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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FE3Gd0qs.png&t=665&c=mluDjxkj0TcgDQ) Long requested and finally here! Already seeing Doge highrollers! very nice primedice added doge,I always play with doge. but, I think, the minimum withdrawal of 4000 DOGE is very large ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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October 13, 2018, 11:34:39 PM |
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There are alot of trusted Players that make exchanges between currencies for a very low fee. If Dodge's fee is too high for you you can always exchange to other currency with a lower fee such as Bitcoin that has only a 5k satoshis fee.
Please be adviced to use our Forum for those kind of exchanges where you will find those trusted Members.
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October 14, 2018, 09:33:33 PM |
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There are alot of trusted Players that make exchanges between currencies for a very low fee. If Dodge's fee is too high for you you can always exchange to other currency with a lower fee such as Bitcoin that has only a 5k satoshis fee.
Please be adviced to use our Forum for those kind of exchanges where you will find those trusted Members.
If you are going to endorse this action to trusted players like you are by posting this, you should protect players from being taken by making it clear who these trusted players are. I see a new person every 2-3 days asking to make a trade and they end up sending to a person I have never seen in chat. Its 50/50 if they got scammed. This is the same issue with scripts you guys say not to talk about them in chat but at the same time promote one. Somethings need to be more clear. Just a eye opener that I have been dealt with this way twice now and last time I was right and its documented here as well under NotFresh account.
Nothing else to add, any issues just hit me on pm or talk to me on Primedice.
I'm sure it is solved now. It is always a good thing to have feedback about the users experience in the site, it helps everybody. Came in here with a issue and was ignored besides the account that is clearly a employee of Primedice giving me some kind of odd rub in attempt to silence any critique. Have had more than a handful people contact me saying they can see this and told me its nothing new. I do regret connecting Stunna as the feedback I have gotten has shown he is a solid character. Anyways its a bit of the issue I have with most crypto sites, they are never held to the flame and can dance around most issues. My feeling is that I was not wanted and the site gets what they want. Moving on.
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Stunna (OP)
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October 14, 2018, 11:13:43 PM |
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There are alot of trusted Players that make exchanges between currencies for a very low fee. If Dodge's fee is too high for you you can always exchange to other currency with a lower fee such as Bitcoin that has only a 5k satoshis fee.
Please be adviced to use our Forum for those kind of exchanges where you will find those trusted Members.
If you are going to endorse this action to trusted players like you are by posting this, you should protect players from being taken by making it clear who these trusted players are. I see a new person every 2-3 days asking to make a trade and they end up sending to a person I have never seen in chat. Its 50/50 if they got scammed. This is the same issue with scripts you guys say not to talk about them in chat but at the same time promote one. Somethings need to be more clear. Just a eye opener that I have been dealt with this way twice now and last time I was right and its documented here as well under NotFresh account.
Nothing else to add, any issues just hit me on pm or talk to me on Primedice.
I'm sure it is solved now. It is always a good thing to have feedback about the users experience in the site, it helps everybody. Came in here with a issue and was ignored besides the account that is clearly a employee of Primedice giving me some kind of odd rub in attempt to silence any critique. Have had more than a handful people contact me saying they can see this and told me its nothing new. I do regret connecting Stunna as the feedback I have gotten has shown he is a solid character. Anyways its a bit of the issue I have with most crypto sites, they are never held to the flame and can dance around most issues. My feeling is that I was not wanted and the site gets what they want. Moving on. I don't endorse non-escrow'd trades between players, I recommend people do so at their own risk. We've partnered with a company that does altcoin exchange for a lot of big exchanges and just finished implementing it, will be launching soon.
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October 14, 2018, 11:31:47 PM |
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There are alot of trusted Players that make exchanges between currencies for a very low fee. If Dodge's fee is too high for you you can always exchange to other currency with a lower fee such as Bitcoin that has only a 5k satoshis fee.
Please be adviced to use our Forum for those kind of exchanges where you will find those trusted Members.
If you are going to endorse this action to trusted players like you are by posting this, you should protect players from being taken by making it clear who these trusted players are. I see a new person every 2-3 days asking to make a trade and they end up sending to a person I have never seen in chat. Its 50/50 if they got scammed. This is the same issue with scripts you guys say not to talk about them in chat but at the same time promote one. Somethings need to be more clear. Just a eye opener that I have been dealt with this way twice now and last time I was right and its documented here as well under NotFresh account.
Nothing else to add, any issues just hit me on pm or talk to me on Primedice.
I'm sure it is solved now. It is always a good thing to have feedback about the users experience in the site, it helps everybody. Came in here with a issue and was ignored besides the account that is clearly a employee of Primedice giving me some kind of odd rub in attempt to silence any critique. Have had more than a handful people contact me saying they can see this and told me its nothing new. I do regret connecting Stunna as the feedback I have gotten has shown he is a solid character. Anyways its a bit of the issue I have with most crypto sites, they are never held to the flame and can dance around most issues. My feeling is that I was not wanted and the site gets what they want. Moving on. I'm just a loyal player who has been around from 2014. and I hate when people want to prove something that isn't there. Also, if you don't like how the things are dealt with, why are you still around? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Well, I will leave you with your thoughts.
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October 14, 2018, 11:38:39 PM |
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Just as Stunna said, you can exchange between Players but at your own risk off course...
Still Forum would be a better option if you want to exchange currencies since everyone has a trust level (reputation).
(Till there's a new exchange service on the site)
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October 15, 2018, 02:09:09 AM |
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There are alot of trusted Players that make exchanges between currencies for a very low fee. If Dodge's fee is too high for you you can always exchange to other currency with a lower fee such as Bitcoin that has only a 5k satoshis fee.
Please be adviced to use our Forum for those kind of exchanges where you will find those trusted Members.
If you are going to endorse this action to trusted players like you are by posting this, you should protect players from being taken by making it clear who these trusted players are. I see a new person every 2-3 days asking to make a trade and they end up sending to a person I have never seen in chat. Its 50/50 if they got scammed. This is the same issue with scripts you guys say not to talk about them in chat but at the same time promote one. Somethings need to be more clear. Just a eye opener that I have been dealt with this way twice now and last time I was right and its documented here as well under NotFresh account.
Nothing else to add, any issues just hit me on pm or talk to me on Primedice.
I'm sure it is solved now. It is always a good thing to have feedback about the users experience in the site, it helps everybody. Came in here with a issue and was ignored besides the account that is clearly a employee of Primedice giving me some kind of odd rub in attempt to silence any critique. Have had more than a handful people contact me saying they can see this and told me its nothing new. I do regret connecting Stunna as the feedback I have gotten has shown he is a solid character. Anyways its a bit of the issue I have with most crypto sites, they are never held to the flame and can dance around most issues. My feeling is that I was not wanted and the site gets what they want. Moving on. I'm just a loyal player who has been around from 2014. and I hate when people want to prove something that isn't there. Also, if you don't like how the things are dealt with, why are you still around? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Well, I will leave you with your thoughts. You skirt most points like a good troll. Moving on implies I no longer will be playing there. Still skirting why you talk like a employee? Thats fine anyone reading your history will see where you do it. Was there a company meeting again! Third time you post 20 minutes after Stunna. Oh well, I careless. Site turned to garbage once stake got pushed. Enjoy it, most players can feel it.
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October 15, 2018, 03:18:33 AM |
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There are alot of trusted Players that make exchanges between currencies for a very low fee. If Dodge's fee is too high for you you can always exchange to other currency with a lower fee such as Bitcoin that has only a 5k satoshis fee.
Please be adviced to use our Forum for those kind of exchanges where you will find those trusted Members.
If you are going to endorse this action to trusted players like you are by posting this, you should protect players from being taken by making it clear who these trusted players are. I see a new person every 2-3 days asking to make a trade and they end up sending to a person I have never seen in chat. Its 50/50 if they got scammed. This is the same issue with scripts you guys say not to talk about them in chat but at the same time promote one. Somethings need to be more clear. Just a eye opener that I have been dealt with this way twice now and last time I was right and its documented here as well under NotFresh account.
Nothing else to add, any issues just hit me on pm or talk to me on Primedice.
I'm sure it is solved now. It is always a good thing to have feedback about the users experience in the site, it helps everybody. Came in here with a issue and was ignored besides the account that is clearly a employee of Primedice giving me some kind of odd rub in attempt to silence any critique. Have had more than a handful people contact me saying they can see this and told me its nothing new. I do regret connecting Stunna as the feedback I have gotten has shown he is a solid character. Anyways its a bit of the issue I have with most crypto sites, they are never held to the flame and can dance around most issues. My feeling is that I was not wanted and the site gets what they want. Moving on. I'm just a loyal player who has been around from 2014. and I hate when people want to prove something that isn't there. Also, if you don't like how the things are dealt with, why are you still around? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Well, I will leave you with your thoughts. You skirt most points like a good troll. Moving on implies I no longer will be playing there. Still skirting why you talk like a employee? Thats fine anyone reading your history will see where you do it. Was there a company meeting again! Third time you post 20 minutes after Stunna. Oh well, I careless. Site turned to garbage once stake got pushed. Enjoy it, most players can feel it. Dude, I replied to your post, not his. I understand you, I am the only one who replied to your post and you didn't like the feedback and now I'm just waiting for your post where you claim that I'm Stunna ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) There is no need for a dramatic exit as I'm sure that you'll stay around because there is no place like PD.
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October 15, 2018, 08:20:20 AM |
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Long requested and finally here! Already seeing Doge highrollers!
very nice primedice added doge,I always play with doge. but, I think, the minimum withdrawal of 4000 DOGE is very large ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I agree. DOGE faucet only give 0.1 DOGE and i doubt anyone could make even 1000x profit from faucet only. But 4000 DOGE equal to $20 which is small amount for gambling. Are you saying that you are going to abuse the faucet? Is it not forbidden on such great site like primedice? And even you manage it to get 1000x,I do not think they will let you pass with your withdrawal. Btw this is also wasting time too. 0.1 doger per claim, and min bet is 0.0000001 I never saw that any site will give this lowest min bet for doge, usually it takes like 0.01 or 0.001 doge as their min bet but primedice gives the lowest min bet for doge. I will say it will take forever just to get into 4000 doge withdrawal
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October 16, 2018, 06:16:44 AM |
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Long requested and finally here! Already seeing Doge highrollers!
very nice primedice added doge,I always play with doge. but, I think, the minimum withdrawal of 4000 DOGE is very large ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I agree. DOGE faucet only give 0.1 DOGE and i doubt anyone could make even 1000x profit from faucet only. But 4000 DOGE equal to $20 which is small amount for gambling. Are you saying that you are going to abuse the faucet? Is it not forbidden on such great site like primedice? And even you manage it to get 1000x,I do not think they will let you pass with your withdrawal. Btw this is also wasting time too. 0.1 doger per claim, and min bet is 0.0000001 I never saw that any site will give this lowest min bet for doge, usually it takes like 0.01 or 0.001 doge as their min bet but primedice gives the lowest min bet for doge. I will say it will take forever just to get into 4000 doge withdrawal Isn't there min bet for BTC actually 0 Satoshi's. Basically you can bet 0 and basically if you win you get nothing and if you lose you lose nothing. So the low min bet for Doge isn't too much of a surprise. I remember I had a strategy I tried for fun. Basically rolled like 2 or 3 winners on the 50/50 dice, and then just set my base bet to 0 and rolled again hoping it would be a loss and I would lose nothing and then again I would go and return to the base bet. I think this is actually the reason why they allowed betting on 0 Satoshis, since it really doesn't benefit the site in any way but the roll actually does get processed.
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October 16, 2018, 06:59:45 PM |
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Isn't there min bet for BTC actually 0 Satoshi's. Basically you can bet 0 and basically if you win you get nothing and if you lose you lose nothing.
So the low min bet for Doge isn't too much of a surprise.
I remember I had a strategy I tried for fun. Basically rolled like 2 or 3 winners on the 50/50 dice, and then just set my base bet to 0 and rolled again hoping it would be a loss and I would lose nothing and then again I would go and return to the base bet.
I think this is actually the reason why they allowed betting on 0 Satoshis, since it really doesn't benefit the site in any way but the roll actually does get processed.
Yes that's right, and it is called Pre rolling (Skipping nonces) in gambling terms. Most used as you did when you want to skip some rolls.
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October 17, 2018, 08:52:51 AM |
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Long requested and finally here! Already seeing Doge highrollers!
very nice primedice added doge,I always play with doge. but, I think, the minimum withdrawal of 4000 DOGE is very large ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I agree. DOGE faucet only give 0.1 DOGE and i doubt anyone could make even 1000x profit from faucet only. But 4000 DOGE equal to $20 which is small amount for gambling. Are you saying that you are going to abuse the faucet? Is it not forbidden on such great site like primedice? And even you manage it to get 1000x,I do not think they will let you pass with your withdrawal. Btw this is also wasting time too. 0.1 doger per claim, and min bet is 0.0000001 I never saw that any site will give this lowest min bet for doge, usually it takes like 0.01 or 0.001 doge as their min bet but primedice gives the lowest min bet for doge. I will say it will take forever just to get into 4000 doge withdrawal Isn't there min bet for BTC actually 0 Satoshi's. Basically you can bet 0 and basically if you win you get nothing and if you lose you lose nothing. So the low min bet for Doge isn't too much of a surprise. I remember I had a strategy I tried for fun. Basically rolled like 2 or 3 winners on the 50/50 dice, and then just set my base bet to 0 and rolled again hoping it would be a loss and I would lose nothing and then again I would go and return to the base bet. I think this is actually the reason why they allowed betting on 0 Satoshis, since it really doesn't benefit the site in any way but the roll actually does get processed. But it will be pointless to have that, we gamble to get profit, not to waste something like 0 bet, although it only to skip a few bets? What I mean, there is no point to do that, skip a few bets and that will guarantee your outcome? I do not think it works that way and I do not even know why someone would do this 0 bet from the start
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October 17, 2018, 08:53:31 AM |
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--snip for clearer thread--
Long requested and finally here! Already seeing Doge highrollers!
very nice primedice added doge,I always play with doge. but, I think, the minimum withdrawal of 4000 DOGE is very large ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I agree. DOGE faucet only give 0.1 DOGE and i doubt anyone could make even 1000x profit from faucet only. But 4000 DOGE equal to $20 which is small amount for gambling. Are you saying that you are going to abuse the faucet? Is it not forbidden on such great site like primedice? And even you manage it to get 1000x,I do not think they will let you pass with your withdrawal. Btw this is also wasting time too. 0.1 doger per claim, and min bet is 0.0000001 I never saw that any site will give this lowest min bet for doge, usually it takes like 0.01 or 0.001 doge as their min bet but primedice gives the lowest min bet for doge. I will say it will take forever just to get into 4000 doge withdrawal Isn't there min bet for BTC actually 0 Satoshi's. Basically you can bet 0 and basically if you win you get nothing and if you lose you lose nothing. So the low min bet for Doge isn't too much of a surprise. I remember I had a strategy I tried for fun. Basically rolled like 2 or 3 winners on the 50/50 dice, and then just set my base bet to 0 and rolled again hoping it would be a loss and I would lose nothing and then again I would go and return to the base bet. I think this is actually the reason why they allowed betting on 0 Satoshis, since it really doesn't benefit the site in any way but the roll actually does get processed. But it will be pointless to have that, we gamble to get profit, not to waste something like 0 bet, although it only to skip a few bets? What I mean, there is no point to do that, skip a few bets and that will guarantee your outcome? I do not think it works that way and I do not even know why someone would do this 0 bet from the start
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October 17, 2018, 10:10:56 AM |
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Isn't there min bet for BTC actually 0 Satoshi's. Basically you can bet 0 and basically if you win you get nothing and if you lose you lose nothing.
So the low min bet for Doge isn't too much of a surprise.
I remember I had a strategy I tried for fun. Basically rolled like 2 or 3 winners on the 50/50 dice, and then just set my base bet to 0 and rolled again hoping it would be a loss and I would lose nothing and then again I would go and return to the base bet.
I think this is actually the reason why they allowed betting on 0 Satoshis, since it really doesn't benefit the site in any way but the roll actually does get processed.
Yes that's right, and it is called Pre rolling (Skipping nonces) in gambling terms. Most used as you did when you want to skip some rolls. skipping nonces and pre rolling are two completely different things. Skipping nonces is a form of casinos cheating, pre rolling is rolling 0's before betting with your strategy.
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October 17, 2018, 11:06:15 AM |
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But it will be pointless to have that, we gamble to get profit, not to waste something like 0 bet, although it only to skip a few bets? What I mean, there is no point to do that, skip a few bets and that will guarantee your outcome? I do not think it works that way and I do not even know why someone would do this 0 bet from the start
I believe there were many PD users do this "pre-rolling" with 0 satoshi bet. It is just a part of strategy, obviously there is no guarantee that the outcome after pre-rolling will be correct/win. Just like other strategies where there is no guarantee to win. I did the same thing long time ago when I was hunting for big payout, indeed sometime it works (when we are lucky) but many time it does not work like what is expected.
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October 17, 2018, 12:42:44 PM |
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Long requested and finally here! Already seeing Doge highrollers!
very nice primedice added doge,I always play with doge. but, I think, the minimum withdrawal of 4000 DOGE is very large ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I agree. DOGE faucet only give 0.1 DOGE and i doubt anyone could make even 1000x profit from faucet only. But 4000 DOGE equal to $20 which is small amount for gambling. Are you saying that you are going to abuse the faucet? Is it not forbidden on such great site like primedice? And even you manage it to get 1000x,I do not think they will let you pass with your withdrawal. Btw this is also wasting time too. 0.1 doger per claim, and min bet is 0.0000001 I never saw that any site will give this lowest min bet for doge, usually it takes like 0.01 or 0.001 doge as their min bet but primedice gives the lowest min bet for doge. I will say it will take forever just to get into 4000 doge withdrawal Isn't there min bet for BTC actually 0 Satoshi's. Basically you can bet 0 and basically if you win you get nothing and if you lose you lose nothing. So the low min bet for Doge isn't too much of a surprise. I remember I had a strategy I tried for fun. Basically rolled like 2 or 3 winners on the 50/50 dice, and then just set my base bet to 0 and rolled again hoping it would be a loss and I would lose nothing and then again I would go and return to the base bet. I think this is actually the reason why they allowed betting on 0 Satoshis, since it really doesn't benefit the site in any way but the roll actually does get processed. But it will be pointless to have that, we gamble to get profit, not to waste something like 0 bet, although it only to skip a few bets? What I mean, there is no point to do that, skip a few bets and that will guarantee your outcome? I do not think it works that way and I do not even know why someone would do this 0 bet from the start bet 0. maybe for bet a small chance. (chance 5) I also bet chance 5 with the initial bet 0. after that bet is above 0
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I don't endorse non-escrow'd trades between players, I recommend people do so at their own risk. We've partnered with a company that does altcoin exchange for a lot of big exchanges and just finished implementing it, will be launching soon.
great news! an altcoin exchange without the need to resort to third parties was long time due now people will be able to convert between currencies and won't be tempted to withdraw to do it so somewhere else ,hope the rates will be competitive doge introduction is nice as well, wonder what coins are in plans if there are any?
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October 17, 2018, 09:58:03 PM |
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I don't endorse non-escrow'd trades between players, I recommend people do so at their own risk. We've partnered with a company that does altcoin exchange for a lot of big exchanges and just finished implementing it, will be launching soon.
This is pretty big news! Will this get rolled out to Stake as well?
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October 17, 2018, 10:05:25 PM |
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We've partnered with a company that does altcoin exchange for a lot of big exchanges and just finished implementing it, will be launching soon.
If the rates are updated in real time and the fee is low, it could be fantastic for those who do some mild trading between the main cryptos (like me).
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October 17, 2018, 10:58:35 PM |
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We've partnered with a company that does altcoin exchange for a lot of big exchanges and just finished implementing it, will be launching soon.
If the rates are updated in real time and the fee is low, it could be fantastic for those who do some mild trading between the main cryptos (like me). Yes its great news. Honestly in my opinion I am surprised that a service such as this wasn't introduced in the past to deal with bitcoin services which are not exchanges. In my opinion its alot of work for a bitcoin casino to add a new coin. Basically its a lot of programming work and certain coins like ETH require an extensive amount of space due to their oversized blockchain. And with every new altcoin listed it will become more and more complicated. This way the casino only needs BTC listed and they use a 3rd party service to do the conversion and the 3rd party service can get a small fee. Hope to see this launch very soon.
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