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May 04, 2013, 02:53:52 PM
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ok fellas. we are BACK and taking order's! each PREVIOUS BUYER can place an order for USB miners at .175 per unit. the .075 is for my fee and shipping - which will be fedex ground.

Ordering is open until august 9, 6 pm mountain time (that's friday, about 1:20 from current forum time) payment is due ASAP so i can place the order and get the shipment from friedcat on it's way as of the 10th.

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May 04, 2013, 03:02:25 PM
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At BTC2 - no freaking way.

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May 04, 2013, 03:04:58 PM
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At BTC2 - no freaking way.


gotta agree, that price is painful. even if i had to wait months for a BFL at 5 ghash, that still strikes me as a better plan. (not that i want to buy from bfl OR have that much btc lying about anyway...)

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May 04, 2013, 03:17:43 PM
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At BTC2 - no freaking way.


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The quantity of each order should be more than 300 devices.
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May 04, 2013, 03:22:26 PM
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the real question is : "how many people are interested in the product ?" and "where are they located ?"

EDIT I'm in France and i would be in for 3 Block Erupter USB 297 to go :>

at current difficulty, I calculated a ROI of 133 days ... (btc went down a little, but i do not really expect diff to explode, BFL is not going to deliver "en masse".)

cheaper than FPGA but still not as good UNAVAILABLE asic !

the price per MH is like the 66 btc/Asicminer blade ... :/
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May 04, 2013, 03:25:12 PM
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At BTC2 - no freaking way.


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The quantity of each order should be more than 300 devices.
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yea... wait, are you implying they mean 300 for 1.99 btc? there's no way in hell. admittedly, the posting doesn't clarify this. but realistically, that'd be a unit price of ~.006 btc, which is roughly 70 cents, USD. not possible.

now, assuming i'm wrong on what you mean - minimum order of 300 x 1.99 btc = 597 btc exactly. ...wow. that's insane, when you realize avalon sells 10,000 chips (33times more chips, but bare chips) for 780 btc.

right. this price is fubar'd.

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May 04, 2013, 03:25:59 PM
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the real question is : "how many people are interested in the product ?" and "where are they located ?"

I'm in France and i would be in for 3 Block Erupter USB 297 to go :>

at current difficulty, I calculated a ROI of 133 days ... (btc went down a little, but i not really expect diff to explode, BFL is not going to deliver "en masse".

cheaper than FPGA but still not as good UNAVAILABLE asic !

even if we disregard BFL - we know avalon is selling chips, and has sold in the realm of 500k of them, to be shipped in june, if i recall. that ain't no pile of peanuts.

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May 04, 2013, 03:27:15 PM
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the real question is : "how many people are interested in the product ?" and "where are they located ?"

I'm in France and i would be in for 3 Block Erupter USB 297 to go :>

at current difficulty, I calculated a ROI of 133 days ... (btc went down a little, but i not really expect diff to explode, BFL is not going to deliver "en masse".

cheaper than FPGA but still not as good UNAVAILABLE asic !

even if we disregard BFL - we know avalon is selling chips, and has sold in the realm of 500k of them, to be shipped in june, if i recall. that ain't no pile of peanuts.

Avalon is 2-3 weeks late on batch 2. How long will be the delay for batch 3? And then for chips?
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even if we disregard BFL - we know avalon is selling chips, and has sold in the realm of 500k of them, to be shipped in june, if i recall. that ain't no pile of peanuts.

true ... i forgot about that.
But you believe it's gonna be so easy for everyone to get their chips on PCB and running ?
If you could just put the asic on a test board, cut some wire and put some reistance and make it run i would say yes ... but it is not the case.

I do not find anyone having a working PCB that he offer to sell IN QUANTITY.
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May 04, 2013, 03:31:18 PM
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the real question is : "how many people are interested in the product ?" and "where are they located ?"

I'm in France and i would be in for 3 Block Erupter USB 297 to go :>

at current difficulty, I calculated a ROI of 133 days ... (btc went down a little, but i not really expect diff to explode, BFL is not going to deliver "en masse".

cheaper than FPGA but still not as good UNAVAILABLE asic !

even if we disregard BFL - we know avalon is selling chips, and has sold in the realm of 500k of them, to be shipped in june, if i recall. that ain't no pile of peanuts.

Avalon is 2-3 weeks late on batch 2. How long will be the delay for batch 3? And then for chips?

very valid point. i still disagree that 1.99 btc is a reasonable price point, however. ...then again, i AM willing to pay it...

also, if by chance the group buy goes anywhere with my in charge, i'm in the USA, just FYI.

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even if we disregard BFL - we know avalon is selling chips, and has sold in the realm of 500k of them, to be shipped in june, if i recall. that ain't no pile of peanuts.

true ... i forgot about that.
But you believe it's gonna be so easy for everyone to get their chips on PCB and running ?
If you could just put the asic on a test board, cut some wire and put some reistance and make it run i would say yes ... but it is not the case.

I do not find anyone having a working PCB that he offer to sell IN QUANTITY.

true. burnin's assembly service/pcb making is seemingly very popular, but i have no idea how many he'll be able to make and ship at what kind of rate.

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May 04, 2013, 03:41:26 PM
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it's portable,
it's cute,
sip on electricity,
and you can have it now,

while Avalon batch 2 will take months to finish,

also better customer support, less hassle than Avalon
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May 04, 2013, 03:44:05 PM
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i guess group buys should be organised by location.
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May 04, 2013, 03:46:56 PM
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i guess group buys should be organised by location.

+1 --> (german speaking) Europe https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=195037.0

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May 04, 2013, 03:49:16 PM
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i guess group buys should be organised by location.

I guess too many groupbuys will be a problem because of the spread of payments that could lead to no one reach the price for 300 units. I think it there are 3 GB, one in America, one Asia and one Europe could work out probably.

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May 04, 2013, 03:57:16 PM
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i guess group buys should be organised by location.

+1 --> (german speaking) Europe https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=195037.0

german do not like to speak english ? 68/300 already... nice.
i just checked 300 is the minimum ... not a fixed limit. so i might join.
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May 04, 2013, 03:57:36 PM
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At BTC2 - no freaking way.


...
The quantity of each order should be more than 300 devices.
...

yea... wait, are you implying they mean 300 for 1.99 btc? there's no way in hell. admittedly, the posting doesn't clarify this. but realistically, that'd be a unit price of ~.006 btc, which is roughly 70 cents, USD. not possible.

now, assuming i'm wrong on what you mean - minimum order of 300 x 1.99 btc = 597 btc exactly. ...wow. that's insane, when you realize avalon sells 10,000 chips (33times more chips, but bare chips) for 780 btc.

right. this price is fubar'd.

Yes i also understood it like this: 300 x 1.99 btc = 597 btc


I think that it's a bit overpriced for the hash/s. Especially if you consider the fact that difficulty will rise significantly in the following months.
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May 04, 2013, 03:57:56 PM
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agreed. location for group buys matters, obviously. i'm more then happy to organize the one in the US, but that's up to you guys if ya trust me. unfortunately i can't front the purchase. maybe someone else in the US wants to take the lead?

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May 04, 2013, 04:18:39 PM
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german do not like to speak english ? 68/300 already... nice.
i just checked 300 is the minimum ... not a fixed limit. so i might join.

English is not the problem.
But insured shipping from Germany is expensive

EDIT:
Just checked. Within Europe, it is not as expensive as I thought
~ 11 EUR, insured up to 500EUR and with tracking. (DHL)


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Just post the desired number here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=195037.0

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May 04, 2013, 04:38:49 PM
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EDIT:
Just checked. Within Europe, it is not as expensive as I thought
~ 11 EUR, insured up to 500EUR and with tracking. (DHL)



Would that include also the countries outside EU but in Europe?
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