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Cool appreciate it. Another question is about the so called strategies I see on the primedice forum? I thought this was a simple dice game, how much strategy can actually be involved? I'm looking to make a few high stake gambles with the standard 49.5% odds. Wondering if I really need to look into "strategies" before getting started.
Here is the list of some strategies you can use with dicebot. https://bot.seuntjie.com/Scripts.aspxThey can prove efficient in short term but in long term they all end in bust. Appreciate the link. I guess my question is, if I only plan on making 2 or 3 bets, is there a point in using a bot or researching strategies? Basically I just want to roll the dice and see if I could double my coin. I lost $22,000 from trading bitcoin these past few days and want to see if I could recoup my losses. I have 3 bitcoin that I'm willing to bet and I basically am hoping to double my money. How do you recommend proceeding? Just throw it all in with one bet (50% odds)? Or setup several different bets? Also, on a somewhat unrelated note, I sent a test amount to my primedice wallet (.049 BTC) with a fee of 20 sats/byte. Is it strange that I still haven't received it? I sent it 3 hours ago, transacation is in link below... I know fee was low but still seems like a long time to get 1 confirmation. https://blockchain.info/tx/6255d7d0d5013a3594e757ccc8a81997a523446a94624dae69190ab078af43aaYou do realize that chances are you will most likely also lose those 3 bitcoins by gambling? Sure you can double your wins and get 6 bitcoins in total but with gambling the house edge is always against you. How did you lose your bitcoins? By buying alts? Shorting bitcoin? I'm aware of the risk. When you say the house always has an edge, does that still apply even if I set 50% odds with a 1.98x payout? I lost money from shorting, the market has been extremely unpredictable and the cancellation of Segwit2x just made things worse. Yes there is always a house edge against you. If you take less than 10 bets or so, then it shouldn't be that much of an effect as when you take 100 bets or so. But keep in mind that Bitcoin gambling is not a gauranteed way to make money. Try maybe gambling on the faucet first and see how it works for you. If the house always has an edge then how is this game "provably fair"? If it's actually fair, 50% odds should mean 50% odds...
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RHavar
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November 09, 2017, 08:58:29 PM |
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If the house always has an edge then how is this game "provably fair"? If it's actually fair, 50% odds should mean 50% odds...
Provably fair just means that you can validate the site offers what they claim to offer. PrimeDice claims to offer a 1% house edge (which is an industry standard), so you can validate both this and the fact they didn't rig the roll. The term for "50% odds" for 2x is known as "fair odds", but no business offers that. After all it's a casino, not a charity Basically I just want to roll the dice and see if I could double my coin. I lost $22,000 from trading bitcoin these past few days and want to see if I could recoup my losses. I have 3 bitcoin that I'm willing to bet and I basically am hoping to double my money. How do you recommend proceeding? Just throw it all in with one bet (50% odds)? Or setup several different bets?
If you're interested in this, check out this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=939776.0To avoid the noise, just read posts that are written by myself, dooglus and blockage. the tldr; is that if you're smart, you can lower the house edge from 1% to ~0.7% or something similar. -- But actually I can do one better. I'll offer you both fair odds (and provably fair) if you create a top-level thread here on bitcointalk like "3 bitcoin coin toss challenge", and I'll pick heads or tails (and sha256 hash my result with a salt, so I can't change it). And you guess which. If you get it wrong, I get 3 bitcoin. If you get it right (or I "lose" the salt) you get 3 bitcoin. I get some free publicity, and you get your bet with fair odds. (PM me or create a top-level thread if interest, to avoid taking this thread off topic)
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Check out gamblingsitefinder.com for a decent list/rankings of crypto casinos. Note: I have no affiliation or interest in it, and don't even agree with all the rankings ... but it's the only uncorrupted review site I'm aware of.
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adaseb
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November 09, 2017, 11:25:27 PM |
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Cool appreciate it. Another question is about the so called strategies I see on the primedice forum? I thought this was a simple dice game, how much strategy can actually be involved? I'm looking to make a few high stake gambles with the standard 49.5% odds. Wondering if I really need to look into "strategies" before getting started.
Here is the list of some strategies you can use with dicebot. https://bot.seuntjie.com/Scripts.aspxThey can prove efficient in short term but in long term they all end in bust. Appreciate the link. I guess my question is, if I only plan on making 2 or 3 bets, is there a point in using a bot or researching strategies? Basically I just want to roll the dice and see if I could double my coin. I lost $22,000 from trading bitcoin these past few days and want to see if I could recoup my losses. I have 3 bitcoin that I'm willing to bet and I basically am hoping to double my money. How do you recommend proceeding? Just throw it all in with one bet (50% odds)? Or setup several different bets? Also, on a somewhat unrelated note, I sent a test amount to my primedice wallet (.049 BTC) with a fee of 20 sats/byte. Is it strange that I still haven't received it? I sent it 3 hours ago, transacation is in link below... I know fee was low but still seems like a long time to get 1 confirmation. https://blockchain.info/tx/6255d7d0d5013a3594e757ccc8a81997a523446a94624dae69190ab078af43aaYou do realize that chances are you will most likely also lose those 3 bitcoins by gambling? Sure you can double your wins and get 6 bitcoins in total but with gambling the house edge is always against you. How did you lose your bitcoins? By buying alts? Shorting bitcoin? I'm aware of the risk. When you say the house always has an edge, does that still apply even if I set 50% odds with a 1.98x payout? I lost money from shorting, the market has been extremely unpredictable and the cancellation of Segwit2x just made things worse. Yes there is always a house edge against you. If you take less than 10 bets or so, then it shouldn't be that much of an effect as when you take 100 bets or so. But keep in mind that Bitcoin gambling is not a gauranteed way to make money. Try maybe gambling on the faucet first and see how it works for you. If the house always has an edge then how is this game "provably fair"? If it's actually fair, 50% odds should mean 50% odds... The provably fair in my opinion is a bad term. It doesn't mean the odds are fair, what it means is that you can verify your bets afterwards and make sure you weren't cheated. For example say you are given a hashed seed 5feceb66ffc86f38d952786c6d696c79c2dbc239dd4e91b46729d73a27fb57e9 The way provaby fair works your roll is usually calculated as "server seed+client seed+noone" So you are given the hashed result, which means the server seed is "0", you don't normally know this. The client seed you know yourself, lets say its "1", and the noonce starts at "0". Hence the result will be =1,2,3,4,5,6 for every sequential roll. Way you can verify is after you are done betting the hashed seed was initially "0", and you can go to a SHA256 site and make sure that "0" was the hashed seed they gave you. Its actually a very clever way to prove bets.
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Zand_
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November 11, 2017, 10:25:44 PM |
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Just thought I'd give an update. I ended up wagering 3 BTC the other night and came out victorious. I recorded a video of the 4 trades I made to double my coin, link is below. Definitely the most exhilarating 5 minutes I've experienced in a long time. Primedice has proven themselves to be a reliable, trustworthy service with excellent customer support. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt27VUJzQVY&t=2s
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adaseb
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November 11, 2017, 11:41:30 PM |
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Just thought I'd give an update. I ended up wagering 3 BTC the other night and came out victorious. I recorded a video of the 4 trades I made to double my coin, link is below. Definitely the most exhilarating 5 minutes I've experienced in a long time. Primedice has proven themselves to be a reliable, trustworthy service with excellent customer support. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt27VUJzQVY&t=2sWow. It was pretty intense watching that. Especially with BTC being $6300. You got some balls just betting an entire 1 BTC, winning and then betting 2 BTC and losing and to continue to gamble on. Most people would probably either leave with the 4 BTC or 2 BTC. Reading the chat was funny how everybody was like "Zand don't be greedy". Congrats
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chris200x9
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November 12, 2017, 02:05:17 AM |
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Just thought I'd give an update. I ended up wagering 3 BTC the other night and came out victorious. I recorded a video of the 4 trades I made to double my coin, link is below. Definitely the most exhilarating 5 minutes I've experienced in a long time. Primedice has proven themselves to be a reliable, trustworthy service with excellent customer support. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt27VUJzQVY&t=2sWow. It was pretty intense watching that. Especially with BTC being $6300. You got some balls just betting an entire 1 BTC, winning and then betting 2 BTC and losing and to continue to gamble on. Most people would probably either leave with the 4 BTC or 2 BTC. Reading the chat was funny how everybody was like "Zand don't be greedy". Congrats But that member overall winnings from last 24 hours is over 280BTC. Actually, I can't believe myself one can bet such a high amount even with such a high BTC prices. With this one day winnings in some countries, people no need to work for the lifetime. It looks this member may be got these bitcoins when prices were less and that's why they can take such a high risk.
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November 12, 2017, 02:58:08 AM |
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Can't deposit in Canada? Maybe I am located too close to US?
I have German citizenship and will be there next week. Can I make a deposit from Germany?
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Stunna (OP)
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November 12, 2017, 03:09:09 AM |
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Just thought I'd give an update. I ended up wagering 3 BTC the other night and came out victorious. I recorded a video of the 4 trades I made to double my coin, link is below. Definitely the most exhilarating 5 minutes I've experienced in a long time. Primedice has proven themselves to be a reliable, trustworthy service with excellent customer support. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt27VUJzQVY&t=2sHahaha, such a great and suspenseful video!!! Congrats on the winnings, really enjoyed watching
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November 12, 2017, 08:30:57 AM |
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Just thought I'd give an update. I ended up wagering 3 BTC the other night and came out victorious. I recorded a video of the 4 trades I made to double my coin, link is below. Definitely the most exhilarating 5 minutes I've experienced in a long time. Primedice has proven themselves to be a reliable, trustworthy service with excellent customer support. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt27VUJzQVY&t=2sWow dude, you're such a risk taker! congrats on the win, hope you don't keep doing like this when your trades go bad lol. thanks for the video.
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November 12, 2017, 03:01:57 PM |
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Just thought I'd give an update. I ended up wagering 3 BTC the other night and came out victorious. I recorded a video of the 4 trades I made to double my coin, link is below. Definitely the most exhilarating 5 minutes I've experienced in a long time. Primedice has proven themselves to be a reliable, trustworthy service with excellent customer support. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt27VUJzQVY&t=2sWow dude that's too much of the risk. But your risk pays off you as well. Hope to see more action in future.
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joksim299
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Bitdice is scam scam scammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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November 12, 2017, 03:12:57 PM |
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Just thought I'd give an update. I ended up wagering 3 BTC the other night and came out victorious. I recorded a video of the 4 trades I made to double my coin, link is below. Definitely the most exhilarating 5 minutes I've experienced in a long time. Primedice has proven themselves to be a reliable, trustworthy service with excellent customer support. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt27VUJzQVY&t=2sHahaha, such a great and suspenseful video!!! Congrats on the winnings, really enjoyed watching I really liked the video hope you make some more videos
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November 12, 2017, 06:11:42 PM |
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Just thought I'd give an update. I ended up wagering 3 BTC the other night and came out victorious. I recorded a video of the 4 trades I made to double my coin, link is below. Definitely the most exhilarating 5 minutes I've experienced in a long time. Primedice has proven themselves to be a reliable, trustworthy service with excellent customer support. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt27VUJzQVY&t=2sha,intense and fun video and you got some balls,dude! betting 7k a pop is squeeky bum time glad lady luck was on your side and Primedice got a new fan (and 3 bitcoins less,lol) just looked at your other opened tab with 7200+ bitcoin price,sigh,I miss the 7k+ price times
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adaseb
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November 12, 2017, 08:30:50 PM |
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Just thought I'd give an update. I ended up wagering 3 BTC the other night and came out victorious. I recorded a video of the 4 trades I made to double my coin, link is below. Definitely the most exhilarating 5 minutes I've experienced in a long time. Primedice has proven themselves to be a reliable, trustworthy service with excellent customer support. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt27VUJzQVY&t=2sha,intense and fun video and you got some balls,dude! betting 7k a pop is squeeky bum time glad lady luck was on your side and Primedice got a new fan (and 3 bitcoins less,lol) just looked at your other opened tab with 7200+ bitcoin price,sigh,I miss the 7k+ price times Its funny how looking at the chat everybody was telling him he is crazy and especially that guy who PM him right after his win asking for 0.1 BTC? 0.1BTC is like $700 and he expects someone to send him that for free? Kind of glad I no longer participate in the primedice chat. The guy is broke and wants 0.1BTC just to gamble it again.
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November 12, 2017, 09:22:41 PM |
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Just thought I'd give an update. I ended up wagering 3 BTC the other night and came out victorious. I recorded a video of the 4 trades I made to double my coin, link is below. Definitely the most exhilarating 5 minutes I've experienced in a long time. Primedice has proven themselves to be a reliable, trustworthy service with excellent customer support. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt27VUJzQVY&t=2sThat is one hell of a game and an exuberant game and a huge win in a five minute gap,the risk you took is really huge and the luck was on your way and happy to see that you stopped at that moment and greed did not push you to follow more and roll for more profit,either way the guts to risk when the price was above $7000 is really high and glad to see big rolls are still happening with the price so high.
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November 12, 2017, 09:54:49 PM |
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Its funny how looking at the chat everybody was telling him he is crazy and especially that guy who PM him right after his win asking for 0.1 BTC?
0.1BTC is like $700 and he expects someone to send him that for free? Kind of glad I no longer participate in the primedice chat.
The guy is broke and wants 0.1BTC just to gamble it again.
It was a good roll from that individual and he took a big risk and reaped the benefit and he was really lucky at that moment,the chat forum is still infested with beggars and that is the annoying part with every dice site.
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Aengus
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November 15, 2017, 11:23:50 PM |
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Despite the ever increasing price of Bitcoin the high rollers list is still going nuts! Good to see some old names brining in the rain as well!
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Sweeet
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November 16, 2017, 03:30:34 AM |
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Wanted to find my statistics for my account on a different website but couldn't remember the name of it so I asked primedice chat, and what do I get? First attemptSecond attempt Final Attempt Looks like the state of Primedice hasn't changed much, if anyone knows the site I am talking about in the images could you let me know.A special thanks goes out to bojana for the support she provided to me! Not A Thing Has Changed
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Stunna (OP)
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November 16, 2017, 06:32:09 AM |
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Wanted to find my statistics for my account on a different website but couldn't remember the name of it so I asked primedice chat, and what do I get? First attemptSecond attempt Final Attempt Looks like the state of Primedice hasn't changed much, if anyone knows the site I am talking about in the images could you let me know.A special thanks goes out to bojana for the support she provided to me! Not A Thing Has Changed You're thinking of diggit.io . Also, what did you say prior to the warning? That seems like an unjust reason to be muted for a day so I'll explore that
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adaseb
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November 16, 2017, 09:54:45 AM |
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Despite the ever increasing price of Bitcoin the high rollers list is still going nuts! Good to see some old names brining in the rain as well!
These days though most of the bets are less than 1 BTC. Besides the guy who filmed himself betting 1-2 BTC, there is rarely someone that bets that big that ends up on the high rollers list. Its crazy that 1 BTC now is almost $10K if you count all the spin-off forks. Back in 2013, people were betting 1 BTC left and right because it was a nice whole number.
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November 16, 2017, 05:13:11 PM |
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Wanted to find my statistics for my account on a different website but couldn't remember the name of it so I asked primedice chat, and what do I get? First attemptSecond attempt Final Attempt Looks like the state of Primedice hasn't changed much, if anyone knows the site I am talking about in the images could you let me know.A special thanks goes out to bojana for the support she provided to me! Not A Thing Has Changed You're thinking of diggit.io . Also, what did you say prior to the warning? That seems like an unjust reason to be muted for a day so I'll explore that Thanks, look like their site went down, too bad can't view my statistics. I said Digg.it on my other account which made a link in the chat which got me immediately muted for 48 hours which I then explained on my other account that I had no intentions of making anyone click or link or advertising
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