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June 05, 2017, 08:50:37 AM
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Just imagine. If ALL OF US would be rich, that means we would live our lives out from dividends, or any passive income of at least $1k a month. Then it would be jawesome, right ? Well, but then I do have a question.
WHO on this Earth would bake the bread for ALL OF US ?
Robots, you might say?
OK, nice idea.
But then, WHO on Earth would maintenance these robots ?
Another robots ?
I don't think so.
Even if so, even if there would be a Skynet of robots, who would not just bake the bread, but also harvest the grains, transport it, deliver to our doors. What then ?
We could eat for free, as much as you want?
Cool, but what about overweight then.
Doctor? But hey wait, NO ONE on this Earth work, so we have no doctors.
OK, we have Doctor Robots.
Who would teach our kids? Robots! Who would change the diapres? Robot!
Even if humans would master all this, we would need to have all the knowledge to teach our robots to work for us. To be slaves for us. (no minds, just pure robotic hands/arms and so on, Tesla's and autopilots)
But even then, there is one huge problem.
I do not want to touch any country, or race, or group of people, but imagine, if you put infinite amount of resources to any kind of animal (including humans), they would reproduce themselves to infinite. Because they simply can. Because parents do not need to parent their kids anymore, because we have robots! So we would need a limit of reproducing, no right to reproduce as much as you can handle (infinite resources), because we would simple have like 50-100billion people on this planet, and there would be no robots who could grow so much grains to bake bread. (perhaps hyper dense pills could be the away).
So, back to the original question, why do people believe, they all can be rich ?
It was, is, and will be, ALWAYS about that who is going to earn more, not enough, but more than the others.
Why?
If there is only one mansion on the Bahamas, which is large enough, sunny enough, sexy enough, there is no freaking way, ALL OF US could buy it. Just one. 1. One. And if only 10 buyers come with their million, to who would seller sell this mansion to? First ? But second also have million and ALL OF US want to be rich (own that one mansion). So second would have to offer 2 million, right?
Wrong.
No one would want to sell such mansion in the first place, as he is already rich. We all are.
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June 05, 2017, 08:57:19 AM
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Just imagine. If ALL OF US would be rich, that means we would live our lives out from dividends, or any passive income of at least $1k a month. Then it would be jawesome, right ? Well, but then I do have a question.
WHO on this Earth would bake the bread for ALL OF US ?
Robots, you might say?
OK, nice idea.
But then, WHO on Earth would maintenance these robots ?
Another robots ?
I don't think so.
Even if so, even if there would be a Skynet of robots, who would not just bake the bread, but also harvest the grains, transport it, deliver to our doors. What then ?
We could eat for free, as much as you want?
Cool, but what about overweight then.
Doctor? But hey wait, NO ONE on this Earth work, so we have no doctors.
OK, we have Doctor Robots.
Who would teach our kids? Robots! Who would change the diapres? Robot!
Even if humans would master all this, we would need to have all the knowledge to teach our robots to work for us. To be slaves for us. (no minds, just pure robotic hands/arms and so on, Tesla's and autopilots)
But even then, there is one huge problem.
I do not want to touch any country, or race, or group of people, but imagine, if you put infinite amount of resources to any kind of animal (including humans), they would reproduce themselves to infinite. Because they simply can. Because parents do not need to parent their kids anymore, because we have robots! So we would need a limit of reproducing, no right to reproduce as much as you can handle (infinite resources), because we would simple have like 50-100billion people on this planet, and there would be no robots who could grow so much grains to bake bread. (perhaps hyper dense pills could be the away).
So, back to the original question, why do people believe, they all can be rich ?
It was, is, and will be, ALWAYS about that who is going to earn more, not enough, but more than the others.
Why?
If there is only one mansion on the Bahamas, which is large enough, sunny enough, sexy enough, there is no freaking way, ALL OF US could buy it. Just one. 1. One. And if only 10 buyers come with their million, to who would seller sell this mansion to? First ? But second also have million and ALL OF US want to be rich (own that one mansion). So second would have to offer 2 million, right?
Wrong.
No one would want to sell such mansion in the first place, as he is already rich. We all are.
It true tyat everybody wants to be rich but not by just magic but also through our various endeavours in our activities being rich as an accountant will not mean I will stop being an accountant or the barber will just quit without making alternative. Also, the meaning of riches differ from people to people while riches to others mean that they should be able to meet their needs as at when due and doing their daily jobs, others are planning in the direction of being wealthy and that is when you get to recieve dividends.

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June 05, 2017, 10:16:08 AM
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That's true and good point. So imagine I am barber.. but rich (no need to work, but I do it because I like it). Let's say what I earn I would send in 100% to the community (police, fireman, etc). As it would be really boring not to do anything at all.
But would this work? If yes, why are we not in such place already?
All the people would have to limit their needs, eg: one car in family, and not one car per member, plus weekend ferrari. Because if all barbers would have that, it could not work again Smiley
Only if all people would be wise, and not spending or wanting too much, perhaps it could work in some way.
But if all of them would want to buy a gold ring(s), we have finite gold in here and there.
Same as with mansion. Sure, not all of them would like it or buy it.
But just see how the living cost (own place in downtown) going to the moon.
It's more and more expensive..But sure, many people want to get out of the city and go to villages (for example I am working on this)

Anyway, this system is funny, because you work in drug store, to earn cash, and you spend that cash for drugs. (you work for bosses, for money you give out to those bosses), so it's interesting. Without bosses we could have it all for free basically. It's like, you go to work, accumulate cash, and buy a wooden fancy bed. Instead buying wood and making that bed on your own, no need to pay cash for anyone's time.
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June 06, 2017, 12:07:12 AM
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it doesn't make a sense Cheesy
even a robot will service what we need of course there a man who makes that robot, and you will but the  robot cause u can't make by your self,
then another point there will be many war because of  greedy and all transaction stop.
then the point is impossible Cheesy

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June 06, 2017, 12:12:59 AM
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Just imagine. If ALL OF US would be rich, that means we would live our lives out from dividends, or any passive income of at least $1k a month. Then it would be jawesome, right ? Well, but then I do have a question.
WHO on this Earth would bake the bread for ALL OF US ?
Robots, you might say?
OK, nice idea.
But then, WHO on Earth would maintenance these robots ?
Another robots ?
I don't think so.
Even if so, even if there would be a Skynet of robots, who would not just bake the bread, but also harvest the grains, transport it, deliver to our doors. What then ?
We could eat for free, as much as you want?
Cool, but what about overweight then.
Doctor? But hey wait, NO ONE on this Earth work, so we have no doctors.
OK, we have Doctor Robots.
Who would teach our kids? Robots! Who would change the diapres? Robot!
Even if humans would master all this, we would need to have all the knowledge to teach our robots to work for us. To be slaves for us. (no minds, just pure robotic hands/arms and so on, Tesla's and autopilots)
But even then, there is one huge problem.
I do not want to touch any country, or race, or group of people, but imagine, if you put infinite amount of resources to any kind of animal (including humans), they would reproduce themselves to infinite. Because they simply can. Because parents do not need to parent their kids anymore, because we have robots! So we would need a limit of reproducing, no right to reproduce as much as you can handle (infinite resources), because we would simple have like 50-100billion people on this planet, and there would be no robots who could grow so much grains to bake bread. (perhaps hyper dense pills could be the away).
So, back to the original question, why do people believe, they all can be rich ?
It was, is, and will be, ALWAYS about that who is going to earn more, not enough, but more than the others.
Why?
If there is only one mansion on the Bahamas, which is large enough, sunny enough, sexy enough, there is no freaking way, ALL OF US could buy it. Just one. 1. One. And if only 10 buyers come with their million, to who would seller sell this mansion to? First ? But second also have million and ALL OF US want to be rich (own that one mansion). So second would have to offer 2 million, right?
Wrong.
No one would want to sell such mansion in the first place, as he is already rich. We all are.
Posts like this make my brain hurt because they just seem to stray everywhere.
The idea of capitalism is to not be a worker, but an owner, and there are always people being born who become workers, who later become owners as their parents give them inheritances of businesses or they go to make their own. They are replaced and so on and so forth.
UBI is a retarded idea from the get-go, but no-one is going to be rich just because they get $12k/year. Falling for the UBI meme is a failure to understand economics, just like communism. You may as well simply implement ration cards, since it achieves the same results, just with less illusion of freedom.
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June 06, 2017, 12:21:07 AM
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OP, your point might be right, but you have to remember that there are many people who don't like money, unless it fulfills a need/purpose. Many scientists, for example, would die for a successful experiment achieving something new for the world rather than having a million U.S. Dollars.

And also if your point happened, there will be scientists who will be fascinated (if not mad) about their robots that they won't let them breakdown.
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June 06, 2017, 12:34:22 AM
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You're the one who takes the hope of the poor.... Cry

Why did you have to tell the truth? You should let people dream

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June 06, 2017, 12:45:47 AM
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Every people only wants in thier life is to be rich someday. Even i ,im tired being in a low class of living, because of what life i have to today,i need to save in order to live, if im only a rich man im not thinking  about financial problem anymore.

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June 06, 2017, 12:49:45 AM
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Op your point is right, And that is the main reason why not all of us can be rich because if we are all rich, who will sell a house to us and our basic needs? Who would do the things that are needed to be done by humans? Also, taking care of a child would be no robot's task because it needs to be done by another human, not a robot. If all is rich, no one would bother do such labors that are needed by all of mankind to survive so if all became rich, there would be chaos and there will be no order afterwards.

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June 06, 2017, 01:09:40 AM
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first robots that can replace human in all our activities are yet to be build. and rich people who worked hard to get rich do not just lie down all day waiting to be served. those types of people are found in the streets penniless because they do not work.

and if ever we found ourselves with infinite source of money from passive income, people still have hobbies they like to do. like some rich, old retired man retreating to farms because they love planting and taking care of animals. a truly rich person is the one who is satisfied with what he have. you can buy the whole world and still feel empty inside.















 

 

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first robots that can replace human in all our activities are yet to be build. and rich people who worked hard to get rich do not just lie down all day waiting to be served. those types of people are found in the streets penniless because they do not work.

and if ever we found ourselves with infinite source of money from passive income, people still have hobbies they like to do. like some rich, old retired man retreating to farms because they love planting and taking care of animals. a truly rich person is the one who is satisfied with what he have. you can buy the whole world and still feel empty inside.



Probably we are even far from the era of having robots as workers. We are in an era where ww3 could happen. Our planet is still at risk from terrorist and we can't avoid that fact. Btc might be famous but there are a lot of countries who are still trying to adopt to modern society and have yet to manage it's industrial needs. If we need to get rich we must 1st have to at least discipline ourselves and won't be a liability to the community.

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June 06, 2017, 02:26:40 AM
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first robots that can replace human in all our activities are yet to be build. and rich people who worked hard to get rich do not just lie down all day waiting to be served. those types of people are found in the streets penniless because they do not work.

and if ever we found ourselves with infinite source of money from passive income, people still have hobbies they like to do. like some rich, old retired man retreating to farms because they love planting and taking care of animals. a truly rich person is the one who is satisfied with what he have. you can buy the whole world and still feel empty inside.



Probably we are even far from the era of having robots as workers. We are in an era where ww3 could happen. Our planet is still at risk from terrorist and we can't avoid that fact. Btc might be famous but there are a lot of countries who are still trying to adopt to modern society and have yet to manage it's industrial needs. If we need to get rich we must 1st have to at least discipline ourselves and won't be a liability to the community.

We don't need discipline, we need jobs for the unemployed, how can we be rich if we don't have a job. Mostly, they are just relying on the volatility of bitcoin, the way bitcoin changes it's price quickly in munites. But not all of the poor can earn bitcoin, also buying it, that is why, we need to make these unemployed employed. Even if a man become rich, it will not change the fact that the place where he lived in is a poor country.

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June 06, 2017, 02:53:53 AM
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Not entirely true mate, we're just a fraction of a tiny percentage of the whole population and yes we want to be rich and have a taste of whatever

The world masters and riches tasting, I know even if all of us few millions stop working and just using and spending there are many people willing

To work for us, if you'd like you could join us as well by just investing more than what you can afford to lose because otherwise you'll get no where.
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Everybody really wanted to be rich but it's so hard if we just ignore opportunities specially in bitcoin which income is coming from. We should work hard to achieve your goals and establish a mindset for your dreams. I think all of us have that kind of goals on our daily living, to achieve our financials and struggle for life in order to be rich soon.


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June 06, 2017, 04:21:18 AM
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Everybody really wanted to be rich but it's so hard if we just ignore opportunities specially in bitcoin which income is coming from. We should work hard to achieve your goals and establish a mindset for your dreams. I think all of us have that kind of goals on our daily living, to achieve our financials and struggle for life in order to be rich soon.

true, No one can quickly get rich without hard work and high knowledge, if we can become rich without hard work and intelligence, of course we will all be able to get rich if it can be done

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June 06, 2017, 05:09:58 AM
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Just imagine. If ALL OF US would be rich, that means we would live our lives out from dividends, or any passive income of at least $1k a month. Then it would be jawesome, right ? Well, but then I do have a question.
WHO on this Earth would bake the bread for ALL OF US ?
Robots, you might say?
OK, nice idea.
But then, WHO on Earth would maintenance these robots ?
Another robots ?
I don't think so.
Even if so, even if there would be a Skynet of robots, who would not just bake the bread, but also harvest the grains, transport it, deliver to our doors. What then ?
We could eat for free, as much as you want?
Cool, but what about overweight then.
Doctor? But hey wait, NO ONE on this Earth work, so we have no doctors.
OK, we have Doctor Robots.
Who would teach our kids? Robots! Who would change the diapres? Robot!
Even if humans would master all this, we would need to have all the knowledge to teach our robots to work for us. To be slaves for us. (no minds, just pure robotic hands/arms and so on, Tesla's and autopilots)
But even then, there is one huge problem.
I do not want to touch any country, or race, or group of people, but imagine, if you put infinite amount of resources to any kind of animal (including humans), they would reproduce themselves to infinite. Because they simply can. Because parents do not need to parent their kids anymore, because we have robots! So we would need a limit of reproducing, no right to reproduce as much as you can handle (infinite resources), because we would simple have like 50-100billion people on this planet, and there would be no robots who could grow so much grains to bake bread. (perhaps hyper dense pills could be the away).
So, back to the original question, why do people believe, they all can be rich ?
It was, is, and will be, ALWAYS about that who is going to earn more, not enough, but more than the others.
Why?
If there is only one mansion on the Bahamas, which is large enough, sunny enough, sexy enough, there is no freaking way, ALL OF US could buy it. Just one. 1. One. And if only 10 buyers come with their million, to who would seller sell this mansion to? First ? But second also have million and ALL OF US want to be rich (own that one mansion). So second would have to offer 2 million, right?
Wrong.
No one would want to sell such mansion in the first place, as he is already rich. We all are.
Prctically,its highly impossible for every one to get rich.There would remain differences in financial situation of people.World is running continuously because of such differences.
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The reality of life is that we can't all be rich. However we want to have an equal distribution of wealth, there's just so much divisiveness wherever we go. Although there's plenty of wealth to be shared, but if you are among the top 100 richest persons in the world, are you willing to distribute 95% of your assets to people whom you are not sure can make those assets grow? Life continues to be unfair because only a few get to own most of the world's wealth while the rest continue to live lives full of struggles.


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My Philosophy about life is that its a crime to be poor and its a decision to be rich. Whether others wanted to be or not, what I know is about myself and that is my motive. If you generalise that everybody wants to be rich, then you will be wrong in the sense that while every one wishes to be rich, not everyone wants to be rich as they just say it by mere wishful thinking and not even working towards it because how do one explain someone who does not have the basic qualification yet wants to be the president of his country in modern day democracy, it won't work.
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Everyone can make a fortune, who will set this goal. And that person who thinks that wealth is evil, he will never get rich. He will not allow himself to do this. I believe that there will never be a situation where everyone is rich. And there will always be people who are willing to work even free of charge

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