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September 14, 2017, 04:35:56 PM |
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What is the problem of keeping the Pre-ICO investors the % of the supply they bought according to the existing contract in the Pre-ICO (previous WITEPAPER) in the same way as if the % of the founders and developers are maintained?
Even now the future investors of the ICO that starts in 3 hours will want to be communicated this decision to verify that the TEAM acts well.
And more knowing that we were the first to blindly trust the project and that with our money helped the project to present the ICO that starts in three hours.
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immlapreicoscam
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September 14, 2017, 04:56:48 PM Last edit: September 14, 2017, 05:10:03 PM by immlapreicoscam |
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This is a clear scam and you are doing nothing but try to not talk about it and buy time. It´s clear what you have done. We tried to talk to you in the official telegram group asking for a solution and all you have done is telling us that you were thinking in a solution but nothing else. That we should wait. When we started talking about complaining outside telegram you (immla) started banning us all and deleting our messages. That´s the truth and you know it. But of course you are going to tell me that im lying and try to diverge the attention from the main subject which is have you scammed your pre ico investors? So let´s forget about telegram and let´s talk about facts. This is what we the preico investors received from you as the official information: https://i.imgur.com/JKU36mS.jpg6,3% pre ico, 7% team, 10% founder this is what we have now: https://i.imgur.com/yufznG8.jpg1,4% Preico, 7% team, 10% Founders How on earth is this not a scam to preico investors? You have changed your WP AFTER we invested, incremented heavily your supply and keeped the % for everyone (so you dont loose value) with the only exception of the preico investors. This is clear fraud and everybody must know about it before invest one single penny in your ICO. Now tell everyone if any of this numbers are wrong. Forget about telegram, im sure everybody there was flooding right? Talk everybody here if this numbers are real or not and if they are real how can not be a scam.
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September 14, 2017, 05:08:56 PM |
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We need an answer to this and a solution before ICO begins. That's great, but why are you doubling the tokens Founders and Team receive? Meanwhile, not only you are not doubling the tokens preICO investers receive, but you are halving their value. With this action you are breaking an agreement ... not the right way to start a project which tries to solve the lack of trust in the niche. Sorry. Right the same sentences in all messages. "to start a project which tries to solve the lack of trust in the niche". Please tell me why do all our critics use absolutely the same words and phrases? I'm not going to change the subject, the unanswered question is simple: Why are you doubling the tokens Founders and Team receive while halving the value of preICO investor's tokens? Originally the allocation for pre-ICO contributors was of 6.3%, of which you sold about 92%, that means pre-ICO contributors accounts for a 5.8% of the total, but then you decreased that to a 1.4%
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immla (OP)
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🌟 IMMLA ICO: Sept.15 - Oct.15 🌟
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September 14, 2017, 05:29:41 PM |
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IMMLA official announcement. Since IMMLA Board in August'2017 approved the changes in market strategy according to the China marked, which was announced in official IMMLA medias, IMMLA made the relevant changes in parameters of ICO. Because of such changes the total supply of IML tokens was increased. Since such changes may have effect to make the share of pre-ico investors less in total volume of tokens than it was announced in White Paper v.1., IMMLA suggests to pre-ICO investors buyback programm on the ICO token price to fix theirs pre-ICO special benefit 43%. This programm will be realized in the case if the volume of tokens sold on ICO will be more than volume announced in WP V.1. Those pre-ICO investors who doesn't agree with IMMLA market and ICO strategies should send their wallets numbers till the 22th of September, 2017, to the official IMMLA e-mail: info@immla.io Since 23.09.2017 00:00 pm the buyback programm window will be closed. Thank you for staying with IMMLA.
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immlapreicoscam
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September 14, 2017, 08:15:50 PM |
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Great! so now we can choose between lose value or lose more value, thank you!
Do you realize what you are doing here? You are saying you did nothing wrong cutting the value of your investors in half and keeping yours. who on earth is going to invest in your project with that announcement? And if you don´t like it there´s the door.
You did it once, you can do it again. Is normal for you. That´s what you are saying in that announcement.
And please if someone doesn't believe what this people are doing, go to the telegram group. They are still banning everything that moves. People making reasonable statements about why they are loosing confidence in the project are being banned and their messages being deleted without warning. Go there and see it for yourselves before investing a penny with this people.
Congratulations destroying your project and your investors confidence.
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Marmeto2
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September 14, 2017, 08:22:20 PM |
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I accept that I repurchase my token for the ETHs that I invested + 43% of bounty if you accept that I will repurchase the 42MM token that corresponded to Founders and dev the previous WP for the 82MM Token corresponding to the current Modified WP.
We make a deal?
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immlapreicoscam
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September 14, 2017, 08:25:55 PM |
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I will copy here that great comment in your statement before you delete it, i think it says it all
MMMmmm maybe some more information should be added to this statement,
You first launch a pre-ico with certain conditions, price, supply, bonus. Get funds from investors, ok.
The pre ico finishes, and you used the funds to build the ico and promote your project thanks to your investors, fine.
Then you changed the total supply, create double tokens from thin air, and keep your % from the old supply, that is, you double your tokens, which is logical because if you don't do it you loose half of the value since you increased supply.
But you didn't increase the tokens assigned to the pre ico investors so they did cut their value in half.
People start complaining, you start banning them in telegram and delete messages. Not nice.
And now you tell investors that they can have their money back if they don´t like the fact that you cut their value in half. Now, that they have already paid the risk for you, now that you already have used the money, now that you don´t need them.
This is a huge red flag for your project as a whole. You are in fact recognizing fraud but not fixing it. Creating an horrible precedent for all your present and future investors, who now knows that you can double, triple or do whatever you want with supply in the future, keep your ratio and make everyone else poorer. And well, if you don´t like it, no problem, we give you your money back. The money that we now don´t need, the money we already used. You paid risk in exchange of nothing. Now you can choose loose value (not because the market, just because we want you to loose value), or to loose even more value. What will you do in further decisions, when real problems arrive?
But we did everything right, it´s all you that don´t understand. This is how we roll. In all this statement, there´s not a word telling anyone that something not right was done. So you are normalizing this behavior. Normalizing stealing value from your investor like its normal. Buyers beware.
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Marmeto2
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September 14, 2017, 08:29:38 PM |
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IMMLA official announcement. Since IMMLA Board in August'2017 approved the changes in market strategy according to the China marked, which was announced in official IMMLA medias, IMMLA made the relevant changes in parameters of ICO. Because of such changes the total supply of IML tokens was increased. Since such changes may have effect to make the share of pre-ico investors less in total volume of tokens than it was announced in White Paper v.1., IMMLA suggests to pre-ICO investors buyback programm on the ICO token price to fix theirs pre-ICO special benefit 43%. This programm will be realized in the case if the volume of tokens sold on ICO will be more than volume announced in WP V.1. Those pre-ICO investors who doesn't agree with IMMLA market and ICO strategies should send their wallets numbers till the 22th of September, 2017, to the official IMMLA e-mail: info@immla.io Since 23.09.2017 00:00 pm the buyback programm window will be closed. Thank you for staying with IMMLA. Please "Immla" inform ICO buyers if they will change the conditions of the WP once the ICO is concluded, as you have done once the Pre-ICO has been completed. You do not have credibility, I do not think anyone will invest in a project in which the team does not comply with the agreement. They are not opinions are facts.
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immla (OP)
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🌟 IMMLA ICO: Sept.15 - Oct.15 🌟
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September 14, 2017, 08:42:18 PM |
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IMMLA Project to start its ICO just in less than 30 minutes – at 00.00 (UTC+3), on September 15.To participate in IMMLA ICO you need to visit IMMLA website: https://ico.immla.ioEarly participants of ICO will get bonus 8%. That's because the sale will take place among 4 lots, where each lot will be approximately 2.5% more expensive than the previous one. Why should you invest it IMMLA: - IMMLA plans to redeem and burn IML tokens with 36% of the proceeds. This will drive up the price, increasing the benefits to contributors even more; - IMMLA give bonuses for early participation in ICO; - you take part in building revolutionary service based on blockchain. "Before the start of ICO, IMMLA faced a very serious ddos attack and a campaign for project discreditation. Despite all the difficulties, ICO IMMLA starts on time. We thank our community, which supports us on our way to develop the best multimodal logistic application," said Mikhail Astakhov, co-founder of IMMLA. Earlier IMMLA released Proof of Concept of its system. It is available at immla.dev-group.io and shows the work of the IMMLA blockchain. External monitoring of the IMMLA blockchain is available at ethscan.dev-group.io. Also pre-alpha version of IMMLA system was released on September 10. A video-overview of pre-alpha version is available on the official channel of IMMLA on Youtube. Further details about the project are available in our White Paper ver. 2.0. Contributing in IMMLA gives you a possibility to make a revolution in international logistics!
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immlapreicoscam
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September 14, 2017, 08:49:04 PM |
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"Before the start of ICO, IMMLA faced a very serious ddos attack and a campaign for project discreditation. Despite all the difficulties, ICO IMMLA starts on time. We thank our community, which supports us on our way to develop the best multimodal logistic application," said Mikhail Astakhov, co-founder of IMMLA.
Oh boy this is an attack? are we lying? why the announcement then? this is just laughable
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September 14, 2017, 09:34:40 PM |
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Participated in the pre ico, and this is clear theft.
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September 14, 2017, 09:55:35 PM Last edit: September 14, 2017, 10:18:24 PM by blueangel01 |
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Im dissappointed. I was expecting 0.1% of the supply. Now, I can't afford it. It is just too expensive. I told you from the beginning that it is important to build the community 1st. I sent 50 eth on pre ico. How much will i get on the buy back?
Technology is very dynamic. Just because you made the 1st move, does not mean you will dominate the market or create a moat around it. i guess im just going to wait for the next logistic ico.
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Obi2024
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September 15, 2017, 12:07:49 AM |
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We need an answer to this and a solution before ICO begins. That's great, but why are you doubling the tokens Founders and Team receive? Meanwhile, not only you are not doubling the tokens preICO investers receive, but you are halving their value. With this action you are breaking an agreement ... not the right way to start a project which tries to solve the lack of trust in the niche. Sorry. Right the same sentences in all messages. "to start a project which tries to solve the lack of trust in the niche". Please tell me why do all our critics use absolutely the same words and phrases? I'm not going to change the subject, the unanswered question is simple: Why are you doubling the tokens Founders and Team receive while halving the value of preICO investor's tokens? Originally the allocation for pre-ICO contributors was of 6.3%, of which you sold about 92%, that means pre-ICO contributors accounts for a 5.8% of the total, but then you decreased that to a 1.4% I do not know if some people were sent to attack IMMLA project directly, the change that was made was announced and nobody said anything about it, why are you guys just seeing it now, the team has made an announcement for anyone who wants refund to come forward, if you are not happy with that, please make your submission without calling the project a scam because it is not.
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freo
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September 15, 2017, 01:28:49 AM |
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As a pre-ICO investor i'm not happy at all. Its this sort of thing that gives ICO's a bad name and leads to the push towards regulation. You've lost the trust of those who supported you before everyone else.
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September 15, 2017, 03:57:05 AM |
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what a scam. your shit ico will surely fail
immla = scammers
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September 15, 2017, 06:49:34 AM |
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Don't believe them. They are scammers They scam to the preico investor. They have used our money for 2 months to improve the project. Now our reward to invest in early stage is to lose money. Now we have 1.7% instead of 6.3% but they conserv thier % It is their way to make bussines. They will do it again later, they will defraud you too. Don´t trust in those kind of people. SCAMMERS!!!!
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Joh3nny
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September 15, 2017, 06:56:56 AM |
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They threw me out to the telegram group to talk about this i was there in early stage when there were 40 people, 3 months ago. They don´t care the investor. DON´T BELIEVE THEM SCAMMERS
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MsCollec
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September 15, 2017, 07:30:37 AM |
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Don't waste your time investing in an ico that the founders cant keep promise to early investors. Maybe in future they will issue more coins, more token IMMLA 2, 3 etc. STAY AWAY!
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Notin2
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September 15, 2017, 07:45:26 AM |
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I think its best immla address this issue and find a consensus that best suit both investors and team to avoid any negativity that will affect this great project.
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immlapreicoscam
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September 15, 2017, 08:31:28 AM |
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We need an answer to this and a solution before ICO begins. That's great, but why are you doubling the tokens Founders and Team receive? Meanwhile, not only you are not doubling the tokens preICO investers receive, but you are halving their value. With this action you are breaking an agreement ... not the right way to start a project which tries to solve the lack of trust in the niche. Sorry. Right the same sentences in all messages. "to start a project which tries to solve the lack of trust in the niche". Please tell me why do all our critics use absolutely the same words and phrases? I'm not going to change the subject, the unanswered question is simple: Why are you doubling the tokens Founders and Team receive while halving the value of preICO investor's tokens? Originally the allocation for pre-ICO contributors was of 6.3%, of which you sold about 92%, that means pre-ICO contributors accounts for a 5.8% of the total, but then you decreased that to a 1.4% I do not know if some people were sent to attack IMMLA project directly, the change that was made was announced and nobody said anything about it, why are you guys just seeing it now, the team has made an announcement for anyone who wants refund to come forward, if you are not happy with that, please make your submission without calling the project a scam because it is not. Well, you do know perfectly well because you were there when people started complaining in the telegram group. You know we are normal people complaining and there´s no conspiracy or attack whatsoever. You know we were patient and polite for a long time yesterday before we jumped to other forums after you banning us. Why we did that?, because we invested literally hundred of thousands of $ (yes, that much) in your project and all we wanted was things doing right and project mooning like any investor. Team had a chance to fix this but instead they ban us and screw us like this. Really, what do they expect? that we go home to cry? This is not attack and everybody in the team knows it. Because the only thing we are doing here is bringing facts to light. When you attack someone you use lies and fud. Facts you (i don't know if you are team, if not sorry) recognise and are trying to normalize with that announcement, which is the worst thing you could possible have done. About timing: We started complaining when we found about it. We found about it looking the ico numbers when it was about to start and were shocked. As simple as that. It will be really sad if this project fails. We did huge research and choose you among your competitors. We invested a ton of money. Took high risk and knew it. Sadly immla made the wrong decisions. Well, its ok i guess sometimes shit goes bad, and that´s why this is a risky investment.
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