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June 04, 2013, 03:33:05 PM |
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Wins: 184
Losses: 272
Win/Loss ratio: 0.676
1%  Happens if you bet on 68 or higher... That's 50.50 mate. I rarely change it. |
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Stunna (OP)
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Primedice.com, Stake.com
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June 04, 2013, 05:44:05 PM |
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Stunna! I have Prime points: 1746. What can I do with it? Can I convert it to bitcoin and keep playing? I think a good rate is 1000 points per bitcoin. But 10000 points isn't bad either. You can send it to my payout address or to Dabs. hehehehehe...
We're going to either launch a small shop which allows top players to buy bitcoin gear with their points, or let our top players exchange for bitcoins.  |
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Zaih
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June 04, 2013, 10:22:21 PM |
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I started with 0.2 or thereabouts. I was willing to lose it. So ... ... but it still sucks because I saw it go to 0.4, then to 0.8... Then 1.5, then I actually got to 2.0. Then the 1% House Edge kicked in.
I would venture a guess most of us wouldn't notice the difference if the house edge was 0%. It is the variance and losing streaks that usually get you. Are you guys doing the 10x momentous profits with martingale or something else? Yeh, I don't think I've ever even noticed rolling in the range which is in the houses favour (50 - 50.5 or thereabouts depending on the roll over game). Then again, I'm sure I have without noticing lol |
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Hfleer
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June 04, 2013, 10:32:36 PM |
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Wins: 184
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Win/Loss ratio: 0.676
1% Happens if you bet on 68 or higher... That's 50.50 mate. I rarely change it. Damn, you had some very bad luck there then. |
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Dabs
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The Concierge of Crypto
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June 04, 2013, 11:59:09 PM |
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I started with 0.2 or thereabouts. I was willing to lose it. So ... ... but it still sucks because I saw it go to 0.4, then to 0.8... Then 1.5, then I actually got to 2.0. Then the 1% House Edge kicked in.
I would venture a guess most of us wouldn't notice the difference if the house edge was 0%. It is the variance and losing streaks that usually get you. Are you guys doing the 10x momentous profits with martingale or something else? I found 0.02 somewhere (old localbitcoins transaction that was funded that did not happen, dated April 10.) So I cancelled it, and sent it to PD. So I bet 0.01 and bring it up to 0.03 .... then decide (mistake) to bet it all to bring it higher faster. Whoa, just 2 games and I'm out. Again. Yes, of course we're doing a deformed martingale strategy. But if you get impatient with the 0.0001 gains (which is just good enough to cover the transaction fee) you tend to bump it up. Therefore bastardizing some more your strategy. Which is already a gamble. Then you decide to gamble more. Then when you lose, and your balance is below 0.0001, you are basically left with no choice but to bet it all, or add more coins to your balance. Or you could play 1 satoshi at a time, but that doesn't make sense anymore. Stunna, at what point can I be considered a top player? My maximum bet was 2 bitcoins. But before I could make it go any higher, I got cleaned. 1762 Prime Points. I can be your first test person to convert points to coins. Just don't make it satoshis. hehehe. Otherwise, I play again next week (or next month) depends on if someone sells me a coin or two. |
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Stunna (OP)
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June 05, 2013, 05:29:06 AM |
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Stunna, at what point can I be considered a top player? My maximum bet was 2 bitcoins. But before I could make it go any higher, I got cleaned. 1762 Prime Points. I can be your first test person to convert points to coins. Just don't make it satoshis. hehehe.
Being ranked on the leader board makes you a top player. We are going to adjust the leader board to rank by prime points. We still haven't 100% decided what people will be able to spend them on. |
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Dabs
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June 05, 2013, 09:33:21 AM |
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Ok. I think I'm number 11, if your Leaderboard only displays the top 10. I got another 0.1 to play with. hehehe.. Will try to make it last longer this time by dividing my starting bet by 10, (or add another zero after the decimal point.)
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Zaih
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June 05, 2013, 09:42:51 AM |
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Ok. I think I'm number 11, if your Leaderboard only displays the top 10. I got another 0.1 to play with. hehehe.. Will try to make it last longer this time by dividing my starting bet by 10, (or add another zero after the decimal point.)
I think leader board is off total wagered not Prime Points  |
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BigBitz
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June 05, 2013, 10:05:19 AM |
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Another 9 losses out of 10. I'm beginning to think PrimeDice has it in for me. 1 minute ago 50.5 2 0.30000000 Lose 48.33
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.21915206 Lose 44.71
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Win 64.61
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 45.85
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 23.78
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 5.85
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 32.74
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 40.24
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 46.72
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 36.38
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hasher87
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June 05, 2013, 10:09:56 AM |
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Another 9 losses out of 10. I'm beginning to think PrimeDice has it in for me. 1 minute ago 50.5 2 0.30000000 Lose 48.33
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.21915206 Lose 44.71
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Win 64.61
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 45.85
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 23.78
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 5.85
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 32.74
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 40.24
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 46.72
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 36.38
this is why i preferred with coinroll due to this reason prepared server-roll seed = doom |
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BigBitz
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June 05, 2013, 10:13:08 AM |
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Another 9 losses out of 10. I'm beginning to think PrimeDice has it in for me. 1 minute ago 50.5 2 0.30000000 Lose 48.33
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.21915206 Lose 44.71
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Win 64.61
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 45.85
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 23.78
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 5.85
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 32.74
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 40.24
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 46.72
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 36.38
this is why i preferred with coinroll due to this reason prepared server-roll seed = doom wait, what, PREPARED? It's PRE_ROLLED? are you fucking joking me? I've lost over 10BTC on this site and it's not mentioned anywhere it's pre rolled?! |
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Zaih
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June 05, 2013, 10:15:04 AM |
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Another 9 losses out of 10. I'm beginning to think PrimeDice has it in for me. 1 minute ago 50.5 2 0.30000000 Lose 48.33
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.21915206 Lose 44.71
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Win 64.61
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 45.85
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 23.78
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 5.85
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 32.74
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 40.24
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 46.72
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 36.38
this is why i preferred with coinroll due to this reason prepared server-roll seed = doom Without being too 'sock puppet' like, I believe that's a pretty unfair assumption. You constantly see people cashing out 1 - 20 Bitcoins and when you look at their previous bets & profit, it's generally substantial. I really really doubt Stunna would be manipulating rolls over 0.1. You can also change your client seed quite easily, if you look at my previous rolls I change my client seed every time just so I have nothing to b***h about when I lose  It takes a few seconds each time. They're also working on making it easier, Idk what's taking so long though tbh. |
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ghibly79
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June 05, 2013, 10:21:31 AM |
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this is why i preferred with coinroll due to this reason
prepared server-roll seed = doom
I've seen some 14-15 losses streaks with the 50% game at coinroll, as I mentioned before (I mean 15 losses in a row, without any wins in between), it's totally normal over a large number of bets (can go even worse). (thx God my strat/instincts/luck worked till now at avoiding betting on those streaks  Except 1 time but I lost little and recovered soon). |
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Zaih
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June 05, 2013, 10:23:10 AM |
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Another 9 losses out of 10. I'm beginning to think PrimeDice has it in for me. 1 minute ago 50.5 2 0.30000000 Lose 48.33
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.21915206 Lose 44.71
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Win 64.61
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 45.85
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 23.78
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 5.85
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 32.74
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 40.24
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 46.72
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 36.38
this is why i preferred with coinroll due to this reason prepared server-roll seed = doom wait, what, PREPARED? It's PRE_ROLLED? are you fucking joking me? I've lost over 10BTC on this site and it's not mentioned anywhere it's pre rolled?! Bigbitz, what's your PrimeDice name? I wanna see this lol |
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🏰 TradeFortress 🏰
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June 05, 2013, 10:25:25 AM |
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Currently, the server knows the result if the user does not change the client seed. As something like 99% of users don't even know you can do that, this game is not provably fair. Not saying that it's cheating, but it's not provably fair.
It would literally take 1 line of code. Not securely random, but random enough as the client seed:
var clientSeed = Math.random();
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Zaih
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June 05, 2013, 10:26:19 AM |
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Currently, the server knows the result if the user does not change the client seed. As something like 99% of users don't even know you can do that, this game is not provably fair. Not saying that it's cheating, but it's not provably fair.
It would literally take 1 line of code. Not securely random, but random enough as the client seed:
var clientSeed = Math.random();
1 line of code to fix or to cheat? |
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🏰 TradeFortress 🏰
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June 05, 2013, 10:27:13 AM |
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To make it really provably fair.
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BigBitz
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June 05, 2013, 10:28:34 AM |
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To make it really provably fair.
It seems to me I have a lost a considerable amount of coin to a game which appears to be pre-determined.  That's shocking. I shall not use PrimeDice.com again |
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hasher87
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June 05, 2013, 10:29:16 AM |
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Another 9 losses out of 10. I'm beginning to think PrimeDice has it in for me. 1 minute ago 50.5 2 0.30000000 Lose 48.33
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.21915206 Lose 44.71
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Win 64.61
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 45.85
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 23.78
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 5.85
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 32.74
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 40.24
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 46.72
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 36.38
this is why i preferred with coinroll due to this reason prepared server-roll seed = doom wait, what, PREPARED? It's PRE_ROLLED? are you fucking joking me? I've lost over 10BTC on this site and it's not mentioned anywhere it's pre rolled?! i wouldn't say its 'PRE-ROLLED' to be exact, but this is what bugs me a bit Server seed for next roll:
ee69b2a8d6dec664ee0d1fc7e I'll stick to coinroll for now. hmac_sha512(secret, lastdeposittxid:nonce) seems more legit |
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