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Author Topic: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees  (Read 703566 times)
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December 11, 2017, 09:34:06 AM
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yea seems like the futures is hungry for coin....
a few hours ago....
After the hugely anticipated launch, the launch was enjoying a strong debut. Bitcoin futures expiring in January were priced at $17,780 as of 4.57am GMT, up from an opening level of $15,000. About 2,300 contracts changed hands.
The contracts climbed more than 20 percent and triggered two trading halts designed to cool volatility. Dealers said initial volumes exceeded expectations, while traffic on Cboe’s website was so strong that it caused delays and outages

anyways, now for BCH
BCH futures are on the way i hear, they need it to be...
$1370 for a coin thats on the way to the futures next..... Shocked

Futures don't seem to be moving the market as expected. People sold the news 3 days too early.
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December 11, 2017, 12:57:21 PM
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yea seems like the futures is hungry for coin....
a few hours ago....
After the hugely anticipated launch, the launch was enjoying a strong debut. Bitcoin futures expiring in January were priced at $17,780 as of 4.57am GMT, up from an opening level of $15,000. About 2,300 contracts changed hands.
The contracts climbed more than 20 percent and triggered two trading halts designed to cool volatility. Dealers said initial volumes exceeded expectations, while traffic on Cboe’s website was so strong that it caused delays and outages

anyways, now for BCH
BCH futures are on the way i hear, they need it to be...
$1370 for a coin thats on the way to the futures next..... Shocked

Futures don't seem to be moving the market as expected. People sold the news 3 days too early.

The futures are still on their early stages. Many big brokers will be onboarding their clients slowly over the next months. The giants like JP or Goldman are too slow to see any effect of their actions immediately. Many smaller brokers will probably try to win a bigger market share before all the whales.

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December 11, 2017, 03:37:28 PM
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Search for and read:

Lightning Network Will Likely Fail Due To Several Possible Reasons

at:

https://medium.com/@curt0/lightning-network-will-likely-fail-due-to-several-possible-reasons-336c6c47f049

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https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/7iwhnp/lightning_network_will_likely_fail_due_to_several/
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December 11, 2017, 04:14:33 PM
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Well Craig Wright has been touting that they are working on ways to optimize they way BCH handles the transactions and and will be switching to unlimited blocks sometime in 2018. Shall we consider that Vaporware too? Roll Eyes

Until it is released in the real world, then yes it is all vaporware.

Bitcoin Cash does not currently have any scaling problems, segshit does.


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Well, then I shall assume that BCH will only be able to scale to about 50-60tx per minute. Very paltry rate when we want this to be used by the masses to buy coffee. Kiss


Right now you can use BCH to buy a cup of coffee.

Do you dare say segshit is able to buy a cup with the current transaction fee is ~$15  and a 4 day delay in payment receipt.

LOL.

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I can use Litecoin to buy coffee


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December 11, 2017, 04:27:03 PM
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Coffee Debit Card from Bitcoin.com

https://twitter.com/rogerkver/status/940253050731679744


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December 11, 2017, 04:31:34 PM
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BOOM!!!!

Great news!!!

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Baby steps into user & shop adoption - but very enlightening !

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December 11, 2017, 04:43:31 PM
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Is it profitable to invest in BCH now? Or better in the traditional btc?
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December 11, 2017, 04:47:00 PM
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Baby steps into user & shop adoption - but very enlightening !

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And how is this any different to the bitcoin card I have already



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December 11, 2017, 04:54:10 PM
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There is no chance without a rise, the addition of the futures market increases the risk of digital currency, and I have some panic like walking on the edge of a cliff
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December 11, 2017, 06:50:05 PM
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Baby steps into user & shop adoption - but very enlightening !

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And how is this any different to the bitcoin card I have already

Perhaps it does not cost $15 in miner's fees every time you use it.

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December 11, 2017, 06:53:41 PM
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Baby steps into user & shop adoption - but very enlightening !

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And how is this any different to the bitcoin card I have already

Perhaps it does not cost $15 in miner's fees every time you use it.

Mine don't I have spend under 1 USD recently on it

Here a quick 0.42USD transaction just for you

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December 11, 2017, 08:07:55 PM
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Mine don't I have spend under 1 USD recently on it

Here a quick 0.42USD transaction just for you

https://images2.imgbox.com/32/bf/CTzITJ72_o.png

Your example is an exception to the rule.  The median BTC fee is currently $12.42

https://bitinfocharts.com/bitcoin/
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December 11, 2017, 08:15:28 PM
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I had BTC in my Electrum wallet. Now, I have BCH after the fork.

However, there are news about scam wallets that are stealing coins, such as the mybtgwallet (Bitcoin Gold) and Coinpouch wallets:

https://news.bitcoin.com/bitcoin-gold-wallet-stole-private-keys-scooped-3-3-million/

They blamed Bitcoingold.org for publishing a link to the scam wallet and for not having audited the wallet beforehand.

Has anyone reviewed or audited the source code of any BCH wallets?

Has Bitcoincash.org reviewed or audited the source code of any of the wallets on its site? If so, how can we confident that they have?
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December 11, 2017, 08:50:35 PM
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yea seems like the futures is hungry for coin....
a few hours ago....
After the hugely anticipated launch, the launch was enjoying a strong debut. Bitcoin futures expiring in January were priced at $17,780 as of 4.57am GMT, up from an opening level of $15,000. About 2,300 contracts changed hands.
The contracts climbed more than 20 percent and triggered two trading halts designed to cool volatility. Dealers said initial volumes exceeded expectations, while traffic on Cboe’s website was so strong that it caused delays and outages

anyways, now for BCH
BCH futures are on the way i hear, they need it to be...
$1370 for a coin thats on the way to the futures next..... Shocked

Futures don't seem to be moving the market as expected. People sold the news 3 days too early.

The futures are still on their early stages. Many big brokers will be onboarding their clients slowly over the next months. The giants like JP or Goldman are too slow to see any effect of their actions immediately. Many smaller brokers will probably try to win a bigger market share before all the whales.



I don't think Goldman and JPM are quite as big as they think they are when it comes to moving BTC prices. We're talking about a global market which includes huge pumpers in South Korea and Japan. Also the CBOE futures markets are rigged with circuit breakers at like 8% fluctuation. That's nothing in Bitcoin land. They should've been triggered multiple times since trading opened yesterday.

Did anyone else notice Andreas is a regulator for CBOE trading? I guess he took the payout - sad. Then again, he already appeared to sell out when he refused to take a stand against Kore censorship and he pumped the Segwit dead meme. 

Also does anyone have a link to CBOE BTC futures charts?
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December 11, 2017, 09:49:39 PM
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yea seems like the futures is hungry for coin....
a few hours ago....
After the hugely anticipated launch, the launch was enjoying a strong debut. Bitcoin futures expiring in January were priced at $17,780 as of 4.57am GMT, up from an opening level of $15,000. About 2,300 contracts changed hands.
The contracts climbed more than 20 percent and triggered two trading halts designed to cool volatility. Dealers said initial volumes exceeded expectations, while traffic on Cboe’s website was so strong that it caused delays and outages

anyways, now for BCH
BCH futures are on the way i hear, they need it to be...
$1370 for a coin thats on the way to the futures next..... Shocked

Futures don't seem to be moving the market as expected. People sold the news 3 days too early.

The futures are still on their early stages. Many big brokers will be onboarding their clients slowly over the next months. The giants like JP or Goldman are too slow to see any effect of their actions immediately. Many smaller brokers will probably try to win a bigger market share before all the whales.



I don't think Goldman and JPM are quite as big as they think they are when it comes to moving BTC prices. We're talking about a global market which includes huge pumpers in South Korea and Japan. Also the CBOE futures markets are rigged with circuit breakers at like 8% fluctuation. That's nothing in Bitcoin land. They should've been triggered multiple times since trading opened yesterday.

Did anyone else notice Andreas is a regulator for CBOE trading? I guess he took the payout - sad. Then again, he already appeared to sell out when he refused to take a stand against Kore censorship and he pumped the Segwit dead meme. 

Also does anyone have a link to CBOE BTC futures charts?
yea your right about other big players...
ive noticed, china pump dump then ban in hope to get all coins back cheap many times...
now south korea have made alot of profit from pumps recently and today i heard their gov is now considering banning exchanges( they prob dumped like china and want cheap coins back)
so the big players try to regain position only to see the coins keep going up...last resort...we banning crypto lol
im sure jp morgan tried that tactic a few month back, when jamie dimon called btc a scam, while he was buying lol
soon usa will do the same, once they dump, and take profits...try to ban crypto(fud as usual)

i gave up on andreas around the time the dao hack happened...

on a live stream , he and others dicuss eth/dao hack...he is asked if he still holds eth...he says..."no, i dumped them all, i dont like my coins being volatile,going down 20% a day" (or something similar lol) i was like wtf is he talking about....why is he trolling....then i just stopped listening to him....now i hear he is a blockstream guy, so makes sense now lol

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December 11, 2017, 10:07:37 PM
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Nice Alan Greenspan propaganda with old silent films clips from MSNBCBS:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yN8wQ5c7uk

"You cannot tell me that you can create, out of nothing, something which has a medium of exchange value".
Says the world's second largest FRN counterfeiter - what a hypocritical old fossil.

2 more bitcoin ATM manufacturers integrating BCH support and Ver drops mentions of a BCH credit card.

Also: https://cashshuffle.com/

BULLISH.
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December 11, 2017, 10:13:17 PM
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yea your right about other big players...
ive noticed, china pump dump then ban in hope to get all coins back cheap many times...
now south korea have made alot of profit from pumps recently and today i heard their gov is now considering banning exchanges( they prob dumped like china and want cheap coins back)
so the big players try to regain position only to see the coins keep going up...last resort...we banning crypto lol
im sure jp morgan tried that tactic a few month back, when jamie dimon called btc a scam, while he was buying lol
soon usa will do the same, once they dump, and take profits...try to ban crypto(fud as usual)

i gave up on andreas around the time the dao hack happened...

on a live stream , he and others dicuss eth/dao hack...he is asked if he still holds eth...he says..."no, i dumped them all, i dont like my coins being volatile,going down 20% a day" (or something similar lol) i was like wtf is he talking about....why is he trolling....then i just stopped listening to him....now i hear he is a blockstream guy, so makes sense now lol


Sad to see smart people sell out. Early-Andreas was a hero with his Greek bailout stories and condemnation of our murderous overlords. Now he looks all tired and paranoid with his baggy eyes. "Everyone has a price".

Maybe central banks are actually dumb enough to try to corner the crypto markets? It's been proposed many times, but most of the time the obvious conclusion is that they'd be playing "Whack-a-mole", and new cryptos would keep rising to replace the older ones as they are compromised...
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December 11, 2017, 10:30:00 PM
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correction time....
big btab/btc/segwit1x dump on the way


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December 11, 2017, 10:34:05 PM
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correction time....
big btab/btc/segwit1x dump on the way


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BTC is going to the moon today, almost hit 18000$ at CexIo, and to the end of the year predictions are 25000$, next year 100000$..For BTC everything is possible, so so good, I love BTC Smiley

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