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Also, how would you know for certain that the coins in question still belong to the scammer at the point they reach ChipMixer?
FBI is investigating and all blockchain data analysis have been called in. if something deserves to be tracked, those currencies will be. Justin Sun and Binance rewarded 1 Million Bounty On Bitcoin Scammers. I don’t assume they will use CoinJoin or central mixing services Breaking Mixing Services. bitcoin is pseudonymous so chipmixer.com will be one of the places that will be used. this remember me to The lagest Bitcoin mixer is about to stop workingI have some research on hybrid technology. Neither coinjoin mixing technology nor traditional mixer can resist chain analysis (many mixers belong to the second generation mixing technology). The only innovative currency mixer is chipmixer.com At the moment, I can't break its anonymity.
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With the development of stain analysis technology, one day chipmixer.com Anonymity may be broken! Let's count (potential) chips, which is all addresses funded with a specific amount. From List of all Bitcoin addresses with a balance: 1 m BTC: 265288 addresses 2 m BTC: 67005 addresses 4 m BTC: 30375 addresses 8 m BTC: 15431 addresses 16 m BTC: 7897 addresses 32 m BTC: 3878 addresses 64 m BTC: 1678 addresses 128 m BTC: 1155 addresses 256 m BTC: 597 addresses 500 m BTC: 37896 addresses 512 m BTC: 347 addresses 1000 m BTC: 88063 addresses 1024 m BTC: 338 addresses 2048 m BTC: 114 addresses 4096 m BTC: 145 addresses 8192 m BTC: 57 addresses I made a similar list 12 days ago. Disclaimer: this counts the total remaining balance, so addresses with more than 1 input or even outputs are also included.I found that there are many bitcoin addresses for integers, such as 1btc, 0.5btc, 1M, 2m, 4m, 8m. Each integer bitcoin address has tens of thousands of addresses. If you hide yourself in tens of thousands of addresses. It is really impossible to trace the major breakthrough factors in the analysis of the combined confrontation chain,,, I'm a novice. Do you mean the more addresses the chips are, the more anonymous they are? 1 m BTC: 265288 addresses 2 m BTC: 67005 addresses 4 m BTC: 30375 addresses 8 m BTC: 15431 addresses 500 m BTC: 37896 addresses 1000 m BTC: 88063 addresses
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I'm a novice. I hate something, Why not use the generic model and allow people to switch to the chips they like 2048 m BTC: change to 2btc 4096 m BTC: change to 4 BTCs 8192 m BTC: change to 8 BTCs
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I'm a novice. I hate something, Why not use the generic model and allow people to switch to the chips they like 2048 m BTC: change to 2btc 4096 m BTC: change to 4 BTCs 8192 m BTC: change to 8 BTCs
The rationale behind this is actually explained in the FAQ: We wanted to have a lot of chip sizes and to easily split/merge them. if you start with 1 BTC and you split it, your minimal chip is 0.015625 BTC which seems even weirder. And in case you really, really want "round" BTC chips: [...] We have introduced commonize function which will swap your weird looking 1.024 BTC chip into 1 BTC chip and weird looking 0.512 BTC into 0.5 BTC.
Using this action will cost you the weird part of chip which is around 2% fee. A fee of 2% is well within the range that is customary for mixing services.
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Do you mean the more addresses the chips are, the more anonymous they are? In general: yes! Having more potential matches makes it less likely to find the one you're looking for. I hate something, Why not use the generic model and allow people to switch to the chips they like 2048 m BTC: change to 2btc 4096 m BTC: change to 4 BTCs 8192 m BTC: change to 8 BTCs You can go a step further: 10 BTC sounds better than 8 too! But it doesn't fit the "split" and "merge" options.
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Why not use the generic model and allow people to switch to the chips they like 2048 m BTC: change to 2btc 4096 m BTC: change to 4 BTCs 8192 m BTC: change to 8 BTCs They do, there is a "commonize" function starting from 0.512 BTC. You pay around 2,35 % fee with doing that. EDIT: Did not see the post of HeRetiK before, sorry.
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Do you mean the more addresses the chips are, the more anonymous they are?
It is best to compare it with other mixing services. If you mix with common mixer - you deposit 1 BTC at one address and receive sum of 1 BTC at two-three addresses around 24 hours later. Those transactions may be matched and solved like sudoku puzzle. If you mix with Coin Join - you deposit 1 BTC and nine other people deposit 1 BTC. Then all of you receive 1 BTC with same transaction and your identity is "you are one of the ten" (which is why you do many rounds of mixing). If you mix with us - you deposit 1 BTC and receive 1000 mBTC worth of chips created up to month before your deposit. You pick chip sizes to withdraw, you pick when to spend them and at what combination - which mean that every existing chip (both before and after your deposit) increases your privacy.
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I'm a novice. I hate something, Why not use the generic model and allow people to switch to the chips they like 2048 m BTC: change to 2btc 4096 m BTC: change to 4 BTCs 8192 m BTC: change to 8 BTCs
The rationale behind this is actually explained in the FAQ: We wanted to have a lot of chip sizes and to easily split/merge them. if you start with 1 BTC and you split it, your minimal chip is 0.015625 BTC which seems even weirder. And in case you really, really want "round" BTC chips: [...] We have introduced commonize function which will swap your weird looking 1.024 BTC chip into 1 BTC chip and weird looking 0.512 BTC into 0.5 BTC.
Using this action will cost you the weird part of chip which is around 2% fee. A fee of 2% is well within the range that is customary for mixing services. All chips should refer to the general function, 2048 m BTC: change to 2btc. 4096 m BTC: change to 4btc. Bt8192. Let's choose more general functions. In fact, 2.4% of the cost is reasonable. If all chips use universal functions, even 5% of the cost will not care
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Do you mean the more addresses the chips are, the more anonymous they are?
It is best to compare it with other mixing services. If you mix with common mixer - you deposit 1 BTC at one address and receive sum of 1 BTC at two-three addresses around 24 hours later. Those transactions may be matched and solved like sudoku puzzle. If you mix with Coin Join - you deposit 1 BTC and nine other people deposit 1 BTC. Then all of you receive 1 BTC with same transaction and your identity is "you are one of the ten" (which is why you do many rounds of mixing). If you mix with us - you deposit 1 BTC and receive 1000 mBTC worth of chips created up to month before your deposit. You pick chip sizes to withdraw, you pick when to spend them and at what combination - which mean that every existing chip (both before and after your deposit) increases your privacy. Hello, I'm a novice! I want to know how to operate to be absolutely anonymous. I have a large amount of bitcoin cleaning, how much BTC should be cleaned every day is reasonable. Option: I clean 10-500 BTC every day?
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July 21, 2020, 12:40:11 AM Last edit: July 21, 2020, 09:08:49 AM by Vispilio |
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Do you mean the more addresses the chips are, the more anonymous they are?
It is best to compare it with other mixing services. If you mix with common mixer - you deposit 1 BTC at one address and receive sum of 1 BTC at two-three addresses around 24 hours later. Those transactions may be matched and solved like sudoku puzzle. If you mix with Coin Join - you deposit 1 BTC and nine other people deposit 1 BTC. Then all of you receive 1 BTC with same transaction and your identity is "you are one of the ten" (which is why you do many rounds of mixing). If you mix with us - you deposit 1 BTC and receive 1000 mBTC worth of chips created up to month before your deposit. You pick chip sizes to withdraw, you pick when to spend them and at what combination - which mean that every existing chip (both before and after your deposit) increases your privacy. Hi ChipMixer, An increasing number of people believe that there is ongoing nepotism and corruption greatly damaging the prestige, brand value and relevance of Bitcointalk, and this also has direct consequences on who gets selected to the best bounty campaigns. Have you ever discussed how to alleviate these issues with your campaign manager, or has he every commented on the situation for your benefit ? Have you ever seen or been made aware of these two threads? 1) 🔥 [Defamation] At Its Worst During ChipMixer Applications 🔥2) Vile Chipmixer Bounty Abuse, Probably the Biggest Con Job on BitcointalkSpecifically, one of the most active sections of the forum, Turkish local has become grossly dejected after all the influential members there incurred excessive libel, defamation and coercion to change their trust lists, so all the highly qualified members from that section would be effectively disqualified from your prestigious campaign. The end result: one of the most crypto-enthusiastic regions in the world currently has absolutely no Chipmixer banners circulating... Would be fantastic if you can review these travesties and give your feedback to me either here or privately. All the Best, Vispilio
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All chips should refer to the general function, 2048 m BTC: change to 2btc. 4096 m BTC: change to 4btc. Bt8192. Let's choose more general functions. To continue this list, let's see how many addresses hold such amounts: 1000 m BTC: 88063 addresses 1024 m BTC: 338 addresses 2000 m BTC: 17472 addresses 2048 m BTC: 114 addresses 4000 m BTC: 4332 addresses 4096 m BTC: 145 addresses 8000 m BTC: 1318 addresses 8192 m BTC: 57 addresses 16000 mBTC: 317 addresses 16384 mBTC: 2 addresses 32000 mBTC: 112 addresses 32768 mBTC: 0 addressesMy guess is not many people would use the option to convert 8192 m BTC into 8000 m BTC, while it requires a large amount of Bitcoin to be held in those chips.
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All chips should refer to the general function, 2048 m BTC: change to 2btc. 4096 m BTC: change to 4btc. Bt8192. Let's choose more general functions. To continue this list, let's see how many addresses hold such amounts: 1000 m BTC: 88063 addresses 1024 m BTC: 338 addresses 2000 m BTC: 17472 addresses 2048 m BTC: 114 addresses 4000 m BTC: 4332 addresses 4096 m BTC: 145 addresses 8000 m BTC: 1318 addresses 8192 m BTC: 57 addresses 16000 mBTC: 317 addresses 16384 mBTC: 2 addresses 32000 mBTC: 112 addresses 32768 mBTC: 0 addressesMy guess is not many people would use the option to convert 8192 m BTC into 8000 m BTC, while it requires a large amount of Bitcoin to be held in those chips. 2000m BTC: 17472 address. 4000 m BTC: 4332 addresses 2000 m BTC+ 4000 m BTCUse general functions,There are more choices
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Hello there! Due to the incident with Twitter, I think that ChipMixer server could be seized as it had happened to BestMixer. So, you, guys better move your server out of EU and USA - somewhere in offshore. Whois record says that your server is located in Hessen - Frankfurt Am Main. Don't make bestmixer's faults.
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Hello there! Due to the incident with Twitter, I think that ChipMixer server could be seized as it had happened to BestMixer. So, you, guys better move your server out of EU and USA - somewhere in offshore. Whois record says that your server is located in Hessen - Frankfurt Am Main. Don't make bestmixer's faults.
Hi, bitmaker999 you're right. The twitter incident involves a lot of celebrities. It's a sensation all over the world. The law enforcement department of the United States will definitely follow it up to the end. The only way to trust and anonymous chipmixer is for community members. Community members don't want to lose you.
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Also, how would you know for certain that the coins in question still belong to the scammer at the point they reach ChipMixer?
FBI is investigating and all blockchain data analysis have been called in. if something deserves to be tracked, those currencies will be. Justin Sun and Binance rewarded 1 Million Bounty On Bitcoin Scammers. I don’t assume they will use CoinJoin or central mixing services Breaking Mixing Services. bitcoin is pseudonymous so chipmixer.com will be one of the places that will be used. this remember me to The lagest Bitcoin mixer is about to stop workingI have some research on hybrid technology. Neither coinjoin mixing technology nor traditional mixer can resist chain analysis (many mixers belong to the second generation mixing technology). The only innovative currency mixer is chipmixer.com At the moment, I can't break its anonymity. Hi! 121425366@qq.com Hello, I'm a novice! I've been visiting the forum for some time. Many experts have bachelor's degree theses. I believe chipmixer is the most anonymous technology. Can you give me some advice? Through chipmixer cleaning, how much BTC should be cleaned every day is reasonable! I want to know how to be completely anonymous, what details do I pay attention to, what is the hacker's mistake? https://blog.clain.io/binance-hack-2019-deep-dive-into-the-money-laundering/
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Also, how would you know for certain that the coins in question still belong to the scammer at the point they reach ChipMixer?
FBI is investigating and all blockchain data analysis have been called in. if something deserves to be tracked, those currencies will be. Justin Sun and Binance rewarded 1 Million Bounty On Bitcoin Scammers. I don’t assume they will use CoinJoin or central mixing services Breaking Mixing Services. bitcoin is pseudonymous so chipmixer.com will be one of the places that will be used. this remember me to The lagest Bitcoin mixer is about to stop workingI have some research on hybrid technology. Neither coinjoin mixing technology nor traditional mixer can resist chain analysis (many mixers belong to the second generation mixing technology). The only innovative currency mixer is chipmixer.com At the moment, I can't break its anonymity. Hi! 121425366@qq.com Hello, I'm a novice! I've been visiting the forum for some time. Many experts have bachelor's degree theses. I believe chipmixer is the most anonymous technology. Can you give me some advice? Through chipmixer cleaning, how much BTC should be cleaned every day is reasonable! I want to know how to be completely anonymous, what details do I pay attention to, what is the hacker's mistake? https://blog.clain.io/binance-hack-2019-deep-dive-into-the-money-laundering/I suggest that large amounts of coins must be mixed slowly, ranging from 10 to 100 BTC every day. Hackers are unprofessional about Bitcoin mixing, and the details are not done well. Hackers think that mixing through chipmixer.com will be anonymous, and the blockchain is public. The data exists forever and anyone can access it at any time. "Total anonymity" is a university question. You can’t make mistakes. Chipmixer.com can only cut off the tracking of input and output, and adds a lot of anonymous features. Chips, each chip has tens of thousands of times the address for you to hide, merge, split, spend at any time, or temporarily spend, and there are many more) This is great. If you use it correctly, the security agency cannot track the source. If you want to be "completely anonymous", follow-up work depends on you. The hacker’s mistakes are merged together. This is a fatal error. Even a lot of private key bitcoins are sent to the same address. This is a failure, so it is easy to trace. After all, few people mix more than one hundred in this time period. Bitcoin, it is easy to think of what hackers do. The correct approach is to send each private key to an address and must not be merged together. Only by doing the details can you successfully mix the currency.
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July 22, 2020, 11:36:11 PM |
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Also, how would you know for certain that the coins in question still belong to the scammer at the point they reach ChipMixer?
FBI is investigating and all blockchain data analysis have been called in. if something deserves to be tracked, those currencies will be. Justin Sun and Binance rewarded 1 Million Bounty On Bitcoin Scammers. I don’t assume they will use CoinJoin or central mixing services Breaking Mixing Services. bitcoin is pseudonymous so chipmixer.com will be one of the places that will be used. this remember me to The lagest Bitcoin mixer is about to stop workingI have some research on hybrid technology. Neither coinjoin mixing technology nor traditional mixer can resist chain analysis (many mixers belong to the second generation mixing technology). The only innovative currency mixer is chipmixer.com At the moment, I can't break its anonymity. Hi! 121425366@qq.com Hello, I'm a novice! I've been visiting the forum for some time. Many experts have bachelor's degree theses. I believe chipmixer is the most anonymous technology. Can you give me some advice? Through chipmixer cleaning, how much BTC should be cleaned every day is reasonable! I want to know how to be completely anonymous, what details do I pay attention to, what is the hacker's mistake? https://blog.clain.io/binance-hack-2019-deep-dive-into-the-money-laundering/I suggest that large amounts of coins must be mixed slowly, ranging from 10 to 100 BTC every day. Hackers are unprofessional about Bitcoin mixing, and the details are not done well. Hackers think that mixing through chipmixer.com will be anonymous, and the blockchain is public. The data exists forever and anyone can access it at any time. "Total anonymity" is a university question. You can’t make mistakes. Chipmixer.com can only cut off the tracking of input and output, and adds a lot of anonymous features. Chips, each chip has tens of thousands of times the address for you to hide, merge, split, spend at any time, or temporarily spend, and there are many more) This is great. If you use it correctly, the security agency cannot track the source. If you want to be "completely anonymous", follow-up work depends on you. The hacker’s mistakes are merged together. This is a fatal error. Even a lot of private key bitcoins are sent to the same address. This is a failure, so it is easy to trace. After all, few people mix more than one hundred in this time period. Bitcoin, it is easy to think of what hackers do. The correct approach is to send each private key to an address and must not be merged together. Only by doing the details can you successfully mix the currency. Thank you for your answer
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i got an question @figmentofmyass: i agree that many users sacrifice privacy by sweeping outputs together, and/or immediately, after mixing. ideally they would hold onto chips until they need them (throwing off time attacks) and spend them one at a time. so when it's time to sweep ? example : deposit coins --> get voucher --> wait 2 weeks --> redeem voucher --> withdraw chips --> import private keys to wallet best regards moejoejay
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July 24, 2020, 03:42:44 PM |
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so when it's time to sweep ?
example : deposit coins --> get voucher --> wait 2 weeks --> redeem voucher --> withdraw chips --> import private keys to wallet
For optimal privacy it's never. If you can help it, don't put all your funds together in one address. You can merge a few like if you had a 0.512 chip and a few 0.002 chops and you wanted to get something for $60 then you could clearly merge those small chips together if necessary but I'd try to keep other chips separate.
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July 24, 2020, 04:41:27 PM |
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@jackg:
ok split chips for differrent adresses, ok thats clear thats extends the privacy, got it
but what when i want to get rid of the impact of chipmixer and want to exchange the keys ( sweeping) ?
which time is enough to wait to still hold an certain level of privacy ?
best regards
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