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October 11, 2017, 05:07:38 PM
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http://amlbitcoin.com/ is down.

The is no NAC Foundation registered at 7495 W Azure Dr, Las Vegas, NV 89130 (address that was visible on http://amlbitcoin.com before it was shut down).
Another NAC Foundation (with "the same" manager MARCUS ANDRADE ??) is registered in a family house in FERNLEY, NV 89408.

http://nvsos.gov/sos/

1) The amlbitcoin.com is so far so good, but I do admit that sometime it takes a while to load it. It is made with wordpress. Probably the high traffic has slowed down its loading.

2) You could find NAC Foundation, LLC, by visiting the following URL.
http://nvsos.gov/SOSEntitySearch/corpsearch.aspx?st=c&ss=NAC
The "FERNLEY, NV 89408" is the address belonging to our registered Agent.

I've checked in detail all those NAC related records you provided, but couldn't find your Entity,  if it is not NV20141104310 as you say. Could you please tell us which NV Business ID exactly it is? Thank you.

Entity Name    NV Business ID    Status    Type
NAC CORPORATION   NV19871033653   Dissolved   Domestic Corporation
NAC CORPORATION   NV20011355584   Merge Dissolved   Domestic Corporation
NAC (USA) INC.   NV20071663415   Permanently Revoked   Domestic Corporation
NAC CAPITAL, LLC   NV20081594159   Active   Domestic Limited-Liability Company
NAC CONSTRUCTION COMPANY   NV20021481703   Dissolved   Domestic Corporation
NAC DEVELOPMENT COMPANY   NV20021481719   Active   Domestic Corporation
NAC ENTERPRISES LLC   NV19981052513   Dissolved   Domestic Limited-Liability Company
NAC ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED, LLC   NV20091325700   Permanently Revoked   Domestic Limited-Liability Company
NAC FOUNDATION, LLC   NV20141104310   Active   Domestic Limited-Liability Company
NAC HOLDINGS, INC.   NV19951057859   Merge Dissolved   Domestic Corporation
NAC INTERNATIONAL, INC.   NV20031525048   Permanently Revoked   Domestic Corporation
NAC INVESTMENT COMPANY   NV19961247883   Dissolved   Domestic Corporation
NAC LAS VEGAS LLC   NV20161609503   Active   Domestic Limited-Liability Company
NAC MARKETING INC.   NV20061174255   Permanently Revoked   Domestic Corporation
NAC MORTGAGE & LOAN COMPANY   NV19971102204   Permanently Revoked   Foreign Corporation
NAC PROPERTIES, INC   NV20151341572   Active   Domestic Corporation
NAC SERVICES, LLC   NV20121273579   Revoked   Domestic Limited-Liability Company
NAC TECHNOLOGY GROUP INC   NV20121542433   Active   Domestic Corporation
NAC'S CORPORATION   NV20031463590   Permanently Revoked   Domestic Close Corporation

It is:
NAC FOUNDATION, LLC   NV20141104310   Active   Domestic Limited-Liability Company

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October 11, 2017, 06:52:44 PM
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Interesting project, I read the whitepaper but I have some questions (which to my surprise haven’t been asked already);

1. 2.3 Identity Verification: The Digital Identity Trust Network (DTN)

DTN appears to be a separate entity to the NAC foundation and processes the verification of users (through government issued documents and biometric means) needed to get access to the AML blockchain.

Could you please elaborate about this; how can I trust DTN? Is there any regulatory oversight on this company? Is it being audited? Do they store all the ID data on their own servers and on the NAC servers (and how do they communicate)? And how are the costs of verifying AML users being covered?

2.3.2 Explains how users can identify; 'they select their Country of residence, and State or Province'.
How do I know my country is on that list? If not I cannot convert AML Token to AML Bitcoin.


2. 3.6.4  Locking the AML BitCoin Accounts of Suspected Criminals

Reading this part, it seems to enter quite a grey area, with has 2 downsides;
I. there seems to be a lot of non-automated work associated with it, do you plan on having a whole team on this? And how do you plan on covering the ongoing costs associated with it?
II. If NAC may deem something suspicious, can they lock my funds? Or is it only 'Upon a legitimate request from a governmental body'?
P.S. I'm not talking about 3.5 (because I understand being on some terrorist list, NAC will lock the account but that is no grey area).

3. 6.2 Limitations of Bitcoin and Other Cryptocurrencies

In this part you cover 3 subjects of limitations (on which I agree), but on only one (6.2.3. Pseudonymous/Anonymous Property of Cryptocurrency and Illegal Activities) seems AML bitcoin to serve a solution, do I read that right?

4. Although not in the whitepaper, but it was stated (in the FAQ I believe) that all the centralized (ID) information is not stored on front-end servers of NAC, which is nice, but is of course not a guarantee for anything.
How do I know this information is really stored securely, not only in a technical sense, but also in procedural form (which employees have access under what conditions, etc.); are you audited by an external company?

5. Having 50 million of AML bitcoin to burn trough will ensure NAC not going broke soon, but how are you planning long term to fund yourself?

6. Because every AML Bitcoin is stored in multi sign addresses (me and NAC having the keys), it is absolutley vital NAC will keep functioning, what provisions are made to that end? Things like disagreements/infighting (everybody leaving NAC) or the whole NAC team is involved in a plane crash or something..


Let me try to address your concerns briefly here. Otherwise, it will be an extremely lengthy post.

1. 2.3 Identity Verification: The Digital Identity Trust Network (DTN)
DTN appears to be a separate entity to the NAC foundation and processes the verification of users (through government issued documents and biometric means) needed to get access to the AML blockchain.
Could you please elaborate about this; how can I trust DTN? Is there any regulatory oversight on this company? Is it being audited? Do they store all the ID data on their own servers and on the NAC servers (and how do they communicate)? And how are the costs of verifying AML users being covered?
Brief Answer: The DTN involves a third-part company, who has experience and expertise to verify the submitted identity proof document. The third-party company’s method should have been audited. Most data are stored on the NAC servers (not front-end servers). All personal information is encrypted before storage in our servers. Some data will be stored using the IPFS protocol. For communication between Internet interfaces for ID data submission and the 3rd-party ID verification platform, network traffic encryption will be involved. We will follow the ISO/IEC 29100:2011 standards (Information technology - Security techniques - Privacy framework), and the system will be subjected to third-party accreditation. Some of the costs of verifying AML users are from the ICO. Some of the costs are covered by the profits from our business. Please refer to the white paper for the basic ideas about our business plan.

2.3.2 Explains how users can identify; 'they select their Country of residence, and State or Province'.
How do I know my country is on that list? If not I cannot convert AML Token to AML Bitcoin.
Brief Answer: (1) If you are a resident/citizen in a country in the OFAC sanctioned country list, you cannot convert AML Tokens to AML BitCoins. (2) If you are staying in a country in the OFAC sanctioned country list, you cannot convert AML Tokens to AML BitCoins. Please refer to our Terms and Conditions for more details. https://amltoken.com/aml-sale-terms-and-conditions/

2. 3.6.4  Locking the AML BitCoin Accounts of Suspected Criminals
Reading this part, it seems to enter quite a grey area, with has 2 downsides;
I. there seems to be a lot of non-automated work associated with it, do you plan on having a whole team on this? And how do you plan on covering the ongoing costs associated with it?
Brief Answer: This is a very good question. We have thought of a solution on covering the ongoing costs associated with it. Unfortunately, owing to the trade secret, I could not disclose detailed information to you here. I hope you could understand. However, you can think in way that NAC Foundation will develop its business to generate profits, and the ongoing costs will be covered by the profits of our business. You could refer to our whitepaper for the basic ideas of our business plan.  

II. If NAC may deem something suspicious, can they lock my funds? Or is it only 'Upon a legitimate request from a governmental body'?
P.S. I'm not talking about 3.5 (because I understand being on some terrorist list, NAC will lock the account but that is no grey area).
Brief Answer: For suspicious transactions, we are not planning to lock those funds. However, we are planning to report those suspicious activities to the related government agencies, e.g. FinCEN in United States. We will only lock those funds upon a legitimate request from a governmental body.    

3. 6.2 Limitations of Bitcoin and Other Cryptocurrencies
In this part you cover 3 subjects of limitations (on which I agree), but on only one (6.2.3. Pseudonymous/Anonymous Property of Cryptocurrency and Illegal Activities) seems AML bitcoin to serve a solution, do I read that right?
Brief Answer: I hope that I understand your question correctly. If not, please correct me. AML BitCoin is designed to serve as a solution for the illegal activities related to the pseudonymous/anonymous property of cryptocurrency.

4. Although not in the whitepaper, but it was stated (in the FAQ I believe) that all the centralized (ID) information is not stored on front-end servers of NAC, which is nice, but is of course not a guarantee for anything.
How do I know this information is really stored securely, not only in a technical sense, but also in procedural form (which employees have access under what conditions, etc.); are you audited by an external company?
Brief Answer: Correct. Centralized (ID) information will not be stored on front-end servers of NAC. We will follow the ISO/IEC 29100:2011 standards (Information technology - Security techniques - Privacy framework), and the system will be subjected to third-party accreditation.  

5. Having 50 million of AML bitcoin to burn trough will ensure NAC not going broke soon, but how are you planning long term to fund yourself?
Brief answer: We are well aware of the need of long term fund to keep the AML BitCoin running. Please refer to whitepaper for the basic ideas of our business plan. AML BitCoin’s operation will be supported by the profits generated from our business.  

6. Because every AML Bitcoin is stored in multi sign addresses (me and NAC having the keys), it is absolutley vital NAC will keep functioning, what provisions are made to that end? Things like disagreements/infighting (everybody leaving NAC) or the whole NAC team is involved in a plane crash or something..
Brief answer:  The key answer for your question is the “provision”, that NAC is going to make at the end. We have a plan to build one or more valuable assets as the provision to ensure there will be sufficient fund that supports the continuous operation of the AML BitCoin system. As such information is trade-secret, I could not disclose in details here. Moreover, here we have to emphasize that the market price of the AML BitCoin must not be linked to those provisions, and AML BitCoin holders should not expect that the acquisition of AML BitCoin will result in profit because of those provisions. The price of AML BitCoin should be mainly dictated by the market force. This is to ensure that AML BitCoin is not considered as a security.  

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October 12, 2017, 02:41:46 AM
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Still no ticker.

Still no answers to my questions #117.

Please find our brief answers at #202
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2056317.msg22872835#msg22872835

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October 12, 2017, 03:39:59 AM
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Since yesterday, several people/photos were removed from https://amltoken.com/.

Some links to Linkedin profiles lead to people with different photos, different skill sets and not matching profile history.

Neha Verma: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nehadverma/
Jatin Babbar: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jatin-babbar-8a831930/

Thank you very much for picking out those stupid mistakes for us. One of our developers used the wrong links.
Now we have provided back the correct links.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/neha-verma-34969638/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jatin-babbar-47a02617/

Many thanks again.

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October 12, 2017, 06:23:21 AM
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Released video presentations:

Crypto Coin Show AMLBitCoin ICO - AML Compliant Cryptocurrency
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nw1G7LqqiBg

Crypto Coin Show AMLBitCoin - Regulatory Compliant Cryptocurrency - FinTech News Network
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2zXjVS4PpU

We also have a 10 second teaser if someone likes to show it on their site or to share in posts:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUiDcaoJIok
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October 12, 2017, 06:31:18 AM
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when will we know how many token are sold today?
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October 12, 2017, 10:44:14 AM
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when will we know how many token are sold today?

Sorry but at this time the meter will not return on the website.
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October 13, 2017, 08:33:43 AM
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IS THE PROJECTED TOKEN SALE TIME FROM OCT6 - NOV 15 JUST FOR PHASE 1
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October 13, 2017, 08:46:57 AM
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IS THE PROJECTED TOKEN SALE TIME FROM OCT6 - NOV 15 JUST FOR PHASE 1

Yes, but the date is not set in stone as there are other aspects to think of.

(results, Escrow, exchange listings, partners etc.)
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October 13, 2017, 10:24:27 AM
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so just let's put us in peace and wait .. I really believed in this project the time will tell me if i'm right .. i just hope the token will be distributed smoothly as soon as the NAC decides to do
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October 13, 2017, 11:32:24 AM
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so just let's put us in peace and wait .. I really believed in this project the time will tell me if i'm right .. i just hope the token will be distributed smoothly as soon as the NAC decides to do
yes I agree Jay,with first mover advantage and influential team members to push the idea politically this project could take off in a big way if use by a government as there currency,there had been much talk about this and AML Bitcoin seem to have come up with a solution to problems that’s currently stopping adoption at moment,we have Ripple for cross border settlements using XRP so now is the time to push a digital currency for every day use that’s accepted by governments and meets there AML requirements,I can’t see there been much support from normal bitcoin/altcoin investors since they like privacy and anonymise payment solutions infact I prefer that too and no one wants to part with Bitcoin at moment with upcoming fork for the scam which is Bitcoin Gold  but I can see for adoption for mainstream usage changes will need to be made and soon new government legislation will make it difficult for our popular digital currency’s to be used for anything other than trading and Darknet payment,the future is compliance and this project is ahead of the game.
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October 13, 2017, 08:44:19 PM
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Nicely put. The Thai and Japanese governments are trying to eliminate paper and move to pure digital currencies. This could help the US move in the same direction. 

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October 13, 2017, 09:31:17 PM
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Thanks @Scitoshi for (finally) answering my questions!
I won't burden you with more (follow up questions).

so just let's put us in peace and wait .. I really believed in this project the time will tell me if i'm right .. i just hope the token will be distributed smoothly as soon as the NAC decides to do
yes I agree Jay,with first mover advantage and influential team members to push the idea politically this project could take off in a big way if use by a government as there currency,there had been much talk about this and AML Bitcoin seem to have come up with a solution to problems that’s currently stopping adoption at moment,we have Ripple for cross border settlements using XRP so now is the time to push a digital currency for every day use that’s accepted by governments and meets there AML requirements,I can’t see there been much support from normal bitcoin/altcoin investors since they like privacy and anonymise payment solutions infact I prefer that too and no one wants to part with Bitcoin at moment with upcoming fork for the scam which is Bitcoin Gold  but I can see for adoption for mainstream usage changes will need to be made and soon new government legislation will make it difficult for our popular digital currency’s to be used for anything other than trading and Darknet payment,the future is compliance and this project is ahead of the game.

Could be, but they will probably come with their own crypto (backed 1-1 with their national currrency) on which they have full control.
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October 13, 2017, 09:55:29 PM
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AML BitCoin Token - Upgrading AML Token Wallet from v1 to v1.1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-a8R1NBUco

Also for technical minded people, added links to patent documents on the OP, right above press links.

And some good news for people wishing to earn referral commision. We are currently setting up a program so you can promote your referral link or code.
Perhaps some people like to prepare a campaign. Check back for more info.
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October 14, 2017, 07:21:40 AM
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Where is the counter? How many AML tokens are missing to finish the Public Sale Phase 1?


I'm sorry I'm using a translator maybe I'm not well understood. I the site, can not see how many tokens were sold, in the past I could see it. Is it possible to solve the problem? It's important to know how the Ico is going Smiley)

Thank you for your question.

The counter at the ICO webpage is being reconciled and also as we sort out some of the technical issues with the site.
It will be back very soon. Hopefully within 24 hours.
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October 14, 2017, 08:29:46 PM
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IS THERE ANY TRUTH THAT YOUR BUY IS CAPPED AT $5000?.
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October 14, 2017, 10:17:05 PM
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IS THERE ANY TRUTH THAT YOUR BUY IS CAPPED AT $5000?.
yes I came across this problem but you can make as many buys as you want
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October 16, 2017, 06:14:24 PM
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I made a small token purchase on the 9th of October to see if I received any confirmation email or tokens before I committed to a larger purchase and I have yet to receive anything. It's been a week now and the web site says that I should receive confirmation within 12 hours. The currency that I sent has not been returned to my account so when will I receive confirmation?
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October 16, 2017, 07:10:41 PM
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I made a small token purchase on the 9th of October to see if I received any confirmation email or tokens before I committed to a larger purchase and I have yet to receive anything. It's been a week now and the web site says that I should receive confirmation within 12 hours. The currency that I sent has not been returned to my account so when will I receive confirmation?

Sorry, I'm using a translator, I'm Italian. Tokens will be distributed in the wallet at the end of the ico. I received confirmation emails for the two purchases made. You should get confirmation from shapeshift if you have paid with altcoin and confirms in your email from amlbitcoin@tokenlot.com in the subject of the email you have written the confirmation id number.
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October 16, 2017, 07:28:19 PM
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I made a small token purchase on the 9th of October to see if I received any confirmation email or tokens before I committed to a larger purchase and I have yet to receive anything. It's been a week now and the web site says that I should receive confirmation within 12 hours. The currency that I sent has not been returned to my account so when will I receive confirmation?

Sorry, I'm using a translator, I'm Italian. Tokens will be distributed in the wallet at the end of the ico. I received confirmation emails for the two purchases made. You should get confirmation from shapeshift if you have paid with altcoin and confirms in your email from amlbitcoin@tokenlot.com in the subject of the email you have written the confirmation id number.

I did not pay through shapeshift, I paid with ETH using the basic payment system that the site provided. I used a valid email and, I received no confirmation, the ETH I paid has not been returned to my account.
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