[VMC] Official Virtual Mining Corporation Discussion

[magzy]

http://www.coindesk.com/mining-hardware-companies-miners-roundup/

Lol, Ken rips off a guy writing for coindesk.  A lifetime of scamming and he *still* can't do it right.

The cheque was sent back with an accompanying letter clearly stating the correct spelling of the recipient’s name, just to be sure.

However, mid-March a new cheque arrived containing the same misspelling and, this time, it wasn’t signed either. At this point I started to wonder whether these errors were being done on purpose to delay the refund.

Declining my request to have the funds wired to my bank account instead, VMC will now be sending a third cheque (after receiving the unsigned one back from me).

So, maybe with some luck, some four to five months after applying for a refund, I will actually get my money back.

At least he got an actual cheque - I'm still waiting for mine - 4 months after asking for it.

[rogerli9]

Hello Bitcoin miners

I have decided to stop asking for a refund as most likely they will give it, but it will take them ages. So i have decided to order these with the 9000 dollar pre order that i gave them in november. Once i get them i will post pictures of them working and them hashing and i can try and get this company some better reputation. (hoping here)

[magzy]

Having filed a complaint a while back with the Attorney General I got this letter in the mail today.

(all I want is my refund from Bullshit artist Kenneth Slaughter)

[kslaughter]

FAST-HASH ONE PROSPECTOR SPECIAL

$1,499 On the first unit ordered, Limit of 5 orders per customer.

24 Hour Special on our Fast-Hash One Prospector using this voucher code: Q3W984BM

Limited To The First 50 units Sold.

[magzy]

FAST-HASH ONE PROSPECTOR SPECIAL

$1,499 On the first unit ordered, Limit of 5 orders per customer.

24 Hour Special on our Fast-Hash One Prospector using this voucher code: Q3W984BM

Limited To The First 50 units Sold.

when are these being shipped out the door?

can I use the money you owe me towards this deal?

[SebastianJu]

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Of course it is, this is our development board from hashfast.  We are in the process of tooling our production line to build 5,000 boards in April.

So wait, you post a pic of a dev board as proof of the product you claim to be shipping *now*?
Unless you're shipping dev boards, I'd say that's fucking sleazy.

How about a pic of the stuff you claim to be shipping?

The pictures show our stock of boards and the product ready to be shipped.

No.  Your pictures show what you have admitted is a dev board (not one of the board you claim to be shipping), cardboard boxes, anti-static bags, coolers (which have nothing to do with the orders.  You are not including a cooling solution AFAIK, correct me if I'm mistaken), and empty racks (also not being shipped, I presume).  There is not a single picture of the product ready to be shipped.

Didnt Ken claim that the first image are the boards? Inside the anti-static bags?

Anyway... in some days we will see if customers got something.

[NotLambchop]

@SebastianJu yeah, he did.  And his pictures showed the plastic bags.  What's inside is anyone's guess.  There's a weird English expression for that -- "pig in a poke." <==click

[magzy]

Kenneth, where our our refunds you untrustworthy piece of s**t??

I have been waiting 4 months and have asked you for it about 30 times now.

that is all

[magzy]

@SebastianJu yeah, he did.  And his pictures showed the plastic bags.  What's inside is anyone's guess.  There's a weird English expression for that -- "pig in a poke." <==click

from wikipedia:

The idioms "miner from ken" and "sell a miner" (or buy a miner) refer to a confidence trick originating in the Late Middle Ages, when miners were scarce, but catboards and dogchips (minerpies) were not.[1][2][3] The idiom "miner from ken" can also simply refer to someone buying a non existent miner because he or she did not carefully check what was in the bag.[4]

[SebastianJu]

Only the last bags give a small hint whats inside. When seeing the sample board im not sure what we see there. Maybe the sample board would look that way when its turned 180°? But from the first look the insight of the bags look a bit different.

[NotLambchop]

@Sebastian yeah, it's "upside-down," and ken has explicitly stated that it's a dev board.  If you look either in this or the "UNmoderated" thread, MrTeal points out that the boards in the bags are probably a different revision (and he posted a pic of that rev.)

[kslaughter]

@Sebastian yeah, it's "upside-down," and ken has explicitly stated that it's a dev board.  If you look either in this or the "UNmoderated" thread, MrTeal points out that the boards in the bags are probably a different revision (and he posted a pic of that rev.)

Yes, this is the board that we are building 5,000 in April.

[magzy]

@Sebastian yeah, it's "upside-down," and ken has explicitly stated that it's a dev board.  If you look either in this or the "UNmoderated" thread, MrTeal points out that the boards in the bags are probably a different revision (and he posted a pic of that rev.)

Yes, this is the board that we are building 5,000 in April.

Is that before or after you intend to process all long overdue refunds?

[NotLambchop]

@Sebastian yeah, it's "upside-down," and ken has explicitly stated that it's a dev board.  If you look either in this or the "UNmoderated" thread, MrTeal points out that the boards in the bags are probably a different revision (and he posted a pic of that rev.)

Yes, this is the board that we are building 5,000 in April.

Bulshit plastered over with more bullshit.  You were asked for photos of products being shipped now.  You posted a pic of a dev board which you claim you'll be making in April (it's April already, BTW).

Buying popcorn in bulk -- can't wait for Bargraphics' objective review.  He's "invested" up to the gills in you, ought to be pretty lulzy.

Edit:  Crop from the pic posted by Bargraphics.  Ken is reselling HashFast boards -- the "reference design" story is just that, a story.  These boards were made by HashFast, on their production line.  Unless the revision stickies are integral to design.



*Ken, you can pick those off with your fingernail, or just plaster over them with "Prospector" stickies for the Pro look.
>pro
>spector
>pro

HashFast FastHash

[Bargraphics]

Alright Guys,

I received my two units (Ordered another one because of the voucher)

I thought these units were going to come with the USB Connector but they didn't so I have to wait another day to get them up and running.

By the way for anyone thinking about ordering them, you will need the following:

Port USB A Female Slot Plate Adapter (USBPLATE) - This comes with two (for two units)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000511LW/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

C&E 6-Feet USB 2.0 A Male to A Male Cable - You don't NEED 6 Ft but it was like $1.00 more for an extra 3 Ft.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CJRV3CG/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


Here are some pictures of the units that I have right now (To show proof of delivery)
http://imgur.com/a/Zqh6Q

I know there will still be some skeptics out there if I actually received these or not so let me know what to do that will be considered "proof" to you.


Depending on when Amazon delivers the USB cables tomorrow, I'll have them up and running hopefully!

Edit: I've been told for the USB to 5-Pin - The Red wire needs to go on Pin 1 (There's a little "1" next to it on the board) else it can cause burnouts if the header is installed backwards.

[kslaughter]

@Sebastian yeah, it's "upside-down," and ken has explicitly stated that it's a dev board.  If you look either in this or the "UNmoderated" thread, MrTeal points out that the boards in the bags are probably a different revision (and he posted a pic of that rev.)

Yes, this is the board that we are building 5,000 in April.

Bulshit plastered over with more bullshit.  You were asked for photos of products being shipped now.  You posted a pic of a dev board which you claim you'll be making in April (it's April already, BTW).

Buying popcorn in bulk -- can't wait for Bargraphics' objective review.  He's "invested" up to the gills in you, ought to be pretty lulzy.

Edit:  Crop from the pic posted by Bargraphics.  Ken is reselling HashFast boards -- the "reference design" story is just that, a story.  These boards were made by HashFast, on their production line.  Unless the revision stickies are integral to design.



*Ken, you can pick those off with your fingernail, or just plaster over them with "Prospector" stickies for the Pro look.
>pro
>spector
>pro

HashFast FastHash

We manufactured these boards, we purchased the the parts, we purchased the PCB, and we paid the CM to assemble the boards.

We have 3 different CM's working on this project at the current time.  One of which is the same CM Hashfast uses.

[Biffa]

Ken whats the distance between the cooler mounting holes is it 75mm as per 1155/1156 socket mounting?

[NotLambchop]

You really are a slime.  Nice wording.  Sorta like claiming you're shipping product and shipping a single sliderail.

Does that mean that all the boards you currently have/are selling were made by hashfast?

No, these boards were manufactured by us, using the reference design by hashfast.  This is standard procedure in the semiconductor business, AMD had done this for years.

A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic.

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Are they HashFasts stickies? Last I heard HashFast was "renting out" their fabricator for others to use as long as they purchased the components. They could just be doing what they've always done.
...

So wait, you're saying that HashFast boards, made on HashFast production line, are really *not* HashFast boards?  Is this one of those clever ploy like ActM "buying" boards from VMC?

"We're not selling boards -- we're selling the parts, the design, and the production line"?  Amazing.

I made my own Bimmer -- I bought the engine and the chassis, and had them assembled at the BMW factory.  I'm a major car manufacturer.

P.S:  You realize the reason Ken is getting a deal on those boards, right?  Those boards would otherwise go to HashFast customers who have already paid for them.

[Anddos]

http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMining/comments/220vrv/virtualmining_co_delivers_3gh/

[klondike_bar]

@Sebastian yeah, it's "upside-down," and ken has explicitly stated that it's a dev board.  If you look either in this or the "UNmoderated" thread, MrTeal points out that the boards in the bags are probably a different revision (and he posted a pic of that rev.)

Yes, this is the board that we are building 5,000 in April.

Bulshit plastered over with more bullshit.  You were asked for photos of products being shipped now.  You posted a pic of a dev board which you claim you'll be making in April (it's April already, BTW).

Buying popcorn in bulk -- can't wait for Bargraphics' objective review.  He's "invested" up to the gills in you, ought to be pretty lulzy.

Edit:  Crop from the pic posted by Bargraphics.  Ken is reselling HashFast boards -- the "reference design" story is just that, a story.  These boards were made by HashFast, on their production line.  Unless the revision stickies are integral to design.



*Ken, you can pick those off with your fingernail, or just plaster over them with "Prospector" stickies for the Pro look.
>pro
>spector
>pro

HashFast FastHash

We manufactured these boards, we purchased the the parts, we purchased the PCB, and we paid the CM to assemble the boards.

We have 3 different CM's working on this project at the current time.  One of which is the same CM Hashfast uses.

You bought pre-fabricated PCB (presumably from hashfast since it has their stickers), hashfast chips, and used a hashfast assembly house.  Did you source the parts yourself, or does hashfast also sell the parts seperately?

This is my legitimate question, since it went unclear for weeks what type of chip you would use and it was hashfast. Now, it almost seems like the boards were purchased from hashfast as well, rather than your own PCB fabrication with Hashfast design files as you previously implied. Whats the production cost per board?