[ANN] ChipMixer.com - Bitcoin mixer / Bitcoin tumbler - mixing reinvented

[x31337]

It would appear that chipmixer.io is currently offline/down...

ChipMixer.com is our main domain.
We were under DDoS attack. Tor service was not affected.

Yeah, i just got my chips trough Tor. But after the confirmed transaction i got this notice, i worried a bit.
Thank you for gr8 service.

If i'm mixing .512 btc, and i would receive .05 the remaining .012 BTC will be donated?


OFF: What is the requirements for Sr. Member?

[mk4]

So it seems the more the service is popular the faster it will fail

Err. You're probably right to some extent. Whatever that caused bitmixer to close(I forgot what caused them to close), might can also be the cause ChipMixer to close in the future if it was something involving the government or something. I hope not though.

It would appear that chipmixer.io is currently offline/down...

ChipMixer.com is our main domain.
We were under DDoS attack. Tor service was not affected.

OFF: What is the requirements for Sr. Member?

240 activity. Link on ranks: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178608.0

[ChipMixer]

I suspected as much, but figured it wasn't my place to say so... honestly, why do people do this sort of thing? What do they gain out of it?

You may DDoS and ask for ransom.
You can DDoS your competitors website to get their customers.
You can DDoS a Tor node to try to find it.
You can DDoS a service you hate.

Lots of reasons. Internet is not a friendly place.

If i'm mixing .512 btc, and i would receive .05 the remaining .012 BTC will be donated?

If you send 0.512 BTC (512 mBTC) to deposit address, you will receive 512 mBTC chip. You can split it into smaller ones and donate as much as you want.

Whatever that caused bitmixer to close(I forgot what caused them to close), might can also be the cause ChipMixer to close in the future if it was something involving the government or something.

Nobody knows what caused them do close. There is only speculation for example here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2194145.20

[shield132]

Whatever that caused bitmixer to close(I forgot what caused them to close), might can also be the cause ChipMixer to close in the future if it was something involving the government or something.

Nobody knows what caused them do close. There is only speculation for example here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2194145.20

Thanks chipmixer for posting my thread's link here.
Man as they claim they closed it because they think bitcoin won't be used for drugs and etc.. In reality it's not reason and I hope people realize it. They wouldn't say that they are afraid because of alphabay was seized and their mixer was used to send coins here. I believe they lied reason and I believe they shut down their website to avoid being in jail and I appreciate such smart way (some people are so numb, they would continue service to get much and much money). Also bitmixer was pure profit machine, they had huge profit, it was millions in year.
Reason of bitmixer's close was seize of known drug markets, that's all, they were source of their money and if they would continue service, they would be seized also.

[warningsigns]

I suspected as much, but figured it wasn't my place to say so... honestly, why do people do this sort of thing? What do they gain out of it?

Perhaps other mixers desperate to destroy the competition? There are some with a dodgy reputation who are probably struggling to lure victims. Then you have those offering genuine and legitimate mixing services but can't make ends meet with the low turnover from the few users mixing coins on their sites.

Then of course you have those malicious actors who take pleasure in destroying other people's work or who resent their success.

Envy knows no bounds. People filled with it will do things that cross the bounds of human decency.

[x31337]

If i'm mixing .512 btc, and i would receive .05 the remaining .012 BTC will be donated?

If you send 0.512 BTC (512 mBTC) to deposit address, you will receive 512 mBTC chip. You can split it into smaller ones and donate as much as you want.

I did. I mean, i commonized into .05 btc then the rest been donated.

We have introduced commonize function which will swap your weird looking 1.024 BTC chip into 1 BTC chip and weird looking 0.512 BTC into 0.5 BTC.
Using this action will cost you the weird part of chip which is around 2% fee.

Then i found in the FAQ.

mjglqw ; Thanks!

[btcton]

I suspected as much, but figured it wasn't my place to say so... honestly, why do people do this sort of thing? What do they gain out of it?

Perhaps other mixers desperate to destroy the competition? There are some with a dodgy reputation who are probably struggling to lure victims. Then you have those offering genuine and legitimate mixing services but can't make ends meet with the low turnover from the few users mixing coins on their sites.

Then of course you have those malicious actors who take pleasure in destroying other people's work or who resent their success.

Envy knows no bounds. People filled with it will do things that cross the bounds of human decency.

Eh, it's actually fairly worthless to try to do it that way. A DDoS attack is only a temporary method of attacking a website in the sense that once it is over, it's over without any real consequences afterwards. The denial of service also can't really last that long without too many resources. I don't see any mixers really benefiting from doing this either, but it is certainly possible to try to get the business of those people trying to mix their coins at that time and then looking for an alternative. There really isn't that much to gain, though.

[DarkStar_]

I suspected as much, but figured it wasn't my place to say so... honestly, why do people do this sort of thing? What do they gain out of it?

Perhaps other mixers desperate to destroy the competition? There are some with a dodgy reputation who are probably struggling to lure victims. Then you have those offering genuine and legitimate mixing services but can't make ends meet with the low turnover from the few users mixing coins on their sites.

Then of course you have those malicious actors who take pleasure in destroying other people's work or who resent their success.

Envy knows no bounds. People filled with it will do things that cross the bounds of human decency.

Eh, it's actually fairly worthless to try to do it that way. A DDoS attack is only a temporary method of attacking a website in the sense that once it is over, it's over without any real consequences afterwards. The denial of service also can't really last that long without too many resources. I don't see any mixers really benefiting from doing this either, but it is certainly possible to try to get the business of those people trying to mix their coins at that time and then looking for an alternative. There really isn't that much to gain, though.

They might be looking for a large ransom, or it could be state actors. DDoS can last for a long period of time. There was a pretty long (IIRC over a week) DDoS on ProtonMail a while back that was very strong.

[audaciousbeing]

I suspected as much, but figured it wasn't my place to say so... honestly, why do people do this sort of thing? What do they gain out of it?

Perhaps other mixers desperate to destroy the competition? There are some with a dodgy reputation who are probably struggling to lure victims. Then you have those offering genuine and legitimate mixing services but can't make ends meet with the low turnover from the few users mixing coins on their sites.

Then of course you have those malicious actors who take pleasure in destroying other people's work or who resent their success.

Envy knows no bounds. People filled with it will do things that cross the bounds of human decency.

Eh, it's actually fairly worthless to try to do it that way. A DDoS attack is only a temporary method of attacking a website in the sense that once it is over, it's over without any real consequences afterwards. The denial of service also can't really last that long without too many resources. I don't see any mixers really benefiting from doing this either, but it is certainly possible to try to get the business of those people trying to mix their coins at that time and then looking for an alternative. There really isn't that much to gain, though.

A sane individual does not do anything without reason. The reason you have stated might not be monetary but I tell you there is always something at risk.

It could be to send a message that those of you here, " you are not safe" or to make the site lose revenue because you don't know the amount of people that might have patronised other services because of such down time.

Another could be to make clients lose confidence among several reasons as Darkstar pointed out.

[smbc]

such a mess. just sent some coins, a quite large amount actually to your mixer, and 5 sec later the website was down

504 Gateway Time-out

fuck, what to do now??

[LoyceV]

such a mess. just sent some coins, a quite large amount actually to your mixer, and 5 sec later the website was down

504 Gateway Time-out

, what to do now??

https://chipmixer.com/ works fine here at the moment. Just try again now? If you still encounter problems, click Contact on the top-right.
In general: it's always wise to safe your session token or bookmark the link to restore you session before sending any coins, just in case something happens.

[mk4]

I suspected as much, but figured it wasn't my place to say so... honestly, why do people do this sort of thing? What do they gain out of it?

You may DDoS and ask for ransom.
You can DDoS your competitors website to get their customers.
You can DDoS a Tor node to try to find it.
You can DDoS a service you hate.

Lots of reasons. Internet is not a friendly place.

If i'm mixing .512 btc, and i would receive .05 the remaining .012 BTC will be donated?

If you send 0.512 BTC (512 mBTC) to deposit address, you will receive 512 mBTC chip. You can split it into smaller ones and donate as much as you want.

Whatever that caused bitmixer to close(I forgot what caused them to close), might can also be the cause ChipMixer to close in the future if it was something involving the government or something.

Nobody knows what caused them do close. There is only speculation for example here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2194145.20

Yes I was also speculating. I'm not saying it was because of government intervention, it's just that I couldn't think of any reason besides that for them to close just all of a sudden, hence my assumption. Just my guess. I could be wrong ofcourse.

such a mess. just sent some coins, a quite large amount actually to your mixer, and 5 sec later the website was down

504 Gateway Time-out

fuck, what to do now??

Seems like the main site is still getting DDoSed. For now it would probably be better to access chipmixer through the Tor link.

[salsa321]

i'm pretty sure admin fix it ASAP just wait any confirmation from him,
i've no idea if ddos from another competitor but honestly nothing possible,because too much bitcoin mixing service now

[richardsNY]

i've no idea if ddos from another competitor but honestly nothing possible,because too much bitcoin mixing service now

At this point it's safe to say that there aren't any actual competitors for ChipMixer -- all other mixers have not yet proven to be fully trustworthy, which results in them having a hard time attracting more people to use their service. I am glad that ChipMixer is building itself up nicely, otherwise I would basically be forced to expose my funds to great risks when making use of a mixing service that is relatively new in the game, and that's obviously not something to look forward to.

[Graphics]

i've no idea if ddos from another competitor but honestly nothing possible,because too much bitcoin mixing service now

At this point it's safe to say that there aren't any actual competitors for ChipMixer -- all other mixers have not yet proven to be fully trustworthy, which results in them having a hard time attracting more people to use their service. I am glad that ChipMixer is building itself up nicely, otherwise I would basically be forced to expose my funds to great risks when making use of a mixing service that is relatively new in the game, and that's obviously not something to look forward to.

Chipmixer's website is mostly based on java script (NOT SAFE?!) and unlike the company in my signature (they put 10 BTC in escrow) they don't have any guarantee. their  private keys could be hacked and leaked. So I think you got it completely wrong lad.

[btcton]

i've no idea if ddos from another competitor but honestly nothing possible,because too much bitcoin mixing service now

At this point it's safe to say that there aren't any actual competitors for ChipMixer -- all other mixers have not yet proven to be fully trustworthy, which results in them having a hard time attracting more people to use their service. I am glad that ChipMixer is building itself up nicely, otherwise I would basically be forced to expose my funds to great risks when making use of a mixing service that is relatively new in the game, and that's obviously not something to look forward to.

Chipmixer's website is mostly based on java script (NOT SAFE?!) and unlike the company in my signature (they put 10 BTC in escrow) they don't have any guarantee. their  private keys could be hacked and leaked. So I think you got it completely wrong lad.

Huh? What do you mean JavaScript is not safe? As a system administrator and developerwho has used JavaScript very widely before, I can tell you that this is completely unfounded. JavaScript is only unsafe if you code in such way as to allow cross-site/external JavaScript scripts to run inside your website, which I am sure anyone with some decent knowledge of JavaScript knows how to prevent. Furthermore, there is no reason to trust whatever mixer it is you are advertising more than any other. You failed to elaborate on your point and just blindly claimed that their guarantee is to be trusted.

[Graphics]

i've no idea if ddos from another competitor but honestly nothing possible,because too much bitcoin mixing service now

At this point it's safe to say that there aren't any actual competitors for ChipMixer -- all other mixers have not yet proven to be fully trustworthy, which results in them having a hard time attracting more people to use their service. I am glad that ChipMixer is building itself up nicely, otherwise I would basically be forced to expose my funds to great risks when making use of a mixing service that is relatively new in the game, and that's obviously not something to look forward to.

Chipmixer's website is mostly based on java script (NOT SAFE?!) and unlike the company in my signature (they put 10 BTC in escrow) they don't have any guarantee. their  private keys could be hacked and leaked. So I think you got it completely wrong lad.

Huh? What do you mean JavaScript is not safe? As a system administrator and developerwho has used JavaScript very widely before, I can tell you that this is completely unfounded. JavaScript is only unsafe if you code in such way as to allow cross-site/external JavaScript scripts to run inside your website, which I am sure anyone with some decent knowledge of JavaScript knows how to prevent. Furthermore, there is no reason to trust whatever mixer it is you are advertising more than any other. You failed to elaborate on your point and just blindly claimed that their guarantee is to be trusted.

Stop bullshit idiot, every experienced programmer/user knows that with java script the programmer/administrator could steal your cookies (from any website) and forcing users to perform actions that they did not intend (IP LEAKING?! and much more) very unsafe for a mixing service.

fucking moron.

[HCP]

... every experienced programmer/user knows that with java script the programmer/administrator could steal your cookies (from any website) and forcing users to perform actions that they did not intend (IP LEAKING?! and much more) very unsafe for a mixing service.

I'm assuming you actually mean... "very unsafe for USERS of a mixing service"

But my question would be, why would the programmer/administrator need to steal cookies from users? The users are voluntarily giving them BTC... Who cares about some IP addresses and cookies when you can just wait until you get given a bunch of BTC and walk away... why hack your own JS?

I see that the other site utilises PHP... a quick perusal of google using words like "php" and "vulnerability" cough up an awful lot of pages regarding security flaws in PHP... just like there are many ones about JS... At the end of the day, you are putting faith in any 3rd Party service that they have used appropriate methods to secure their systems, regardless of the systems in use. Using the "safest" system in the world isn't any good if you leave the door unlocked

Also, while it is a great show that they've put 10 BTC in escrow... aside from the word of the mixer admins and the escrowing party, is there any real way for them to actually prove that they are actually independent of each other and they're not best friends (or the same persons)?

#foodForThought

[ChipMixer]

such a mess. just sent some coins, a quite large amount actually to your mixer, and 5 sec later the website was down

504 Gateway Time-out

fuck, what to do now??

If clearnet site is unstable, please check Tor one. If you cannot, wait till we get online. You have 48h. You can also send us an e-mail to extend your session.

they put 10 BTC in escrow

If you have 5 BTC daily volume then it is good amount of escrow.
If you have 100 BTC daily volume then it is false security.

[Graphics]

... every experienced programmer/user knows that with java script the programmer/administrator could steal your cookies (from any website) and forcing users to perform actions that they did not intend (IP LEAKING?! and much more) very unsafe for a mixing service.

I'm assuming you actually mean... "very unsafe for USERS of a mixing service"

But my question would be, why would the programmer/administrator need to steal cookies from users? The users are voluntarily giving them BTC... Who cares about some IP addresses and cookies when you can just wait until you get given a bunch of BTC and walk away... why hack your own JS?

I see that the other site utilises PHP... a quick perusal of google using words like "php" and "vulnerability" cough up an awful lot of pages regarding security flaws in PHP... just like there are many ones about JS... At the end of the day, you are putting faith in any 3rd Party service that they have used appropriate methods to secure their systems, regardless of the systems in use. Using the "safest" system in the world isn't any good if you leave the door unlocked

Also, while it is a great show that they've put 10 BTC in escrow... aside from the word of the mixer admins and the escrowing party, is there any real way for them to actually prove that they are actually independent of each other and they're not best friends (or the same persons)?

#foodForThought

Why would EXCHANGE exit scam? why would DARKNET market exit scam? javascript is  simply a very smart way of stealing money, user is trying to mix his bitcoins and got infected by miner or malicious Trojan that expose his computer to hackers to steal a bigger amount. Who's using unsafe website with javascript is a totally idiot.

such a mess. just sent some coins, a quite large amount actually to your mixer, and 5 sec later the website was down

504 Gateway Time-out

fuck, what to do now??

If clearnet site is unstable, please check Tor one. If you cannot, wait till we get online. You have 48h. You can also send us an e-mail to extend your session.

they put 10 BTC in escrow

If you have 5 BTC daily volume then it is good amount of escrow.
If you have 100 BTC daily volume then it is false security.

I guess you will never know how much bitcoins they actually mix and what's their  daily volume. they put something in escrow, something u haven't done. disable javascript for your customers sake