dissapointing. no increase somehow.
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September 28, 2017, 09:38:26 PM
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With all this talk about the Vega 56 accepting an Vega 64 bios, I was wondering the same thing with the RX 560. Anyone ever try flashing a 570 or 580 bios in there?

No

If you have to compare it, the most similar situation would be unlocking RX460 into RX560

You can also flash rx470 to rx570 and rx480 to rx580, and thats it


Thanks for the heads up. Is there any point in moving to the RX 5xx series? Hash improvements?

Also, I just noticed this...
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3399810/flashing-rx470-570.html
"My RX470 is voltage limited somehow, can't go beyond 1340mhz on any voltage, even when I can hit 1340mhz on stock, I once flashed it with RX480's bios (I was testing if I could enabled disabled cores) and then with RX480's power limit, I was hitting 1400mhz easily."

Apparently you can flash the RX470 to an RX480 or RX580... it looks like the same thing as the VEGA. Now I am really wondering if the 460 can be flashed to the 470 etc.
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September 28, 2017, 10:29:38 PM
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It can't...and don't believe everything you read on the net Smiley
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October 03, 2017, 01:30:29 PM
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I also paid Branko to assist with my bios as I was targeting higher XMR speeds. Definitely worth the ETH if plug-n-play bios are not working for you, and you are having trouble pinning down timings with these picky hynix cards.  Branko was friendly and helpful, and I never felt that he was going to run away with my eth, or that he was impatient or tired of working with me.


Just be aware that variations in cards can affect results.  One of my sapphire 560 4g OCs bumped up nicely to 440 from 320h/s with his timings, while the other identical card was resistant to anything but very loose timings at a high clock rate, and still couldn't get past 400.   

It seems that the OC cards from various manufacturers that are using overclocked hynix memory can be tough to tweak and vary from card to card.
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October 03, 2017, 08:04:45 PM
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Thanks Smiley

My only regret is that we didn't check if some Hynix based RX560 uses real 7GHz memory...
I'd like to see what result would that card give...also, trying some elpida or samsung one
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