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May 30, 2013, 05:26:05 PM
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With current network hash rate, would that not being closer to 400,000 to 1 ?

Hashrate: 336
Average generation time for a block (solo): 4 years, 338 days = 1798 days

1798 / 30 = 59.93

Right ?

Every day independent trial.  Each block independent trial.  Mining for 30 days just 30 iterations of one block in 1798 days or 1 chance to find block in every 431,520 next blocks over and over again. Not additive.  No more chance to find block after 1 year of mining as when starting - being actually much less because of weekly difficulty increases.  

Not as likely as you might be thinking - could easily mine for 25 years and not be finding block. Finding block solo at that rate about 3.5 sigma event.   Difference between 3.5 and 4 sigma events is being very small difference in probability-wise but large time-wise  - from once every six years to possibly twice in a lifetime and not difficult to stretch out to sigma 4.5 making once every 4 centuries.   Can only say results not being average after 1.4 million years of testing - should find block within 6 sigma - if not, average calculation probably wrong.

In meantime straight PPS should paying in your pocket about 18 BTC over same period you mentioning.
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May 30, 2013, 07:18:06 PM
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Am be putting in pre-order for 5.  If it would be helping, I could be preordering another 10.  Could also be picking up any units from first batch that pre-order person not taking.

All units from the first batch are already paid. You can try to contact the buyers to know if they are interested to sell their units.

If you are ready to pay for 15 units, place the pre-order. There is not a maximum limit of units to order the second batch.

My brother is saying that you are emailing asking for more in shipping charges than the cost of the goods?  Over $1200.00 US for shipping 10 ounces of merchandise?  Is this email being correct Huh
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May 30, 2013, 07:19:55 PM
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Am be putting in pre-order for 5.  If it would be helping, I could be preordering another 10.  Could also be picking up any units from first batch that pre-order person not taking.

All units from the first batch are already paid. You can try to contact the buyers to know if they are interested to sell their units.

If you are ready to pay for 15 units, place the pre-order. There is not a maximum limit of units to order the second batch.

My brother is saying that you are asking for more in shipping charges than the cost of the goods?  Over $1200.00 US for shipping 20 ounces of merchandise?  Is this being correct Huh

I don't know about total, but he has used uk Royal Mail postal calculator to correctly calculate postage as far as I am concerned!

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May 30, 2013, 07:34:00 PM
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5 Units for 10.5 BTC and then additional 10 BTC shipping ?  Nearly $280 USD shipping for each device?  

UK post calculator says 49.99 GBP = 0.58 BTC for one pound package delivered next day from UK to USA.  
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May 30, 2013, 07:41:38 PM
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5 Units for 10.5 BTC and then additional 10 BTC shipping ?  Nearly $280 USD shipping for each device?  

UK post calculator says 49.99 GBP = 0.58 BTC for one pound package delivered next day from UK to USA.  

I request payment for people which increased their units in their respective pre-orders. Perhaps I made a mistake. What is your brother email?
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May 30, 2013, 08:05:41 PM
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5 Units for 10.5 BTC and then additional 10 BTC shipping ?  Nearly $280 USD shipping for each device?  

UK post calculator says 49.99 GBP = 0.58 BTC for one pound package delivered next day from UK to USA.  

I request payment for people which increased their units in their respective pre-orders. Perhaps I made a mistake. What is your brother email?

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Now... Well... Auburn, Russian and with Irish temper! What a marvelous combination. I would fall in love with you at first sight (assuming you are she, of course).

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Ok, you placed a pre-order for 10 units after another pre-order of 5 units. What is the correct pre-order? Your brother thinks you placed just 5.
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May 30, 2013, 09:02:23 PM
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Ack.  Am making confusion. 

Am placing order for 5, then placing another order for 10.  Brother was thinking 21 BTC for order of 5. 

Can you quoting him 15 and fix my confusing? 

Hair is red.  Thank you for every thing!
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May 30, 2013, 10:23:05 PM
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Any chance of introducing paypal payment option for those who have started mining?

I would recommend those who have started mining not to order this expensive toy.
This expensive toy is still cheaper than FPGA mining.

But still more expensive than just keeping/buying bitcoins.
I meant this is ideal for those who want to invest in hardware as a liquid asset instead of buying bitcoins.

I agree the fact that 330MH/s is not a lot of hashing power in hindsight and at the increased difficulty and its continuous rise (two times in a month), you might look at earnings of 0.008 for next month, 0.006..., earning per day and it won't be profitable. It has arrived late in the mining scenario but may give entry level miners a glimpse of what mining bitcoins is about thus making it more accessible to people with lower incomes thus having a far greater distributed hashing power, than relying on denser ASIC miners (e.g AVALON 60GH/s miner or the fabled "box with fans" that was downgraded from 1,500GH/s to 500GH/s).

Nevertheless, to be profitable, it should be at a much lower price if people want to profit in the long term.


Can someone PM me and tell me just how you go about mining solo? Thanks
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May 30, 2013, 10:59:28 PM
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The first batch is almost delivered!

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May 30, 2013, 11:03:37 PM
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Can someone PM me and tell me just how you go about mining solo? Thanks
I'd be interested to know this too.  Let's say I have <5 of these things, I assume it's better to be in a pool, no?
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May 30, 2013, 11:06:11 PM
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Can someone PM me and tell me just how you go about mining solo? Thanks
I'd be interested to know this too.  Let's say I have <5 of these things, I assume it's better to be in a pool, no?

Yes, it is better to be in a pool.

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May 30, 2013, 11:35:18 PM
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The first batch is almost delivered!

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Awesome!
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May 30, 2013, 11:53:26 PM
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Can someone PM me and tell me just how you go about mining solo? Thanks
I'd be interested to know this too.  Let's say I have <5 of these things, I assume it's better to be in a pool, no?

Yes, it is better to be in a pool.

Always is better to be in a pool. Unless you have real mining power like 1% total hashrate minimum and you want to gamble.
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May 31, 2013, 07:03:03 AM
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Can someone PM me and tell me just how you go about mining solo? Thanks
I'd be interested to know this too.  Let's say I have <5 of these things, I assume it's better to be in a pool, no?

Mining solo should be quite easy even though I never tried it as I don't have enough hashing power.
What you should do is:
- add 2 lines with "rpcuser=myuser" and "rpcpassword=mypassword" entries to bitcoin.conf
- keep bitcoind always running as normal
- run your mining software (like cgminer or bfgminer) and specify the username and password same as the ones in bitcoin.conf, and the ip address of the computer running bitcoind as the host (127.0.0.1 if it's the same). The port should be 8332.

example:
cgminer -u username -p mypassword -o http://127.0.0.1:8332

That should be it. However do some research and ask somebody with experience to be sure I didn't miss anything.
According to my calculations with current difficulty you have 1 chance in 60 to mine a 25 btc block in the first month.
Having more than 1 stick will multiply your chances.
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May 31, 2013, 08:09:47 AM
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The time taken to find 1 block would be 4 years 338 days for 1 stick according to http://www.bitcoinx.com/profit/, or am I missing something?
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May 31, 2013, 08:14:06 AM
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Can someone PM me and tell me just how you go about mining solo? Thanks
I'd be interested to know this too.  Let's say I have <5 of these things, I assume it's better to be in a pool, no?

Mining solo should be quite easy even though I never tried it as I don't have enough hashing power.
What you should do is:
- add 2 lines with "rpcuser=myuser" and "rpcpassword=mypassword" entries to bitcoin.conf
- keep bitcoind always running as normal
- run your mining software (like cgminer or bfgminer) and specify the username and password same as the ones in bitcoin.conf, and the ip address of the computer running bitcoind as the host (127.0.0.1 if it's the same). The port should be 8332.

example:
cgminer -u username -p mypassword -o http://127.0.0.1:8332

That should be it. However do some research and ask somebody with experience to be sure I didn't miss anything.
According to my calculations with current difficulty you have 1 chance in 60 to mine a 25 btc block in the first month.
Having more than 1 stick will multiply your chances.

Thank you, Its something I just wanted to try and may do so for a few days but will most likely go back to my pool.
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May 31, 2013, 09:54:04 AM
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any news on the second batch?

This account was hacked & possibly sold during the period of August 1st and October 24th 2017.
Anything done or said in this period wasnt me.
Many thanks to Cyrus for his help restoring access to my account.
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May 31, 2013, 04:16:18 PM
Last edit: May 31, 2013, 04:49:22 PM by Humax
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any news on the second batch?

I assume most people who really want these have already ordered. Others are not willing to pay this much. It is expensive!

More important:
Did you got the package already A+C?

I think A+C is already (un)packing or busy playing with his stick(s)!  Grin
...this sounds a bit weird.... Roll Eyes

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May 31, 2013, 06:25:21 PM
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any news on the second batch?

I assume most people who really want these have already ordered. Others are not willing to pay this much. It is expensive!

More important:
Did you got the package already A+C?

I think A+C is already (un)packing or busy playing with his stick(s)!  Grin
...this sounds a bit weird.... Roll Eyes

I haven't seen any reports of a brownout on the news...
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May 31, 2013, 09:25:07 PM
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any news on the second batch?

I will order this weekend and ask Friedcat to dispatch Monday!

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