[ANN][ICO] Dmarket - the worlds first decentralized, cross-game marketplace.

[D_market]

Please check my contribution with BTC , my account is:
trandinhcuong@gmail.com
my transaction Id (14 confirmation already):
2d10abdaadecb48f06945deda01dc77e13aaa76cd203085e07d54f243b6f270f
unique BTC address Dmarket create for my contribution:
1GvgrRAKLVZnwJi8MC5c3gaeu5F9z7xXoM

In Dmarkket.IO website, I see my contribution is still zero

Hi!
Our supports will connect with you via Email in the nearest future to figure the problem out.

[ansuz]

Hi, how many confirmations do I need to ensure a transaction is successful (Bitcoin)?

Becasue I ready have 6 confirmations and still nothing in my account ansuz@s____m.__ on dmarket.io.

My ID transaction
488ab1a54e2da512b7b74dcbff4bbf1fef2289289fb706bfa74a62b8a095984b
BTC adress:
1EtQnKvKtMC5MLwgNhjiFCVZiCRPeovfaN

https://blockchain.info/address/1EtQnKvKtMC5MLwgNhjiFCVZiCRPeovfaN

Please look at it.

Thank you.


All is OK after 7 confirmation I will issue. I see credit.

[D_market]

Hi! Thanks for the questions.
We don’t use the smart contract technology on the first stage. We have developed our own service which
allows us to process incoming transactions from different blockchains because smart contracts at Ethereum
can’t control transactions on bitcoin blockchain. The decision to develop our service can be supported by
the fact that the software used on the main computer has been developed for decades, while the Ethereum
smart contracts appeared only a couple years ago.
2. Our service is monitoring all incoming transactions to our accounts. The service accrues tokens to the
contributors’ accounts and saves this in the database according to the token sale policy, as described on our
landing page. The contributors can see the amount of accrued tokens on their profile pages. If a contributor
would like to check the accuracy of the token accrual, they can compare the correctness of the calculations
with the information from the blockchain. In this case, the blockchain is the source of the primary data.
4. The service described above also helps us check every transaction twice before sending the tokens and
therefore ensure the safety of gathered tokens. All transactions done by the rules of the service will be
taken into account in full.
5. At that, we are planning on using a simplified smart-contract based on the OpenZeppelin framework (see
GitHub V2) at the end of the second stage of the token sale, which will allow us to solve two main issues:
1) Implementation of the ERC20 interface, which will allow trading our tokens on the external stock
markets.
2) Accrual of the tokens bought by contributors to their wallets using the smart contract feature.
As a result, the combination of our service and smart contract technology of token sale will guarantee
simplicity, reliability, clarity, and safety of the contributions and token accrual to the personal wallets of
contributors.

1 - That makes no sense. You can still use a smart contract for the Ether payments and your own system for the BTC payments. The benefit for your investors is that with a smart contract your tokens will be automatically and certainly distributed, while with your approach there is only a promise and nothing else. The whole point of using a smart contract is to avoid the middle man, which is you. You offer a project based on the Ethereum network, yet you don't use the one benefit it provides. That is counter-intuitive and can be interpreted as a possibility to scam.
2 - The blockchain only shows how much Ether you have received from each investor. No tokens exist yet, so the balance on your website is purely cosmetic.
4 - How can you possible believe that your manual approach is more secure than an automated contract? You are basically denying the underlying principle behind the Ethereum network.

1) Our token sale is currently available for two currencies, and we are going to add more options to choose from for the second round. A smart contract doesn’t allow to work directly with other blockchains. As we’ve already noted, it can include only one cryptocurrency. In this case, ETH. Unfortunately, not all of the investors are working with Ether. Those, who prefer other options, have to search for a way to transfer their coins to Ether, create an Ethereum wallet and invest in the ICO. We believe that all the investors should have equal opportunities.
We decided on the current method based on a unified approach for every customer and the simplicity of the investment process.
Unfortunately, even the smart contract doesn’t eliminate the possibility of fraud or scammers. Moreover, recently there were safety concerns with the usage of smart contracts.
2) You can use other sources - they will show you the same numbers. Calling it “cosmetic” equals to calling every blockchain transaction “cosmetic” as there is no access to the account.
3) As the recent months demonstrated both smart contract and multisignature wallets do not guarantee complete security.  It all depends on who writes the code. We are creating safe and secure code for DMarket marketplace. As the Ethereum smart contract won’t be driving the marketplace, we’ve chosen the simplest and the safest way for token distribution during the token sale.

1 - Your current sale is no different to what you are describing. You currently use 2 currencies (ETH + BTC) and 2 blockchains. If you used a Smart Contract you would still use 2 currencies (ETH + BTC) and 2 blockchains. There is no difference, apart from more security for you investors when using a Smart Contract, because then the token release is automatic. Now every investor has to trust you, that you will do as promised. This is the exact opposite of what the Smart contracts was designed for. And your point about fraud is equally relevant with or without Smart contracts. Actually it is more likely without a Smart Contract.
2 - I am not arguing over the existence of all investors' ether transactions. My point is that no tokens has been created. Please explain to me what Your token balance: XXXX means exactly. What tokens are these?
3 - You will be using ERC-20 tokens, but you won't be using a Smart Contract?

1) In our previous posts, we have already explained you the technical details and our approach, and how it will protect our investor. There is no need to repeat it twice or even three times. It is based on the many-years-successful expertise of our team, that we totally trust and believe in. The investor trusts the project and the team behind it. And we have it all.
 
We do appreciate your opinion and respect it. We are also kindly asking you to respect bitcointalk participants and do an effort not using red colors while expressing your opinion. Thank you in advance.

2) The token balance on the account is a number of tokens that the investor will receive on his personal respective cryptocurrency wallet by the end of DMarket Tokens Sale phase #2
Everything is clear, transparent and equal for all DMarket investors.

3) We will use a smart contact to distribute our tokens after the Token Sale phase#2. It is based on smart-contract technology as every token on ETH network.
Once again: the combination of our service and smart contract technology of token sale will guarantee simplicity, reliability, clarity, and safety of the contributions and token accrual to the personal wallets of contributors.

[first.down]

Please check my contribution with BTC , my account is:
trandinhcuong@gmail.com
my transaction Id (14 confirmation already):
2d10abdaadecb48f06945deda01dc77e13aaa76cd203085e07d54f243b6f270f
unique BTC address Dmarket create for my contribution:
1GvgrRAKLVZnwJi8MC5c3gaeu5F9z7xXoM

In Dmarkket.IO website, I see my contribution is still zero

Hi!
Our supports will connect with you via Email in the nearest future to figure the problem out.

Thanks for your support, now I can my contribution value in your website, maybe the website takes sometime to update

[always2late]

LOL at all of the people who didnt read the sales policy or the white paper

[CYPER]

1 - Your current sale is no different to what you are describing. You currently use 2 currencies (ETH + BTC) and 2 blockchains. If you used a Smart Contract you would still use 2 currencies (ETH + BTC) and 2 blockchains. There is no difference, apart from more security for you investors when using a Smart Contract, because then the token release is automatic. Now every investor has to trust you, that you will do as promised. This is the exact opposite of what the Smart contracts was designed for. And your point about fraud is equally relevant with or without Smart contracts. Actually it is more likely without a Smart Contract.
2 - I am not arguing over the existence of all investors' ether transactions. My point is that no tokens has been created. Please explain to me what Your token balance: XXXX means exactly. What tokens are these?
3 - You will be using ERC-20 tokens, but you won't be using a Smart Contract?

1) In our previous posts, we have already explained you the technical details and our approach, and how it will protect our investor. There is no need to repeat it twice or even three times. It is based on the many-years-successful expertise of our team, that we totally trust and believe in. The investor trusts the project and the team behind it. And we have it all.
 
We do appreciate your opinion and respect it. We are also kindly asking you to respect bitcointalk participants and do an effort not using red colors while expressing your opinion. Thank you in advance.

2) The token balance on the account is a number of tokens that the investor will receive on his personal respective cryptocurrency wallet by the end of DMarket Tokens Sale phase #2
Everything is clear, transparent and equal for all DMarket investors.

3) . It is based on smart-contract technology as every token on ETH network.
Once again: the combination of our service and smart contract technology of token sale will guarantee simplicity, reliability, clarity, and safety of the contributions and token accrual to the personal wallets of contributors.

1 - I appreciate you trying to explain it, but what you are saying still makes no sense and the reasons behind are invalid. You again failed to provide a valid reason why your method is better than a Smart Contract.
2 - That is the reason I said the number is cosmetic. There is no such token created yet = there are no transactions associated with it.
3 - You are absolutely contradicting yourself. First you say "As the Ethereum smart contract won’t be driving the marketplace, we’ve chosen the simplest and the safest way for token distribution during the token sale." and then you say "We will use a smart contact to distribute our tokens after the Token Sale phase#2"

I see that a lot of people trust you, but when you fail to provide clear answers then for me that's a sign to be vigilant and I urge all your investors to so the same.

The facts are:
1 - There is no valid reason not to have used a smart contract during the sale.
2 - I asked twice if akhavr was part of your team and you chose to be silent about it and neither confirm it, nor deny it. This clearly shows a lack of transparency.

[leea-1334]

I'm getting confused by some of the discussions here. But let me try and separate the main points from both sides.

Side A is asking why not use smart contract to secure the ICO sales.
Side B is saying there is no need.
My thought is a lot of ICOs are done like this, so yes, there is no need, if you believe the developer. You trust the developer will create and credit all tokens after ICO.

Side A is unsatisfied with lack of reason for this, but Side A... this is how it's done for many ICOs, and yes of course it will mean you are unhappy but that is it. Side B, maybe got confused and did not understand that Side A just wants to have more transparency. Simple answer: there is not 100% transparency in any ICO so far.

Am I correct?

[akhavr]

Dear CYPHER,

I'd urge you to stay vigilant and go, reread the web site (to see the project participants) and the whitepaper (to check what blockchain dmarket will operate).

If you do this, you'll quickly find who am I.  

Also you'll find that DMarket won't operate on Ethereum.  Therefore any ERC20 token, be it released, would be just a placeholder for a real, operational DMarket Token.  

ERC20 token won't give investor any more "transparency" or "protection" than a number in a centralized database.  The only benefit of ERC20 token would be the ability to transact them.

Once again, don't trust me - go check the site  and the WP yourself.  Be vigilant

Edit: my opinions are just my own and nobody's else.

[waynechong1995]

Impressive ICO numbers, looking forward in this project.

[vitocorp]

A blockchain project aiming to create a marketplace for virtual gaming items has raised more than $10 million in an initial coin offering (ICO).

The ICO for DMarket, which began last week, collected 26,935 ETH – an amount worth roughly $8.9 million at current prices – as well as 365 BTC, valued at approximately $1.5 million. And though DMarket's website doesn't list the number of contributors, it states that the sale drew 4,827 transactions over the several-day period.

https://www.coindesk.com/10-4-million-game-item-exchange-dmarket-raises-new-funds-ico/

[D_market]

A blockchain project aiming to create a marketplace for virtual gaming items has raised more than $10 million in an initial coin offering (ICO).

The ICO for DMarket, which began last week, collected 26,935 ETH – an amount worth roughly $8.9 million at current prices – as well as 365 BTC, valued at approximately $1.5 million. And though DMarket's website doesn't list the number of contributors, it states that the sale drew 4,827 transactions over the several-day period.

https://www.coindesk.com/10-4-million-game-item-exchange-dmarket-raises-new-funds-ico/

Hi! We are very impressed with the enthusiasm of our investors. On our website, you can see that we had 4 890 transactions. Together, we made the future of an in-game economy closer!

[dewanaga]

Hi where can i see bounty project dmarket? Am I late for the bounty program? 
Please give me information thanks

[D_market]

Hi where can i see bounty project dmarket? Am I late for the bounty program? 
Please give me information thanks

Hi!
We don't have any bounty campaign. You can take part in the second phase of the token sale in November.

[Jayjay04]

HOW can I verify my transaction and number of coins assigned to my ETH address ?
I haven't created an account on the website before contributing.

[D_market]

HOW can I verify my transaction and number of coins assigned to my ETH address ?
I haven't created an account on the website before contributing.

Hi!
To check the availability of tokens when paying for ETH, you need:
1. Register at dmarket.io
2. In your account, insert your ETH wallet into the Master Wallet field, with which tokens were sent
The number of purchased tokens is displayed in the personal account.

[Jayjay04]

HOW can I verify my transaction and number of coins assigned to my ETH address ?
I haven't created an account on the website before contributing.

Hi!
To check the availability of tokens when paying for ETH, you need:
1. Register at dmarket.io
2. In your account, insert your ETH wallet into the Master Wallet field, with which tokens were sent
The number of purchased tokens is displayed in the personal account.

Thx it worked perflectly !

[mickaelsilver10]

HOW can I verify my transaction and number of coins assigned to my ETH address ?
I haven't created an account on the website before contributing.

Hi!
To check the availability of tokens when paying for ETH, you need:
1. Register at dmarket.io
2. In your account, insert your ETH wallet into the Master Wallet field, with which tokens were sent
The number of purchased tokens is displayed in the personal account.

Thank you very much for the precision, it works very well !!

I strongly believe in this very promising project

[leea-1334]

A blockchain project aiming to create a marketplace for virtual gaming items has raised more than $10 million in an initial coin offering (ICO).

The ICO for DMarket, which began last week, collected 26,935 ETH – an amount worth roughly $8.9 million at current prices – as well as 365 BTC, valued at approximately $1.5 million. And though DMarket's website doesn't list the number of contributors, it states that the sale drew 4,827 transactions over the several-day period.

https://www.coindesk.com/10-4-million-game-item-exchange-dmarket-raises-new-funds-ico/

Hi! We are very impressed with the enthusiasm of our investors. On our website, you can see that we had 4 890 transactions. Together, we made the future of an in-game economy closer!

Well done, DMarket! Will this impressive figure affect how the second round of crowdfunding will take place three months from now? I myself am gearing up for a possible significant contribution to the November round. Unless tokens hit the exchange market and I am able to swipe some from there from the early sellers.

[first.down]

How do you compare Dmarket project to Enjin coin project?

[D_market]

How do you compare Dmarket project to Enjin coin project?

Hi!

DMarket is the first decentralized marketplace, which connects different game platforms into one ecosystem and provides a way to trade in-game items with a one-click sale. Moreover, DMarket creates real value for virtual content, so the players would be able to exchange virtual items to real goods. We don't try to create an economy where it's not needed, we create a new part of a world's economy. That are the main reasons which differ us from the others.