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How about we just say, 'don't bet what you're not willing to lose', rather than bring about strategies? House edge is pretty obvious for gamblers, but this case about ten losses streak (same color) and got busted has nothing to do with HE. Right... house edge was an aside - a secondary point, to note how ignorant gamblers are of the games and RTP. If gamblers expect long alternating black/red, Martingale is good; conversely, if they expect long streak black/red, Paroli is better. If they don't want to risk anything, don't play. That's the whole point: rather than tell them a strategy is better because of x or y, you go down a level and bring about the fundamental concept: that there is always a possibility of a loss, and that strategies are algorithms that are still limited to the mechanics of the game.
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Can you add the older Slot, " It Came From Venus" from the game developer Betsoft Gaming please, because I see you have added the newer "Back to Venus" game, but it is not as good as the first game. (imho) ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Also ...are you experiencing Denial of Service issues lately? The "chat" feature was down for almost a day and the site have been lagging a lot these last couple of days?
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do you plan to add more disciplines ?
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House edge is pretty obvious for gamblers, but this case about ten losses streak (same color) and got busted has nothing to do with HE. He would still get busted even if there was zero HE (let's say bet landed on green not counted/void) because he used Martingale.
If gamblers expect long alternating black/red, Martingale is good; conversely, if they expect long streak black/red, Paroli is better. If they don't want to risk anything, don't play.
Wrong. House edge matters in literally every single bet. For example, if you placed a bet on Dice using a x2 multiplier, the house edge cuts your winning percentile from 50% to a lower figure thus affecting the outcome. Also, using progression strategies after certain patterns is basically gamblers fallacy. The bets are completely independent of each other which is why none of these strategies help in the long term.
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Do we really need to have 10+ post on the forum? before we are able to participate on that giveaway I'm kinda interested to it but i don't have time posting so much.
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Can you add the older Slot, " It Came From Venus" from the game developer Betsoft Gaming please, because I see you have added the newer "Back to Venus" game, but it is not as good as the first game. (imho) ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Wow, that's a 2012 game and still uses flash player. Yeah, the old game is more interactive than the newer Back to Venus, but the graphic is still low-res. Anyway, a taste is a taste (said Ivan) ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Wrong
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Do we really need to have 10+ post on the forum? before we are able to participate on that giveaway I'm kinda interested to it but i don't have time posting so much.Really? 10 posts is too much for you? You can do post like twice a day for 5 days, or once a day for 10 days so you can always participate on the next challenge. I'm sure it is not that hard to get 10 posts, you have proven yourself that you can make few posts in a day in this forum. So saying 10 posts is too much and you have no time to do it is not making any senses at all. One more thing, if you are interested in something then you should give an effort for it especially the first requirement is not about money.
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August 27, 2020, 05:48:41 PM |
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-snip
Do we really need to have 10+ post on the forum? before we are able to participate on that giveaway I'm kinda interested to it but i don't have time posting so much.Really? 10 posts is too much for you? You can do post like twice a day for 5 days, or once a day for 10 days so you can always participate on the next challenge. I'm sure it is not that hard to get 10 posts, you have proven yourself that you can make few posts in a day in this forum. So saying 10 posts is too much and you have no time to do it is not making any senses at all. One more thing, if you are interested in something then you should give an effort for it especially the first requirement is not about money. Yeah you are right I still have 3 days. While making an auto bet I think I should be posting on their forum at the same time.
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Deposit some amount to enjoy some games and ended up playing dice pretty much good on my first day. There's are lot of games that I needed to try by the way is your withdrawal fee really fixed to 0.0005 btc? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FPxqrSaQm.png&t=665&c=N9c1CcmdGWR6Bw)
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Just go to my ignore list, and PM me if you have learned your mistake.
You are weird. Anyone with a half decent brain knows that progression strategies like Martingale, Paroli etc don't work in the long term and depending on patterns in gambling is utter stupidity, but I guess you lack that. Deposit some amount to enjoy some games and ended up playing dice pretty much good on my first day. There's are lot of games that I needed to try by the way is your withdrawal fee really fixed to 0.0005 btc?
Withdrawal fee is 0.00005BTC with 4 zeros and it is fixed currently. It is pretty low if you think about it.
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Wrong. House edge matters in literally every single bet. For example, if you placed a bet on Dice using a x2 multiplier, the house edge cuts your winning percentile from 50% to a lower figure thus affecting the outcome.
It's only a small percentage though while it could affect the outcome of your bets it won't matter that much unless you're going to make a lot of bets. Deisik had a thread about this where he posted his profit record from one of his sessions and the house edge started kicking in after he reached the hundred thousand mark.
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Withdrawal fee is 0.00005BTC with 4 zeros and it is fixed currently. It is pretty low if you think about it.
How it is pretty low, I could not understand. I have seen lower fees than this on other gambling site and also on exchanger. Fees is enough high as I think. According to current btc price it is now about 5.631$.
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How it is pretty low, I could not understand. I have seen lower fees than this on other gambling site and also on exchanger. Fees is enough high as I think. According to current btc price it is now about 5.631$.
You missed one zero their withdrawal fee is 5000 satoshis and he's not wrong it's one of the lowest fees you'll see as most of the gambling sites charges .0001/10k satoshis sometimes even more now that the network is always filled with at least 10-20 thousand transactions.
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August 27, 2020, 09:57:12 PM |
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How it is pretty low, I could not understand. I have seen lower fees than this on other gambling site and also on exchanger. Fees is enough high as I think. According to current btc price it is now about 5.631$.
You missed one zero their withdrawal fee is 5000 satoshis and he's not wrong it's one of the lowest fees you'll see as most of the gambling sites charges .0001/10k satoshis sometimes even more now that the network is always filled with at least 10-20 thousand transactions. Oh I saw and calculated from below quote: Deposit some amount to enjoy some games and ended up playing dice pretty much good on my first day. There's are lot of games that I needed to try by the way is your withdrawal fee really fixed to 0.0005 btc?
According to this fees is too high. But if the fees is 0.00005 then it is cheapest fees for now, as almost all the exchangers as well as gambling sites are deducting much more fees than this.
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Indymoney
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August 27, 2020, 10:02:42 PM |
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How it is pretty low, I could not understand. I have seen lower fees than this on other gambling site and also on exchanger. Fees is enough high as I think. According to current btc price it is now about 5.631$.
You missed one zero their withdrawal fee is 5000 satoshis and he's not wrong it's one of the lowest fees you'll see as most of the gambling sites charges .0001/10k satoshis sometimes even more now that the network is always filled with at least 10-20 thousand transactions. Oh I saw and calculated from below quote: Deposit some amount to enjoy some games and ended up playing dice pretty much good on my first day. There's are lot of games that I needed to try by the way is your withdrawal fee really fixed to 0.0005 btc?
According to this fees is too high. But if the fees is 0.00005 then it is cheapest fees for now, as almost all the exchangers as well as gambling sites are deducting much more fees than this. Right now this is serious problem for many members and stake is really doing good for this community and punters hopefully others will also have some good idea from here and they will bring fees less which surely could be affordable for all members and site.
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August 27, 2020, 10:06:17 PM |
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It's only a small percentage though while it could affect the outcome of your bets it won't matter that much unless you're going to make a lot of bets.
Deisik had a thread about this where he posted his profit record from one of his sessions and the house edge started kicking in after he reached the hundred thousand mark.
That small percentage makes a huge difference actually. Whether you place many bets at once or just a couple of bets over a long period, the outcome will be the same. This is why they say that the house always wins in the long term and that is how they keep their business alive. Without the house edge, casinos cannot survive since they would go bankrupt very quickly. According to this fees is too high. But if the fees is 0.00005 then it is cheapest fees for now, as almost all the exchangers as well as gambling sites are deducting much more fees than this.
Pungopete miscalculated by thinking it is 0.0005 BTC when it is actually 0.00005 BTC which is 56 cents currently and that is literally negligible. This is easily one of the biggest plus points related to Stake.
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August 28, 2020, 08:14:23 AM |
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Oh sorry yes I re-checked it and it's just 0.00005 Btc it's really low unlike the others thank you for the clarification I think I was just really excited yesterday on playing games on stake that I missed the one 0.
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August 28, 2020, 08:52:40 AM |
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It's only a small percentage though while it could affect the outcome of your bets it won't matter that much unless you're going to make a lot of bets. As far as anyone is concerned, or rather - as far as anyone should be concerned, if you place a bet while incurring an edge, then you have already lost even before the result has come. From a wave-collapse model, your average expectation is negative! If you were a 5D entity and could collect all the various manifestations of your person after each possible result of any given bet with a house edge, what you would find if you were to sum the winnings from all of those timelines is that it's actually less than what the collective started with, prior to the bet. Volatility is one thing, but never delude yourself when you gamble by saying, "there's a chance I can win." It's true. There's a chance you can win, but the odds are against you. There's also a chance you can win the lottery, or a chance that you can win a jackpot.
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