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Same with me, Dice is synonymous with high multipliers I won't play Dice if the multiplier is under x100 Do you know about client seeds at Primedice? so I remember playing dice and high multiplier hunting when i hit x990 i have to change the client seed in primedice https://primedice.com/?modal=fairnessI do not know whether it has an effect or not, for sure this is an instruction from my friend at that time he said when it hit high multi we won't get it again if we play on the same client seed lol  If you understand how a roll number is created, then it's clear that believing in what your friend said is nothing more than a superstition.  In short, each next roll is absolutely independent from the previous one, and rotating your seed pair doesn't change a thing in that matter.
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for sure this is an instruction from my friend at that time he said when it hit high multi we won't get it again if we play on the same client seed lol  This is a well quoted misconception that gamblers often believe but it is false. The casino does not "remember" your rolls by your client seed or anything. Each roll is independent from another and that is why it is very much possible to hit two 99.99x multipliers right one after another and maybe even another one if you are luck enough. The key word here is luck and that you cannot predict. This also leads to the obsessive changing of seeds every few rolls or so - this is a useless exercise that some users do but it has not effect on rolls and neither does it improve the odds. Randomizing a thing that is already random is a waste of time.
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If you play x100 without changing the stake per 100 reels, your balance could be negative meanwhile I always change the bet amount in every 100 rolls this way I can cover the losses on the initial 100 rolls and I also started with a low amount. BTW I agree that nothing is certain in gambling, people are just trying to get more opportunities if you feel that way and you do benefiting from that strategy then it's good for you, we do believe from what we feel that we have some edge, not sure since there's no mathematical explanation on it, it's just luck that matters. With luck behind you, the chances of hitting something huge is very possible. but also, it depends if how you deal with your money managements, there are adjustment that you needed to take care to balance and to assess if you do have a good runwith the strategy that you are using.
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If you play x100 without changing the stake per 100 reels, your balance could be negative meanwhile I always change the bet amount in every 100 rolls this way I can cover the losses on the initial 100 rolls and I also started with a low amount. BTW I agree that nothing is certain in gambling, people are just trying to get more opportunities if you feel that way and you do benefiting from that strategy then it's good for you, we do believe from what we feel that we have some edge, not sure since there's no mathematical explanation on it, it's just luck that matters. ~ Indeed, saying that changing seeds doesn't improve one's chances of winning we probably must add that it doesn't decrease them either. So, if someone feels good from changing seeds, then why not? After all, this practice can lead to better understanding of the mechanics of provably fair dice game. And getting some new knowledge is always a good thing.
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If you play x100 without changing the stake per 100 reels, your balance could be negative meanwhile I always change the bet amount in every 100 rolls this way I can cover the losses on the initial 100 rolls and I also started with a low amount. BTW I agree that nothing is certain in gambling, people are just trying to get more opportunities if you feel that way and you do benefiting from that strategy then it's good for you, we do believe from what we feel that we have some edge, not sure since there's no mathematical explanation on it, it's just luck that matters. ~ Indeed, saying that changing seeds doesn't improve one's chances of winning we probably must add that it doesn't decrease them either. So, if someone feels good from changing seeds, then why not? After all, this practice can lead to better understanding of the mechanics of provably fair dice game. And getting some new knowledge is always a good thing. Afaik, the result is generated by player seed + server seed + nonce... It doesn't matter how many times I changed seed but the same red streak never getting close to an end. It is kinda psychological rather than fairness, IMHO. For a small example, the crash has a higher house edge on some platforms(around 3%) while the same game has a low house edge on Stake(exactly 1%). All results were pre-generated and the testers have verified the RTP after testing 1 billion crash bets with super algorithms. It is kinda impossible to blame seed if all outcomes were generated based on RTP... Just my 2 cents..
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Afaik, the result is generated by player seed + server seed + nonce... It doesn't matter how many times I changed seed but the same red streak never getting close to an end. It is kinda psychological rather than fairness, IMHO. The importance of having a server seed that can be changed is to reveal the older server seed in order to use that to verify the bets placed before that instant. That is the reason people are given the option to "rerandomize" the seeds. When you are betting the server seed is unknown - for obvious reasons otherwise you will be cheating the system. When you are done betting you can verify your bets to be fair by revealing the older server seed which was active all along. It seems to me that many new players may not actually be knowing how to verify bets which is why they ask this question or have this idea that changing seeds means changing your chance of winning - its not so.
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Indeed, saying that changing seeds doesn't improve one's chances of winning we probably must add that it doesn't decrease them either. So, if someone feels good from changing seeds, then why not? After all, this practice can lead to better understanding of the mechanics of provably fair dice game. And getting some new knowledge is always a good thing. Yeah right, I don't argue with your statement, it's not adding or decreasing anything. If the player/gambler feels like he needed to change the seed, it's he's right to do so, If he believes that the chance may change or if luck permits him after changing the seeds then so be it Gamblers always looking for new knowledge, they are aiming to win and establishing system that they can use each time they gamble.
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Afaik, the result is generated by player seed + server seed + nonce... It doesn't matter how many times I changed seed but the same red streak never getting close to an end. It is kinda psychological rather than fairness, IMHO. The importance of having a server seed that can be changed is to reveal the older server seed in order to use that to verify the bets placed before that instant. That is the reason people are given the option to "rerandomize" the seeds. When you are betting the server seed is unknown - for obvious reasons otherwise you will be cheating the system. When you are done betting you can verify your bets to be fair by revealing the older server seed which was active all along. It seems to me that many new players may not actually be knowing how to verify bets which is why they ask this question or have this idea that changing seeds means changing your chance of winning - its not so. I agree and have nothing to add to your statement. That is nice to see someone has shared the same opinion with me, thanks for the heads up  Btw, it is always better to ask here rather than keep searching on the other gambling forums. I was looking for an answer to why the Stake and Primedice team don't allow to merge both accounts and found a decent answer by a Stake team member. If I had such a chance to merge accounts on both platforms, surely my current Stake account now is diamond VIP rank.
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Yeah right, I don't argue with your statement, it's not adding or decreasing anything. If the player/gambler feels like he needed to change the seed, it's he's right to do so, If he believes that the chance may change or if luck permits him after changing the seeds then so be it Gamblers always looking for new knowledge, they are aiming to win and establishing system that they can use each time they gamble. True. Take me, for example. Knowing well that it has nothing to do with reality, I feel like I should hit below 1.00 after hitting above 98.99, so I change sides right away, and sometimes it works for me, but it's not like a knowledge that I can use to be winning more playing dice. Rather, it's adding more fun to the game, that's all. 
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Yeah right, I don't argue with your statement, it's not adding or decreasing anything. If the player/gambler feels like he needed to change the seed, it's he's right to do so, If he believes that the chance may change or if luck permits him after changing the seeds then so be it Gamblers always looking for new knowledge, they are aiming to win and establishing system that they can use each time they gamble. True. Take me, for example. Knowing well that it has nothing to do with reality, I feel like I should hit below 1.00 after hitting above 98.99, so I change sides right away, and sometimes it works for me, but it's not like a knowledge that I can use to be winning more playing dice. Rather, it's adding more fun to the game, that's all.  Smiling while reading your post  , as it's happening to some gamblers, thinking that after hitting good odds then switch to the otherside, I like the idea of adding it out with the enjoyment that you are gaining while playing, both sides are in win win places, you as gambler you fulfil your desire being entertained, while with the house side, they'll able to keep the gamblers to continue playing.
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Lurking a few highrollers on Primedice I was asking myself: why is a 0.001 BTC bet considered to be under the HR requirement? I guess it is the sign of time passing: 5/6 years ago one would have considered a 100 or 1000 btc bet like high rolls. Sometimes I tend to forget what bitcoin was able to achieve in such a short lifespan (and it is not over yet). 
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March 09, 2021, 12:54:36 AM |
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Lurking a few highrollers on Primedice I was asking myself: why is a 0.001 BTC bet considered to be under the HR requirement? I guess it is the sign of time passing: 5/6 years ago one would have considered a 100 or 1000 btc bet like high rolls. Sometimes I tend to forget what bitcoin was able to achieve in such a short lifespan (and it is not over yet).  Would you consider anything less than $50 bet a HIGH roll? And the last update in that value, if I am not wrong, was made @2018 and back then definitely 100 BTC were not worth just a few bucks lol
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acquafredda
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March 09, 2021, 03:07:58 PM |
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Lurking a few highrollers on Primedice I was asking myself: why is a 0.001 BTC bet considered to be under the HR requirement? I guess it is the sign of time passing: 5/6 years ago one would have considered a 100 or 1000 btc bet like high rolls. Sometimes I tend to forget what bitcoin was able to achieve in such a short lifespan (and it is not over yet).  Would you consider anything less than $50 bet a HIGH roll? And the last update in that value, if I am not wrong, was made @2018 and back then definitely 100 BTC were not worth just a few bucks lol Anything below $1000 is not High rolling for me. High rolls need to be high by definition: I understand that we are speculating about personal evaluation, since for me $50 is not HR while for someone else it is. Personally speaking, I would not like to see my 0.001 bets on the high roll board, but I guess that is just me.
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