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July 22, 2013, 09:54:47 PM |
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I want to be excited, but with only 1.25btc a day from each unit, its hard to jump for joy over the arrival of the new machine.
Look at it this way. You paid ~75 BTC for 84 GH/s and now have your miner in-hand. Think of all the BFL Singles that were purchased for 200 BTC for 60 GH/s, and they still haven't been shipped yet. You got a great deal! |
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July 22, 2013, 09:58:32 PM |
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So ... any reports of 4 module batch 3's yet?
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CoinHoarder
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July 22, 2013, 10:00:10 PM |
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So ... any reports of 4 module batch 3's yet?
No, there aren't. It seems they are not shipping yet for some reason. All of my orders were 4 modules, if I would have known this would be a problem I would have ordered 3 module versions in a second... |
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candoo
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July 22, 2013, 10:01:59 PM |
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the same shit happens again and again. Why doesnt yifu update us? Shipping should be finished this week and it appears that there are only like 10 units shipped so far!
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Einer trage des andern Last, so werdet ihr das Gesetz Christi erfüllen.
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CoinHoarder
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July 22, 2013, 10:42:44 PM |
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the same shit happens again and again. Why doesnt yifu update us? Shipping should be finished this week and it appears that there are only like 10 units shipped so far!
Avalon gives us 2 days to get a refund & say they'll ship next week, and as of now there's only a handful of machines that have shipped in Batch 3 even a week later... There's still a lot of batch 1s and 2s that still haven't shipped either, and they just get ignored by Bitsyncom like they are not his problem... He took in millions of dollars in Bitcoins and now can care less about the people whom enriched him- it is quite scummy/scammy/disgusting. Take a few thousand dollars out of the millions you made and hire someone for support, it's not that hard. They're either too cheap or they just don't care, and as time goes on and they make more and more money from chip sales, I'm leaning towards the latter. I can't believe I'm saying this, but it's about time for a scammer tag, eh? I think someone started a scammer thread the other day in the scam subforum for Batch 1s and 2s that still haven't arrived. |
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July 22, 2013, 11:53:04 PM |
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One refund has been processed... so B3 at least seems to be taking priority comparatively  |
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100%digital
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July 23, 2013, 03:11:07 AM |
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Scammer tag? Get real. Now that batch 3 rape is inescapable your bitching. Countless warnings were ignored.
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martinm
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July 23, 2013, 03:45:41 AM |
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the same shit happens again and again. Why doesnt yifu update us? Shipping should be finished this week and it appears that there are only like 10 units shipped so far!
Avalon gives us 2 days to get a refund & say they'll ship next week, and as of now there's only a handful of machines that have shipped in Batch 3 even a week later... There's still a lot of batch 1s and 2s that still haven't shipped either, and they just get ignored by Bitsyncom like they are not his problem... He took in millions of dollars in Bitcoins and now can care less about the people whom enriched him- it is quite scummy/scammy/disgusting. Take a few thousand dollars out of the millions you made and hire someone for support, it's not that hard. They're either too cheap or they just don't care, and as time goes on and they make more and more money from chip sales, I'm leaning towards the latter. I can't believe I'm saying this, but it's about time for a scammer tag, eh? I think someone started a scammer thread the other day in the scam subforum for Batch 1s and 2s that still haven't arrived. A scammer tag wouldn't hurt them, you have to go after their cash and for this you would need to involve a legal entity. I'm really curious if their business practice are conform with US law. Selling products under wrong promises (ROI prediction), sending out products as samples even they aren't. Import products without needed certifications, let customers abroad pay in foreign currency to private bank accounts (chinese customers could pay in RMB to an chinese account). Using customer products for own profit before delivery,.... Is all that really legal in US? The list could be even more extended, could be worth to let an attorney look into this case, all this points looking suspicious to me. |
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CoinHoarder
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July 23, 2013, 03:48:48 AM |
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Scammer tag? Get real. Now that batch 3 rape is inescapable your bitching. Countless warnings were ignored.
I'm not even going to waste time to respond to you, going through your post count you have some type of personal vendetta against me (I'm not sure why). 1/3 of your posts are directed towards me in a negative manner. Get lost kid, let the adults get back to business.. |
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CoinHoarder
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July 23, 2013, 03:53:54 AM |
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A scammer tag wouldn't hurt them, you have to go after their cash and for this you would need to involve a legal entity. I'm really curious if their business practice are conform with US law. Selling products under wrong promises (ROI prediction), sending out products as samples even they aren't. Import products without needed certifications, let customers abroad pay in foreign currency to private bank accounts (chinese customers could pay in RMB to an chinese account). Using customer products for own profit before delivery,.... Is all that really legal in US? The list could be even more extended, could be worth to let an attorney look into this case, all this points looking suspicious to me.
I agree a scammer tag won't do much. I guarantee if they keep delaying and not delivering more batch 1/2/3 machines and chip orders, there will definitely be some people filing lawsuits against them (me included if they keep delaying or just ignore me and never ship my equipment.) There are several lawsuits forming for BFL customers that I've heard of, Avalon's day is coming too if they don't get their stuff straightened out. I believe Avalon is a USA registered company by Bitsyncom, so it is certainly under the jurisdiction of US courts. |
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ProfMac
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July 23, 2013, 04:26:54 AM |
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the same shit happens again and again. Why doesnt yifu update us? Shipping should be finished this week and it appears that there are only like 10 units shipped so far!
Avalon gives us 2 days to get a refund & say they'll ship next week, and as of now there's only a handful of machines that have shipped in Batch 3 even a week later... There's still a lot of batch 1s and 2s that still haven't shipped either, and they just get ignored by Bitsyncom like they are not his problem... He took in millions of dollars in Bitcoins and now can care less about the people whom enriched him- it is quite scummy/scammy/disgusting. Take a few thousand dollars out of the millions you made and hire someone for support, it's not that hard. They're either too cheap or they just don't care, and as time goes on and they make more and more money from chip sales, I'm leaning towards the latter. I can't believe I'm saying this, but it's about time for a scammer tag, eh? I think someone started a scammer thread the other day in the scam subforum for Batch 1s and 2s that still haven't arrived. A scammer tag wouldn't hurt them, you have to go after their cash and for this you would need to involve a legal entity. I'm really curious if their business practice are conform with US law. Selling products under wrong promises (ROI prediction), sending out products as samples even they aren't. Import products without needed certifications, let customers abroad pay in foreign currency to private bank accounts (chinese customers could pay in RMB to an chinese account). Using customer products for own profit before delivery,.... Is all that really legal in US? The list could be even more extended, could be worth to let an attorney look into this case, all this points looking suspicious to me. What is your goal? |
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100%digital
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July 23, 2013, 04:39:27 AM
Last edit: July 23, 2013, 04:59:31 AM by 100%digital |
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Scammer tag? Get real. Now that batch 3 rape is inescapable your bitching. Countless warnings were ignored.
I'm not even going to waste time to respond to you, going through your post count you have some type of personal vendetta against me (I'm not sure why). 1/3 of your posts are directed towards me in a negative manner. Get lost kid, let the adults get back to business.. You're in the wrong business son, the goal is to appreciate your btc stash, not degrade it. Gl with ur money printing machine. |
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martinm
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July 23, 2013, 05:03:06 AM |
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the same shit happens again and again. Why doesnt yifu update us? Shipping should be finished this week and it appears that there are only like 10 units shipped so far!
Avalon gives us 2 days to get a refund & say they'll ship next week, and as of now there's only a handful of machines that have shipped in Batch 3 even a week later... There's still a lot of batch 1s and 2s that still haven't shipped either, and they just get ignored by Bitsyncom like they are not his problem... He took in millions of dollars in Bitcoins and now can care less about the people whom enriched him- it is quite scummy/scammy/disgusting. Take a few thousand dollars out of the millions you made and hire someone for support, it's not that hard. They're either too cheap or they just don't care, and as time goes on and they make more and more money from chip sales, I'm leaning towards the latter. I can't believe I'm saying this, but it's about time for a scammer tag, eh? I think someone started a scammer thread the other day in the scam subforum for Batch 1s and 2s that still haven't arrived. A scammer tag wouldn't hurt them, you have to go after their cash and for this you would need to involve a legal entity. I'm really curious if their business practice are conform with US law. Selling products under wrong promises (ROI prediction), sending out products as samples even they aren't. Import products without needed certifications, let customers abroad pay in foreign currency to private bank accounts (chinese customers could pay in RMB to an chinese account). Using customer products for own profit before delivery,.... Is all that really legal in US? The list could be even more extended, could be worth to let an attorney look into this case, all this points looking suspicious to me. What is your goal? To get clear if people have rights that protects them from being exploited. There are laws and regulations to protect customers for good reason, people can stand in for their right and let companies know that they have to follow that rules made by the society. Well, if no one complains there will be no justice. The powerful will only change if they are forced to. My personal impression is that a lot of customers tried many ways to get in contact with BitSyncom to settle problems, however they don't seem really encouraged to give answers or to be honest. What choice does these customers have left? |
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SolarSilver
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July 23, 2013, 06:19:50 AM |
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This looks like the old Batch #2 design, the newer one with the laser cut air vents had the motherboard with ethernet in the front, these still have them in the back and use the hand mounted vents. Still cleaning out old stock? |
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July 23, 2013, 10:24:55 AM |
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I wish we could organise group lawsuit. If all batch #3 customers wish to throw few btc for that we could afford very nice and effective lawyer.
This would be only rational way of dealing with Bitsyncom, any only hope for partial refund of bitcoins that they have mined with our equipment.
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luffy
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July 23, 2013, 11:36:52 AM |
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with DHL? what paperwork was included ? a CE certification document? what about the invoice? thanks |
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koob
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July 23, 2013, 11:39:02 AM |
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Invoice in batch#3 is valued in btc, $ value is hand written next to it. Expect problems at customs.
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luffy
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July 23, 2013, 11:43:27 AM |
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well the value in $ is declared officially in DHL document thus this is not much of a problem. the real problem is the CE.
i wonder about batch #2 avalons though. Were there any problems with CE?
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martinm
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July 23, 2013, 12:12:34 PM |
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I wish we could organise group lawsuit. If all batch #3 customers wish to throw few btc for that we could afford very nice and effective lawyer.
This would be only rational way of dealing with Bitsyncom, any only hope for partial refund of bitcoins that they have mined with our equipment.
If this week pass without a positive result, I would suggest to talk with this law firm http://www.coindesk.com/us-law-firm-nesenoff-miltenberg-accepts-payment-in-bitcoin/. As far as I know it's possible in US that a group of people can start together a law suit. So customers could organize and these law firm could take up that case. They could be even personally interested in such a case as this would bring some publicity. Besides this it would be a signal for the whole industry to take care of customers and regulations. We even could pay the law firm with Bitcoins, so customers all over the wold can participate without big problems. |
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