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December 02, 2011, 03:26:30 AM
Last edit: December 02, 2011, 05:31:34 PM by julz
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Matthew DeBord follows up after some bitcoin community comments on his recent Bitcoin post...

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Commenting on the commenters: Bitcoin

Matthew DeBord
2011-12-02

http://www.scpr.org/blogs/economy/2011/12/01/3923/commenting-commenters-bitcoin/

What I've learned from writing about Bitcoin is that...Bitcoin has some passionate advocates! It's been debunked in the popular media. But clearly, there's a thriving subculture of Bitcoin enthusiasts. They've got my respect, even if they haven't convinced me that Bitcoin — or another type of currency not backed by a central government — will ever work


Discussion thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=53566.0

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December 02, 2011, 11:04:07 AM
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Matthew DeBord follows up after some bitcoin community comments on his recent Bitcoin post...

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Commenting on the commenters: Bitcoin

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2011-12-02

http://www.scpr.org/blogs/economy/2011/12/01/3923/commenting-commenters-bitcoin/

What I've learned from writing about Bitcoin is that...Bitcoin has some passionate advocates! It's been debunked in the popular media. But clearly, there's a thriving subculture of Bitcoin enthusiasts. They've got my respect, even if they haven't convinced me that Bitcoin — or another type of currency not backed by a central government — will ever work


I just had to comment on "commenting on the commenters".

Also, julz: thanks so much for posting all this stuff here. This is one of my favorite morning-coffe-threads.

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December 02, 2011, 12:26:17 PM
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Matthew DeBord follows up after some bitcoin community comments on his recent Bitcoin post...

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I just had to comment on "commenting on the commenters".

Also, julz: thanks so much for posting all this stuff here. This is one of my favorite morning-coffe-threads.

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December 02, 2011, 06:42:02 PM
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Matthew DeBord follows up after some bitcoin community comments on his recent Bitcoin post...

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Commenting on the commenters: Bitcoin

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2011-12-02

http://www.scpr.org/blogs/economy/2011/12/01/3923/commenting-commenters-bitcoin/

What I've learned from writing about Bitcoin is that...Bitcoin has some passionate advocates! It's been debunked in the popular media. But clearly, there's a thriving subculture of Bitcoin enthusiasts. They've got my respect, even if they haven't convinced me that Bitcoin — or another type of currency not backed by a central government — will ever work


I just had to comment on "commenting on the commenters".

Also, julz: thanks so much for posting all this stuff here. This is one of my favorite morning-coffe-threads.
I let him know how I felt about him too.  +1 on the morning-daily-check thread.

"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."

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December 02, 2011, 08:21:15 PM
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Not a mainstream press hit or anything.. but the idea of the site "A scientific approach to earning more money" is interesting.

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Making Money With Bitcoins – An Interview With Philip Daniel

2011-12-01

http://www.experimentincome.com/moneybitcoins/

Hypothesis
It's possible to make money bitcoin mining, but it's getting increasingly difficult

...

Conclusion
Right Now, Bitcoin Mining is an unprofitable enterprise. The future of Bitcoin is uncertain.


About Experiment Income
"Our mission is to find out what can earn you more money and what can’t."


Philip Daniel appears to be 'a senior economics major at Cal Poly in San Luis Obispo' who is into bitcoin.

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December 03, 2011, 04:05:44 AM
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I wouldn't normally report on advertisements - but Roger Ver of Memory Dealers does them in a way that promotes Bitcoin itself rather than directly promoting his company.
Here's his latest.

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Bitcoin

MemoryDealers - Roger Ver
2011-12-02


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pV9ptoCMyc&feature=g-u

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December 03, 2011, 01:14:41 PM
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I wouldn't normally report on advertisements - but Roger Ver of Memory Dealers does them in a way that promotes Bitcoin itself rather than directly promoting his company.
Here's his latest.

wow! so much revolutionary power! Thanks, Roger!

I think it's legitimate to report ads here if they are for bitcoin and only slightly for some bitcoin business (which is not even the case here)

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December 04, 2011, 09:01:07 PM
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I'm not sure this can be considered "press", but I think it's notable:

http://ia700801.us.archive.org/5/items/MaxKeiserRadio-TheTruthAboutMarkets-03December2011/TaM-031211.mp3 (start listen at 31:30 for bitcoin)

Stacy Herbert, Max Keiser and Richard Bluestein talk in Paris, partly about Bitcoin and the Conference.

Stacy seems genuinly impressed by having actually used bitcoin.

Here's a quote:

Quote from: stacy herbert
Now, that's the thing that I really learned at the Bitcoin Conference. Now, I guess I got a little bit confused by a lot of the trolls and propaganda out there who don't understand, because, a lot of shreekers, who actually haven't used bitcoin. Now I assumed, like they, at a certain point, you know, people are like: 'it's a ponzy scheme!'. But what it is: it's a unit of transaction. If you've actually ever used it, you can see the simplicity of using it just to friggin' purchase something, not to speculate and hope to flip it to somebody at a greater price. You just convert your currency that day to whatever... there's some place that'll convert it to gold for you, you can convert it to euros, swiss franks, dollars, whatever you want.

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December 05, 2011, 12:29:04 AM
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Stacy seems genuinly impressed by having actually used bitcoin.
Max is too, here's his quote:

Quote from: Max Keiser
I think of it like Western Union. You go to Western Union and you send money. You go to Bitcoin and you can send money. Now, you can also buy or sell stock in Western Union and speculate on what direction the stock price might go, but that doesn't mean you can't use it as a service to send money unless you buy or sell stock. That's not true. Same thing with Bitcoin. Yes, you can buy and sell Bitcoins if you want to, but that's not the primary purpose of Bitcoin. The primary purpose is to send money for virtually free on the web.
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December 07, 2011, 12:01:12 AM
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Bitcoin for beginners, Part 2: Bitcoin as a technology and network

Dirk Merkel
2011-12-06


http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-12-2011/111206-bitcoin-for-beginners-part-2.html

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December 07, 2011, 02:05:37 AM
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Bitcoin for beginners, Part 2: Bitcoin as a technology and network

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2011-12-06


http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-12-2011/111206-bitcoin-for-beginners-part-2.html

Wow, wrong right from the start...

"Bitcoin uses public-key cryptography for signing transactions. In the Bitcoin marketplace, coins are transferred between users via an exchange of keys."

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And again right after that...

The public key serves as an address to which Bitcoins can be sent,"

(the address contains a hash of the public key, and a checksum of that hash, but not the public key itself, which is not disclosed until funds are sent away from that address.  I'm sure someone will correct me if I wrong here.)

"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."

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December 07, 2011, 05:51:00 AM
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Of course it is supposed to be a technical journal for programmers, but perhaps you are too critical, considering that same paragraph is filled with other loose analogies such as ATM PINs?:

...are transfered between users via exchange of keys
...are transfered between users after the exchange of keys
...are transfered between users after the sender receives the recipient's key
...are transfered between users after the sender receives the hash value of the recipient's key

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December 07, 2011, 07:49:30 AM
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Of course it is supposed to be a technical journal for programmers, but perhaps you are too critical, considering that same paragraph is filled with other loose analogies such as ATM PINs?:

...are transfered between users via exchange of keys
...are transfered between users after the exchange of keys
...are transfered between users after the sender receives the recipient's key
...are transfered between users after the sender receives the hash value of the recipient's key

No, because the loose analogies are presented as such.

"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."

- Carroll Quigley, CFR member, mentor to Bill Clinton, from 'Tragedy And Hope'
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December 07, 2011, 10:54:14 AM
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And again right after that...

The public key serves as an address to which Bitcoins can be sent,"

(the address contains a hash of the public key, and a checksum of that hash, but not the public key itself, which is not disclosed until funds are sent away from that address. I'm sure someone will correct me if I wrong here.)

Well, the public key is used to make the hash, which is encoded in Base58 to make the address, so in a sense the public key serves as an address.  When the guy says "the public key serves as an address", it does not necessarly mean litterraly.

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December 07, 2011, 11:05:12 AM
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Bitcoin was mentioned briefly twice in the paper edition of The Times today (7 December). The mentions were on pages 14 and 15 of the Raconteur supplement on the future of mobile payments.

The Raconteur supplements lean towards advertorial, and are only included with English editions of The Times. The supplement will soon be archived online here:

Raconteur Archive
http://www.raconteurmedia.co.uk/ARCHIVE.htm

It's not much of a mention, and there is a typo (the highest Bitcoin exchange rate was given as $432 instead of $32), but it's the first time I've seen Bitcoin mentioned in the paper edition of a major daily newspaper.
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December 07, 2011, 06:39:31 PM
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And again right after that...

The public key serves as an address to which Bitcoins can be sent,"

(the address contains a hash of the public key, and a checksum of that hash, but not the public key itself, which is not disclosed until funds are sent away from that address.  I'm sure someone will correct me if I wrong here.)

You have it right but if ever I was interviewed by a member of the media and they said that, I wouldn't correct them.

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December 07, 2011, 06:54:49 PM
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Bitcoin mentioned as a PayPal alternative at the bottom of this Forbes article as PayPal back-pedals on freezing Regretsy.

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December 08, 2011, 01:08:28 AM
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Chinese edition of "The rise and fall of BitCoin", added a tail "Been accused as A Ponzi scheme"
http://tech.sina.com.cn/i/2011-12-05/19476429922.shtml

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December 08, 2011, 11:36:20 PM
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small mention of bitcoin,
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Emergent online currencies such as Bitcoin are causing a big splash among tech-geeks and hackers worldwide, …

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December 09, 2011, 02:36:59 AM
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This is a bit of a preliminary 'hit' - This academic legal paper is apparently being submitted to 'Several Tech. and Economic Law journals',
so please report if/when you see it cited or in other contexts.

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Bitcoin: Tempering the Digital Ring of Gyges or Implausible Pecuniary Privacy

Matthew Elias
2011-10-03    (revised/released 2011-12-07)

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1937769

Bitcoin is a product of the internet, and therefore bears an intimate relationship to level of
anonymity one is able to obtain therein. Functionally ineffective regulation directed at the
internet and its subsidiary technologies may continue into the foreseeable future. As it relates to
Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies generally, regulation should strive mediate the ongoing melding of
the internet and money as mediums of communication
...

discussion thread here:
'[Available for Download] Academic legal paper re: Bitcoin & Anonymity'
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=40783.0

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