greenteanosugar
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June 25, 2014, 03:17:25 PM |
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IMO, it's Monero guys who are pumpers and FUDsters. Monero's guys understand that they would never be as good as BCN for a simple reason - Monero is only a fork. Only BCN devs have enough skills and knowledge about cryptonote tech to make improvements. So, Monero's guys can only copy BCN devs ideas and gossip about ''premining''
I really don't want to blame somebody, but your point of view can be right. Why not? |
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DNScode
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June 25, 2014, 03:33:17 PM |
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We've played this game already, fuck face.
Be polite, kid. I was polite with you so it would be nice if you won't act like a stupid child. Because i don't want waste my time continuing my conversation with a mad kid. |
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AtomicDoge
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June 25, 2014, 04:02:02 PM |
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We've played this game already, fuck face.
The Bytecoin website DID NOT FUCKING EXIST until February:
Wow, you're so mad. Let's at least try to be polite with each other. The thing is, none of your posts make me want to rethink-my-strategy. It makes me think that just some rude fat troll came here to talk shit about Bytecoin. |
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werrindor
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June 25, 2014, 04:23:41 PM |
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Its nice finally seeing Bytecoin on coinmarket. I think Bytecoin and its devs deserve it. But these two "stars of shame" is something they dont deserve. Please, fix it.
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GreedyBoy
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June 25, 2014, 04:24:20 PM |
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In every launch of any coin, I am sure, you'll find a dev team behind a coin with a significant amount of coins
BTW, if we knew about XMR launch we didn't know for a while about an optimizer they created to mine lots of coins for themselves . But there's no stars to mark there was instamine.
+1 to remove the premine designation
From my point of view, what does stand behind ''premine'' everyone understands in their own way. There is only general features to refer to this definition. I can refer even Bitcoin to this definition as I was out of the game till recently. Unless there's no evidence to tell it's 100% ''premine'' I advise to remove designation , otherwise, there should be lots of coins to be marked by 2 stars on the basis of someone's beliefs ABSOLUTELY!!! IMHO, to we follow your logic when 2 stars must be added to XMR too |
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Agent99
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June 25, 2014, 04:31:28 PM |
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In every launch of any coin, I am sure, you'll find a dev team behind a coin with a significant amount of coins
BTW, if we knew about XMR launch we didn't know for a while about an optimizer they created to mine lots of coins for themselves . But there's no stars to mark there was instamine.
+1 to remove the premine designation
From my point of view, what does stand behind ''premine'' everyone understands in their own way. There is only general features to refer to this definition. I can refer even Bitcoin to this definition as I was out of the game till recently. Unless there's no evidence to tell it's 100% ''premine'' I advise to remove designation , otherwise, there should be lots of coins to be marked by 2 stars on the basis of someone's beliefs ABSOLUTELY!!! IMHO, to we follow your logic when 2 stars must be added to XMR too My view is that there shouldn't be any designation unless the coin was premined and premining was confirmed. Otherwise, as I've told, there shouldn't be any premine designation which can mislead those miners who know little |
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David1978
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June 25, 2014, 04:44:33 PM |
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From my point of view, what does stand behind ''premine'' everyone understands in their own way. There is only general features to refer to this definition. I can refer even Bitcoin to this definition as I was out of the game till recently.
When Bitcoin appeared only a couple of people were mining it and everybody seems to be ok with that. Meanwhile, Bytecoin was mined by hundreds. Thoughts? |
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Rockefeller
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June 25, 2014, 04:57:10 PM |
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Bytecoin's two stars have to be removed. along with this rethink-your-strategy dude. Those stars are unfair  and the dude is annoying as hell.  |
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Meggie
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June 25, 2014, 05:13:43 PM |
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When Bitcoin appeared only a couple of people were mining it and everybody seems to be ok with that. Meanwhile, Bytecoin was mined by hundreds. Thoughts?
Im just so puzzled cuz...2 year history, expanding mining teams, strong developers.... seems like everything is ok but then coin appears on site as "significantly premined" and trolls flood the thread.... wtf? |
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June 25, 2014, 07:37:55 PM |
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When Bitcoin appeared only a couple of people were mining it and everybody seems to be ok with that. Meanwhile, Bytecoin was mined by hundreds. Thoughts?
Im just so puzzled cuz...2 year history, expanding mining teams, strong developers.... seems like everything is ok but then coin appears on site as "significantly premined" and trolls flood the thread.... wtf? Can you not at least pretend to be different people instead of the same idiot running troll accounts? You write like a Russian with a poor grasp of proper English grammatical constructs, and you use the same acronyms and linguistic style for everything. Obvious shills are obvious. |
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June 25, 2014, 08:09:39 PM |
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It doesn't matter if it really existed in 2012 or not, the reality is that by the time it was made publicly available in March 2014 it was unacceptably unfairly mined. This is indisputable - 82% of the coins are in the hands of persons whose motives we simply do not know, and since cryptocurrency requires a system to be trustless the argument cannot be made that we must "just trust" that those holders of 82% of the coins will not dump. Your argument seems predicated on the basis of there being "lots" of miners pre-March 2014. However, the hashrate graph proves this to be a logical fallacy, an attempt at obscuring the facts by shifting the focus of the argument (see: straw man argument) -  Finally, your nonsense about Bytecoin's devs being "the most" active is not only nonsensical, but provably false: https://github.com/amjuarez/bytecoin/compare/master@%7B1month%7D...master - 3 commits, 1 contributor, 7115 additions https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero/compare/master@%7B1month%7D...master - 88 commits, 10 contributors, 7806 additions |
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June 25, 2014, 08:11:49 PM |
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It doesn't matter if it really existed in 2012 or not, the reality is that by the time it was made publicly available in March 2014 it was unacceptably unfairly mined. This is indisputable - 82% of the coins are in the hands of persons whose motives we simply do not know, and since cryptocurrency requires a system to be trustless the argument cannot be made that we must "just trust" that those holders of 82% of the coins will not dump. Your argument seems predicated on the basis of there being "lots" of miners pre-March 2014. However, the hashrate graph proves this to be a logical fallacy, an attempt at obscuring the facts by shifting the focus of the argument (see: straw man argument) - Finally, your nonsense about Bytecoin's devs being "the most" active is not only nonsensical, but provably false: https://github.com/amjuarez/bytecoin/compare/master@%7B1month%7D...master - 3 commits, 1 contributor, 7115 additions https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero/compare/master@%7B1month%7D...master - 88 commits, 10 contributors, 7806 additions LOL, just 3 commits from Bytecoin devs...I almost fell out of my chair laughing..It's like there isnt even a dev team for Bytecoin.LOL!!! Bytecoin was premined over 80%, there is way too much proof shows it was indeed premined 80% by just a few people. I don't get why people are trying to argue over that fact, they can even check for themselves via the blockchain..christ. |
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Hexah
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June 25, 2014, 08:23:32 PM |
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Yeap, Monero did 88 useless commits and brought new bugs to the code. While BCN guys made 3 important steps to the next level technology.
But they are not as conceited as MRO's ones
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June 25, 2014, 08:23:40 PM |
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lol this is nice.  looks like the site got hacked. i was not even aware that there was some text documents on the site. The site got hacked? Really? In that case, please create a text file at http://k1024.de/sitehacked.txt that says the following: "This is to confirm that the flower1024 Bitcointalk account has not been sold, and my website was hacked, leading to someone posting a completely strange and obviously false claim that the account had been sold." Be sure to sign that using Florian Werner's GPG key...you are Florian, right? |
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Hexah
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June 25, 2014, 08:30:18 PM |
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BCN devs are not as aggressive as monero's guys, you know. And they are not malefactors as others. They do not make trojans for unfair mining.... but MRO does |
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June 25, 2014, 08:42:21 PM |
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Hi Gliss, NEMStake has been added, which is great, but it isn't presentable in the format that everyone knows the pricing in. A NEMstake is worth about 30,000 NXT at the moment as that is what it is traded in. Could you add Nxt as an option in the display currencies to help with this please? So you have USD, BTC, EUR ... NXT on the drop down list. This will become more and more useful as you add assets from the Nxt Asset Exchange. Thanks  |
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June 25, 2014, 08:52:26 PM |
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BCN devs are not as aggressive as monero's guys, you know. And they are not malefactors as others. They do not make trojans for unfair mining.... but MRO does |
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darkota
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June 25, 2014, 08:54:52 PM |
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While BCN guys made 3 minor updates.
Would you really like to compare? While just looking around, I read the monero devs fixed a issue where one could recreate the same blockchain, I'm not a coder but obviously that was a fundamental issue. And Bytecoin still has it. They also fixed 87 more issues, while Bytecoin devs "fixed" just 3. Bytecoin is laughable. Bytecoin devs hadnt done shit for cryptonote technology truthfully. They didnt even have a working miner until the monero devs fixed it.. |
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June 25, 2014, 09:49:56 PM |
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Bytecoin [BCN] vs MONERO [XMR] who will be the winner in the Cryptonote War (Read 1 times) Guys keep this Coinmarketcap clean please, it's not here for discussing which Coin is better so i've started a new thread, check it out and have fun! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=665950.new#new |
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