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January 13, 2017, 12:47:31 AM |
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How can I trust primedice. I just take 10% risk. when I place small amount bet That's time I won. But any time I increase my bet that's time I lost. It's primedice regular scene. If primedice seen you won good ammount then there take action against you. Result you lost that's time. I just want to back my money.
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Actually you took ~10.5% risk. Firstly, sorry for your big loss earlier when you played at 1.42x multipler, but you know all of your bet are provably fair, you can check by yourself each of your bets. So, there is no refund because all bets already verified. Assume you were won earlier, would you like to send back your winings to primedice? primedice says there provably fair but what kind of provably fair is it ? If you click on the Fairness link in the top menu bar of PD, it gives you an explanation of what "Provably Fair" means and also provides you with the information and resources you need to verify your roll numbers independently. Yes I know that. But you seen my bet. It's impossible every time lost betting when I increase bet amount. How long you've been playing dice in a provably fair site? Seems you are just pretty new in the business. Nothing to worry about on your screenshot, you just got hit by bad luck when you increase your bet size, it happens some time and if you really understand provably fair you wouldn't be here complaining Not some time, Everytime it happen with me, why ?
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January 13, 2017, 03:40:29 AM |
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if i wanted to bet 50BTC primedice is the onl site i would trust at this point Just bet your 50btc now bro! don't forget to share your bet on here ID when you done. Primedice won't scam your 50 btc He wouldn't bet 50 btc all at once lol. all he's saying that he trusts primedice with 50 btc bet at current price! if i wanted to bet 50BTC primedice is the onl site i would trust at this point Just bet your 50btc now bro! don't forget to share your bet on here ID when you done. Primedice won't scam your 50 btc I doubt that he will bet 50btc in primedice, i mean, really? Risk $46500 ($910*50 btc) in a bet? You are trust primedice but you're still wearing betcoin.ag signature? lol. Well Max payout is 50BTC so you can't bet 50BTC. But he could try just 25BTC on 2x or just 48BTC on 98%. A red on 98% would be sick, epic at sad at once. As far as i know the max payout is 30 btc? They raised the max payout a few weeks ago and it's now 50BTC. From then I haven't seen a 25BTC bet on 2x. ProGame was playing a lot 0.00499999 on 9900x but too bad he didn't hit. I used to have many bits running on 9900x bets or so. Basically I would bet about 20000 times or so and if no winner came up I would start betting a few Sats, if after another 10000 bets I didn't hit a winner, I would increase my base price. All was well for a few months until, I think I hit 80000 Hits or so and they were all losers and almost ended up losing all of my BTC in most of my accounts. So yeah the 9900x isn't always gauranteed to work. Of course it doesn't work man, that's the base of the logical fallacy "future is related to past". There is no link between the previous bets and the future ones. As convinient as it could feel, its not because it hit red 1000 times that next time should be black. Stats are the same for the 1001 times than for the first one man. Yes I understand however consider this scenario. Lets assume house edge is 0% for simplicity. Say you take 100 bets, 50 are winners and 50 are losers. Then lets say you take another 100 bets, 10 are winners, and 90 are losers. So the house is winning and eventually sometime in the future, the stats must shift so Casino wins 50% and you win 50% of the time. So chances are the next 100 bets, there will be more winners than losers. I am sure there are many who make good money with similar methods as I described. That's 100% a fallacy.
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numanoid
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January 13, 2017, 05:13:39 AM |
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~snip~ Not some time, Everytime it happen with me, why ?
Because you were unlucky, Only that. You were played on high win chance/low odds (89.5%/1.11x) Do you think all of your bets will always green/win? No. Actually playing on high chance is too risky than you playing on low win chance, when you YOLO your bets on high chance and lose, then you lost all your balance, just like your images.
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January 13, 2017, 08:49:58 AM |
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if i wanted to bet 50BTC primedice is the onl site i would trust at this point Just bet your 50btc now bro! don't forget to share your bet on here ID when you done. Primedice won't scam your 50 btc He wouldn't bet 50 btc all at once lol. all he's saying that he trusts primedice with 50 btc bet at current price! if i wanted to bet 50BTC primedice is the onl site i would trust at this point Just bet your 50btc now bro! don't forget to share your bet on here ID when you done. Primedice won't scam your 50 btc I doubt that he will bet 50btc in primedice, i mean, really? Risk $46500 ($910*50 btc) in a bet? You are trust primedice but you're still wearing betcoin.ag signature? lol. Well Max payout is 50BTC so you can't bet 50BTC. But he could try just 25BTC on 2x or just 48BTC on 98%. A red on 98% would be sick, epic at sad at once. As far as i know the max payout is 30 btc? They raised the max payout a few weeks ago and it's now 50BTC. From then I haven't seen a 25BTC bet on 2x. ProGame was playing a lot 0.00499999 on 9900x but too bad he didn't hit. I used to have many bits running on 9900x bets or so. Basically I would bet about 20000 times or so and if no winner came up I would start betting a few Sats, if after another 10000 bets I didn't hit a winner, I would increase my base price. All was well for a few months until, I think I hit 80000 Hits or so and they were all losers and almost ended up losing all of my BTC in most of my accounts. So yeah the 9900x isn't always gauranteed to work. Of course it doesn't work man, that's the base of the logical fallacy "future is related to past". There is no link between the previous bets and the future ones. As convinient as it could feel, its not because it hit red 1000 times that next time should be black. Stats are the same for the 1001 times than for the first one man. Yes I understand however consider this scenario. Lets assume house edge is 0% for simplicity. Say you take 100 bets, 50 are winners and 50 are losers. Then lets say you take another 100 bets, 10 are winners, and 90 are losers. So the house is winning and eventually sometime in the future, the stats must shift so Casino wins 50% and you win 50% of the time. So chances are the next 100 bets, there will be more winners than losers. I am sure there are many who make good money with similar methods as I described. That's 100% a fallacy. Well when you are dealing with probability you can assume that if the house wins 50% and you win 50% when rolls -> infinity. Then chances are the next 100 bets, there will be more winners than losers to even it out. Yes I understand that each roll is completely independent of the prior and the next 100 bets can also have 90% losers and 10% winners. That's how people go bankrupt when doing martingale. However if you assume it will eventually even out then you chances of betting 100 rolls and winning 51 times or more is higher than if you made 100 bets prior and won 90% of them and lost only 10%.
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Jubiar2
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January 13, 2017, 11:37:45 AM |
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Edward Miroslav or Stunna back my 1.68 btc. I don't want to lose for you fucking scamming sites. give back my money. primedice take my all money, i want to back it.
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moka5555
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January 13, 2017, 03:05:27 PM |
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Edward Miroslav or Stunna back my 1.68 btc. I don't want to lose for you fucking scamming sites. give back my money. primedice take my all money, i want to back it.
Who is Miroslav?
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yolanda222
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January 13, 2017, 03:06:23 PM |
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Edward Miroslav or Stunna back my 1.68 btc. I don't want to lose for you fucking scamming sites. give back my money. primedice take my all money, i want to back it.
can not return,you've lost because of a bet,Your useless temper temper here. I guess this is your first gambling so you are not accustomed to accepting defeat
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January 13, 2017, 03:16:44 PM |
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Hey there.
Had 2FA with my account but I lost my phone so I can't login anymore. My account is "Terrakiumm" on pd.
Could you help me getting it back? Just disable the 2FA thing, I know my password.
Thanks in advance!
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Jubiar2
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January 13, 2017, 03:17:22 PM |
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Edward Miroslav or Stunna back my 1.68 btc. I don't want to lose for you fucking scamming sites. give back my money. primedice take my all money, i want to back it.
can not return,you've lost because of a bet,Your useless temper temper here. I guess this is your first gambling so you are not accustomed to accepting defeat This is not my fist gambling. Your sites have problem. Check my screenshoots. It's too funny when you see some make few profit then primedice made him poor just in few second.
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January 13, 2017, 03:17:34 PM |
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Hey there.
Had 2FA with my account but I lost my phone so I can't login anymore. My account is "Terrakiumm" on pd.
Could you help me getting it back? Just disable the 2FA thing, I know my password.
Thanks in advance!
Hey, Can you please send ticket about that?
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January 13, 2017, 03:19:52 PM |
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Edward Miroslav or Stunna back my 1.68 btc. I don't want to lose for you fucking scamming sites. give back my money. primedice take my all money, i want to back it.
can not return,you've lost because of a bet,Your useless temper temper here. I guess this is your first gambling so you are not accustomed to accepting defeat This is not my fist gambling. Your sites have problem. Check my screenshoots. It's too funny when you see some make few profit then primedice made him poor just in few second. It is called gambling for a reason. You can not expect to play on 99% chance and win 100% of the time. And as it was explained to you many times you can verify every single bet from that screenshot. You can read and try to understand provably fair here www.dicesites.com If you find any not matching bets then you can come to us and here and accuse us of scamming.
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January 13, 2017, 03:31:36 PM |
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spixel
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January 13, 2017, 06:29:45 PM |
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I could be 100% wrong but I don't trust primedice from my experiences and what I've seen with others, that's just my honest opinion. Call it bad luck or whatever but I see alot of really strange behaviour, uncanny bad luck for alot of people, not just losing the bets but the timing of losing the bets and the crazy losing streaks just at the right time. The provably fair thing is so complicated to most users that they could be screwed over but just can't understand it so accept that it's fair. All I hear is 'ask dooglas' he'll say its fair, you mean that other guy who also runs a dice game site? And how do we know the primedice verification websites aren't run by affiliates? Again I could be 100% wrong but this is just my honest opinion how I feel.
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1982dre
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January 13, 2017, 06:35:31 PM |
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I could be 100% wrong but I don't trust primedice from my experiences and what I've seen with others, that's just my honest opinion. Call it bad luck or whatever but I see alot of really strange behaviour, uncanny bad luck for alot of people, not just losing the bets but the timing of losing the bets and the crazy losing streaks just at the right time. The provably fair thing is so complicated to most users that they could be screwed over but just can't understand it so accept that it's fair. All I hear is 'ask dooglas' he'll say its fair, you mean that other guy who also runs a dice game site? And how do we know the primedice verification websites aren't run by affiliates? Again I could be 100% wrong but this is just my honest opinion how I feel.
What I see is a lit of users complaining when they just loose a little. If you see how much High Rollers win last weeks then it looks like its all fair to me. If they would cheat they definitely do it at the high rollers and don't let them win 50 BTC in a few hours. But if you believe they get rich by screwing low rollers, you need a doctor.
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spixel
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January 13, 2017, 06:39:54 PM |
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I could be 100% wrong but I don't trust primedice from my experiences and what I've seen with others, that's just my honest opinion. Call it bad luck or whatever but I see alot of really strange behaviour, uncanny bad luck for alot of people, not just losing the bets but the timing of losing the bets and the crazy losing streaks just at the right time. The provably fair thing is so complicated to most users that they could be screwed over but just can't understand it so accept that it's fair. All I hear is 'ask dooglas' he'll say its fair, you mean that other guy who also runs a dice game site? And how do we know the primedice verification websites aren't run by affiliates? Again I could be 100% wrong but this is just my honest opinion how I feel.
What I see is a lit of users complaining when they just loose a little. If you see how much High Rollers win last weeks then it looks like its all fair to me. If they would cheat they definitely do it at the high rollers and don't let them win 50 BTC in a few hours. But if you believe they get rich by screwing low rollers, you need a doctor. The only high roller I see winning is probably the same person (negan/noctis/sin/others) and could be allowed to win to entice people. They lost 60k 1 day and said in chat 'its only money'. Next day showed up betting shit loads again and won. Then when someone asked for $1 from him he said no. If he's so rich to not be bothered by losing 60k, that's odd behaviour. Infact nearly every high roller is a loser. How often do you see a random high roller show up betting moderate amounts and win 3-4 bets in a row? Not often. How often do you see them lose 4 in a row and bust. Very often.
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1982dre
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January 13, 2017, 07:00:32 PM |
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I could be 100% wrong but I don't trust primedice from my experiences and what I've seen with others, that's just my honest opinion. Call it bad luck or whatever but I see alot of really strange behaviour, uncanny bad luck for alot of people, not just losing the bets but the timing of losing the bets and the crazy losing streaks just at the right time. The provably fair thing is so complicated to most users that they could be screwed over but just can't understand it so accept that it's fair. All I hear is 'ask dooglas' he'll say its fair, you mean that other guy who also runs a dice game site? And how do we know the primedice verification websites aren't run by affiliates? Again I could be 100% wrong but this is just my honest opinion how I feel.
What I see is a lit of users complaining when they just loose a little. If you see how much High Rollers win last weeks then it looks like its all fair to me. If they would cheat they definitely do it at the high rollers and don't let them win 50 BTC in a few hours. But if you believe they get rich by screwing low rollers, you need a doctor. The only high roller I see winning is probably the same person (negan/noctis/sin/others) and could be allowed to win to entice people. They lost 60k 1 day and said in chat 'its only money'. Next day showed up betting shit loads again and won. Then when someone asked for $1 from him he said no. If he's so rich to not be bothered by losing 60k, that's odd behaviour. Infact nearly every high roller is a loser. How often do you see a random high roller show up betting moderate amounts and win 3-4 bets in a row? Not often. How often do you see them lose 4 in a row and bust. Very often. Well I see that very often. It is just like that people remember the bad streaks. You will always here it when someone got 10 reds in a row on 10x. If they win 10x in a row you don't hear them. Just because they raise the losses to get the losses back x a red streak can he fatal. The same amounts green, doesn't give them the same win.
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January 13, 2017, 07:03:18 PM |
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I could be 100% wrong but I don't trust primedice from my experiences and what I've seen with others, that's just my honest opinion. Call it bad luck or whatever but I see alot of really strange behaviour, uncanny bad luck for alot of people, not just losing the bets but the timing of losing the bets and the crazy losing streaks just at the right time. The provably fair thing is so complicated to most users that they could be screwed over but just can't understand it so accept that it's fair. All I hear is 'ask dooglas' he'll say its fair, you mean that other guy who also runs a dice game site? And how do we know the primedice verification websites aren't run by affiliates? Again I could be 100% wrong but this is just my honest opinion how I feel.
My thoughts are they are taking 1% rake they have no need to cheat unless they are a small dice site. This logic alone isn't 100% conclusive though. The volume of bets players put in at dice games its very hard to win long term so maybe thats why your results are bad idk.
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January 13, 2017, 07:15:12 PM |
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~snip~ Not some time, Everytime it happen with me, why ?
Because you were unlucky, Only that. You were played on high win chance/low odds (89.5%/1.11x) Do you think all of your bets will always green/win? No. Actually playing on high chance is too risky than you playing on low win chance, when you YOLO your bets on high chance and lose, then you lost all your balance, just like your images. I absolutely agree with this. From my experience I lose much more with high win chance/low odds than with betting 1% win chance for example. When you are betting with the low win chance you can make smaller bets and hope for win. You know that the chance to win is low so you don't expect green and if you weren't lucky you just stop. That's it guys, don't expect all greens even with x1.012012.
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January 13, 2017, 07:18:48 PM |
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That's 100% a fallacy.
Well when you are dealing with probability you can assume that if the house wins 50% and you win 50% when rolls -> infinity. Then chances are the next 100 bets, there will be more winners than losers to even it out. Yes I understand that each roll is completely independent of the prior and the next 100 bets can also have 90% losers and 10% winners. That's how people go bankrupt when doing martingale. However if you assume it will eventually even out then you chances of betting 100 rolls and winning 51 times or more is higher than if you made 100 bets prior and won 90% of them and lost only 10%.Nope, that's a completely false reasoning ^^ Let's say you bet on 50% and you lose 100 bets straight. Then in the next roll, you'll have exactly 50% chance of winning. And that for every rolls ever. Doesn't matter what you rolled. I understand what you mean, you mean you should win more because it has to even out eventually, but in reality that's not the case. It's just an impression your brain gots that's all
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January 13, 2017, 07:21:20 PM |
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That's 100% a fallacy.
Well when you are dealing with probability you can assume that if the house wins 50% and you win 50% when rolls -> infinity. Then chances are the next 100 bets, there will be more winners than losers to even it out. Yes I understand that each roll is completely independent of the prior and the next 100 bets can also have 90% losers and 10% winners. That's how people go bankrupt when doing martingale. However if you assume it will eventually even out then you chances of betting 100 rolls and winning 51 times or more is higher than if you made 100 bets prior and won 90% of them and lost only 10%.Nope, that's a completely false reasoning ^^ Let's say you bet on 50% and you lose 100 bets straight. Then in the next roll, you'll have exactly 50% chance of winning. And that for every rolls ever. Doesn't matter what you rolled. I understand what you mean, you mean you should win more because it has to even out eventually, but in reality that's not the case. It's just an impression your brain gots that's all But in this case you're not talking about the chance of winning the bet, you're talking about the chance of losing X amount of 50% bets in a row, which has its own odds.
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