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Author Topic: [ANN] ChipMixer.com - Bitcoin mixer / Bitcoin tumbler - mixing reinvented  (Read 92458 times)
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Last edit: July 20, 2021, 02:33:43 PM by ranochigo
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 #2281

I think that privacy will be improved even more when Taproot goes mainnet for Bitcoin in few months, so my question is will ChipMixer also benefit from this?\
No. Taproot primarily benefits scripting whereby not all of the possible spending conditions are fulfilled revealed and specifically, Schnorr signatures allows for PK aggregation.

Neither of those are current ChipMixer's usecase, where the private keys are prepared before the user initiates a session and the addresses are normal P2PKH or P2WPKH.

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July 20, 2021, 11:27:59 AM
 #2282

bar the brief moment when I though I'd been given an empty private key because I imported it as legacy (force of habit!) instead of segwit

Although the withdraw page has the correct Electrum prefixes if "Import to Electrum" is clicked, I think that it could be useful to add a red "(p2pkh:)" where the page tells:

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Importing them into Electrum they may require special prefix

But I agree, the topic is covered, people have to just read Smiley

And yes, I've also tried it out the ToR v3 link (thank you @ChipMixer for being kind and let us try it out). All went smoothly, no problems at all!

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July 20, 2021, 11:29:51 AM
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support for bc1 segwit addresses.

I think that privacy will be improved
I got curious, so I checked how many addresses are funded with each respective balance.

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July 20, 2021, 12:34:30 PM
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I'm actually kind of sad to see the current state of DDos'ing... I use my company's laptop 90% of the time, and i'm not allowed to install the tor browser (blacklisted due to company policy). I did beta test using my cellphone, it works great tough... Good job Smiley
Are you allowed to install Brave browser? I would not use it as a main browser but there is also Tor integrated inside Brave browser that would make easy getting around those rules of your company.
I am not saying you should do that Wink

I got curious, so I checked how many addresses are funded with each respective balance.
This is significantly less than addresses starting with 1 but it will slowly grow in time.



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July 20, 2021, 12:51:37 PM
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I'm actually kind of sad to see the current state of DDos'ing... I use my company's laptop 90% of the time, and i'm not allowed to install the tor browser (blacklisted due to company policy). I did beta test using my cellphone, it works great tough... Good job Smiley
Are you allowed to install Brave browser? I would not use it as a main browser but there is also Tor integrated inside Brave browser that would make easy getting around those rules of your company..
I am not saying you should do that Wink

Another idea would be to install a virtual machine onto that laptop and install this kind of things onto the VM, which you can easily dispose completely.
Or you can boot from a Tails USB, and tails comes with Tor browser too.

So there are some ways. Clearly not as comfortable as installing Tor browser directly, still...

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July 20, 2021, 02:37:59 PM
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Yep, had the same issue importing the private-keys without the p2wpkh: prefix. If we all made the same mistake, imagine the other less-tech-savvy users. :P -snip-
I also made a similar mistake when importing a private key into an Electrum wallet (v.3.3.8) without using the prefix p2wpkh:.
Apparently for Electrum must include the prefix p2wpkh: to get Segwit Address.

@Chipmixer, thank you for inviting me to try the onion v3 service in a closed beta.

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Were ChipMixer in a position to offer "clean chips" (coins with no taints or links to markets, other mixers, etc.) that might be extremely popular.

I have no idea how possible/easy/attractive that would be.  That would interest a lot of people however.
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Were ChipMixer in a position to offer "clean chips" (coins with no taints or links to markets, other mixers, etc.) that might be extremely popular.

I have no idea how possible/easy/attractive that would be.  That would interest a lot of people however.
Calling some chips "clean" makes other chips "dirty". This damages Bitcoin reputation making it bad people money. We do not want that.

If we went dishonest and offered "clean chips" without explaining what makes them "clean" we could attract a lot of people especially if we advertised at dark net websites.
But with our price strategy more customers and more volume does not make more money. It makes us want to attract honest privacy minded people that know a lot or want to learn and they know what our tool is worth for them.

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Were ChipMixer in a position to offer "clean chips" (coins with no taints or links to markets, other mixers, etc.) that might be extremely popular.

I have no idea how possible/easy/attractive that would be.  That would interest a lot of people however.
Calling some chips "clean" makes other chips "dirty". This damages Bitcoin reputation making it bad people money. We do not want that.

If we went dishonest and offered "clean chips" without explaining what makes them "clean" we could attract a lot of people especially if we advertised at dark net websites.
But with our price strategy more customers and more volume does not make more money. It makes us want to attract honest privacy minded people that know a lot or want to learn and they know what our tool is worth for them.



Fair enough. 

I was not implying that you should/could offer "clean" chips in any dishonest way.  I also understand that various people have various reasons for wanting enhanced privacy.
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Last edit: November 12, 2023, 09:53:50 AM by Pmalek
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I took part in the beta testing round for the v3 edition of ChipMixer. I've shared my feedback with you over PM and I found no problems with the service. A few hours ago I tried to resume my session just to see what would happen. I entered my session token and noticed this:



It shows the total chips as 0.000 BTC, but underneath that it shows a chip size of 0.002 BTC. I have never had to restore a session in the past, so I don't know if this is the usual layout or not. The coins have already been imported and moved, so why does it show a 0.002 BTC balance in the second field? Was it like that before as well or is this a visual bug? 

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It shows the total chips as 0.000 BTC, but underneath that it shows a chip size of 0.002 BTC. I have never had to restore a session in the past, so I don't know if this is the usual layout or not. The coins have already been imported and moved, so why does it show a 0.002 BTC balance in the second field? Was it like that before as well or is this a visual bug?  
I believe the "total chips" (above) represents the chips you haven't withdrawn yet (a.k.a generated the private key) and can still be merged/split/turned into vouchers, while the "private keys" (below) represents the ones you already withdrew and which private-keys can be seen on the step 3.

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I think you are right. I did make two withdrawals and one deposit when testing the service. After the first withdrawal, I ended the session and started another one with half of the previously withdrawn coins. That 0.002 BTC shown underneath could represent the last amount I deposited, played around with, and withdrew. 

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The page https://chipmixer.one/ (spelled correctly so that google finds the warning) is a new scam page to me.
Very brazen to have the following sentence on the page to let users finally fall into the trap under false facts:

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Attention. Currently chipmixer.com is being subjected to a DDoS attack. The backup address chipmixer.one, works in normal mode.

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 #2294

The page https://chipmixer.one/ (spelled correctly so that google finds the warning) is a new scam page to me.
Very brazen to have the following sentence on the page to let users finally fall into the trap under false facts:

100% a scam website.
They registered this domain just few days ago, and interesting thing I noticed is that they are always offering the same P2SH address starting with 37v9 from their fake page, and I tried different tor identites.
So far there is zero balance and nobody sent or received any transaction.



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Domain Name: chipmixer.one
Registry Domain ID: D0C64A5BE48B14AFC8950CDD619B5D422-GDREG
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.namecheap.com
Registrar URL: http://www.namecheap.com
Updated Date: 2021-07-21T18:33:47Z
Creation Date: 2021-07-16T18:33:47Z
Registry Expiry Date: 2022-07-16T18:33:47Z
Registrar: NameCheap, Inc.

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 #2295

100% a scam website.

Since the [Warning] Fake Chipmixer website thread is locked I thought it belongs in the [ANN] here. Will also mention it in the German part of the forum.

Maybe CryptoYar would like to extend his thread with this domain.
And in addition I have already mentioned it on safebrowsing.google.com.

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That was weird.


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Looks like an expired certificate. I'm also getting an error with the clearnet site.

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Looks like an expired certificate. I'm also getting an error with the clearnet site.

Yep, getting the same. It looks like the certificate was valid (only) between Thu, 22 Apr 2021 21:22:52 GMT and Wed, 21 Jul 2021 21:22:52 GMT (?)

That was weird.

Yeah. I'd just use the Tor v3 link.

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At this point, I believe that there's no reason to use the clearnet website. Not even one. ChipMixer probably wants it for SEO, but if you're familiar with this product, you should mix using Tor.

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July 23, 2021, 11:55:20 AM
Merited by mole0815 (1)
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Since the [Warning] Fake Chipmixer website thread is locked I thought it belongs in the [ANN] here. Will also mention it in the German part of the forum.

Maybe CryptoYar would like to extend his thread with this domain.
And in addition I have already mentioned it on safebrowsing.google.com.
Sorry for the late reply.

I have unlocked the topic and would also like to mention some chipmixer phishing websites have been active for a long time.

E.g 2021-01-30 ->> ChipMixer.cm
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