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[ttman]

Its just to support developer or u can pay for that feature where u can leave some msg to some user and that msg gets delivered to him when he gets online. Which i think its rly cool feature , and it costs 0.0004btc per msg, and its taken from amount u donated to chatbot.

What about the people that can't chat?  I am one of those people! 

Usually I have to refresh/restart my browser about 30-40 times an hour to see chat, but lately, I cannot chat, or see new messages until I refresh, then I see old messages.

This happens to me yesterday . Send msg and email to support seems nobody bother abt this Just need advise ( im on Version 37.0.2062.94 m ).  . And currently is the site down again ?

[goose20]

As Primedice3 opening days are coming to a close the faucet is soon going to be decreased a bit. It is currently giving out over 3 BTC a day which is a lot higher than we expected. This is mainly due to abuse.

Stunna, I consider you maybe top 10 def top 20 of members I would trust on this forum - but your statement above could be construed as misleading.

Are you saying simply that over 3 btc a day is being claimed from the faucet? Or are you actually paying out (people withdrawing) over 3 btc a day that can be traced back to an initial faucet claim?

Two quite different things. The former doesn't say much as most people claim faucet, gamble it, lose it and repeat - you are not out of pocket at all.

The later says a lot, and I would be surprised you kept it for so long if this was the case. Marketing kudos to you.

Cheers mate

Claimed. We have an average roll over of about 4x the faucet amount before it is lost. Meaning when we give away money from the faucet the return to house is only 4%.

We like to say what is claimed from the faucet is basically withdrawn, minus 3 - 5% depending on variance.

Thanks for the reply. And for always being upfront and transparent

[zzaza]

As Primedice3 opening days are coming to a close the faucet is soon going to be decreased a bit. It is currently giving out over 3 BTC a day which is a lot higher than we expected. This is mainly due to abuse.

Well this is bad news. I can understand you lose with it a bit, but it is really not fair to change it so, that it was not even an option when PD3 was announced. Many people spend 8-10-12 or more hours there just to increase their faucet. Now you will rip them from that. At least you should have announced at the first day that there is a possibility that the whole system(faucet) can eventually be changed. Im devastated of these news. Have deposited all my btc, and lost, now im trying everything to get an even higher faucet and it will be decreased. It will be a big disappointment, but i guess gambling sites are always for the big whales and not for user who dont have btc just enthusiasm and perseverance (no, im not talking about abuse, i never abused it...). I'm really sad now, i think i spent 14-15 hours a day at PD in the last two weeks but i feel like it was for nothing, im in a negative balance and the possibility to get it back will be taken away or at least be much harder... I hope im not offensive, but i had to say it.

[dooglus]

Well this is bad news. I can understand you lose with it a bit, but it is really not fair to change it so, that it was not even an option when PD3 was announced.

I can't believe all these people complaining that the faucet that gives them free money every minute is going to be giving them less free money in the future.

Nobody ever said the faucet would run forever. What makes you all feel so entitled to free money?

[pthnmj]

Zzazza: I don't think this is a bad idea... He could say FUCK you all .... And give you ZERO | People like you need to jump off a cliff..


"Feed the needy, not the greedy"

On a real note: Am I the only not able to connect?

[goose20]

Are you saying simply that over 3 btc a day is being claimed from the faucet? Or are you actually paying out (people withdrawing) over 3 btc a day that can be traced back to an initial faucet claim?

Two quite different things. The former doesn't say much as most people claim faucet, gamble it, lose it and repeat - you are not out of pocket at all.

In theory there shouldn't be a huge difference between the two numbers. The house edge is pretty small.

If you give out 1000 satoshis, but don't let people withdraw until they have 100k satoshis, you're going to see about 99 out of ever 100 gifts be lost, but 1 in 100 will turn into 100k and get withdrawn.

As we've seen on the various sites that make their actual profit vs. turnover public, the actual profit made by dice sites is often very different than the expected profit, but as a first approximation you can expect to lose roughly the same amount that you give out in the long run.

Agreed. But theory is just that...theory.
Reality seems to find a way to never quite match what's expected lol.

The differing psychology in play and utility value we have with the faucet amount is what throws normal theory out the door here imo. As evidenced by normal house edge of ~1% v faucet edge of ~4%.

I'm no statistician, but isnt that a massive difference?
The amount is so low, endless and free that no one hesitates to lose it almost immediately. I truly believe that the actual payout from the faucet is alot less than the expected payout. And all faucet claims are returned to the house rather quickly.

I also think the faucet played a part in PDs success, and should be considered an asset to the company rather than a simple liability.  Just my opinions though. Im not privy to any hard data.

[MICRO]

Well this is bad news. I can understand you lose with it a bit, but it is really not fair to change it so, that it was not even an option when PD3 was announced.

I can't believe all these people complaining that the faucet that gives them free money every minute is going to be giving them less free money in the future.

Nobody ever said the faucet would run forever. What makes you all feel so entitled to free money?

Exactly . And faucet was supposed to be used to test out the site.

And for new people in bitcoin so they can see how it works , maybe even get some small cashout , and get into it a bit.

And not to be used all day each day .

And faucet will still be there , just won't be this high. 100 satoshi is more than enough to test the site, 1000 sat is more than enough to make couple of cashouts per day. And that should be enough.

[sickhouse]

As Primedice3 opening days are coming to a close the faucet is soon going to be decreased a bit. It is currently giving out over 3 BTC a day which is a lot higher than we expected. This is mainly due to abuse.

And how much is a bit? I wont play more if it's like 50%, and many other will quit too (use both faucet and deposits). 3 BTC, but how much do you make a typical day? Take the akcoinminer user for instance, and the other people with too much btc at their hands..

[Barnabe]

The problem IMO is that many people thought the faucet would be here forever so they betted more to have a higher level.
In their point of view it was like an investment. Lower/delete the faucet would lower their ROI...

[Jaaawsh]

Well this is bad news. I can understand you lose with it a bit, but it is really not fair to change it so, that it was not even an option when PD3 was announced.

I can't believe all these people complaining that the faucet that gives them free money every minute is going to be giving them less free money in the future.

Nobody ever said the faucet would run forever. What makes you all feel so entitled to free money?

Exactly . And faucet was supposed to be used to test out the site.

And for new people in bitcoin so they can see how it works , maybe even get some small cashout , and get into it a bit.

And not to be used all day each day .

And faucet will still be there , just won't be this high. 100 satoshi is more than enough to test the site, 1000 sat is more than enough to make couple of cashouts per day. And that should be enough.

You're joking right?

A high faucet that we could level up is what was advertised for PD3 and the reasons why a lot of users have spent so much time on it recently.

If it goes down to that much I'd never play here again I'm sorry, not just because the high faucet would be gone but because it's wrong to go back on stuff like this.


I don't know about other people, but the little bitcoin that I had, I deposited here and played with in the hopes of
1. Winning
2. Building Up the faucet.
But #2 right there is a VERY close first.

[Jaaawsh]

The problem IMO is that many people thought the faucet would be here forever so they betted more to have a higher level.
In their point of view it was like an investment. Lower/delete the faucet would lower their ROI...

YES, it's almost like a second chance investment kind of thing that drew me to PD3, if that goes away so do I.

[sickhouse]

I've also made a lot of deposits to raise my level by playing. Spent a lot of time lately, to gain level - this is a terrible PR move, and a fuck you to us users who waited over 9 months since it first was announced to be released "next month"...

[zzaza]

I agree that it is free money, i wouldnt feel this way if pd3 wouldnt have been advertised with the whole level system and increasing faucet. I liked PD2 and the 1k sat faucet i was happy with it, but then it offered a more bigger opportunity, and that will be taken away. Thats why most of us feel a bit ripped... But whatever, at least it was and will be a few fun week... Maybe you should increase the minimum payout to 100k or even more, just for testing to see what that does...

[GaleMartins]

Exactly . And faucet was supposed to be used to test out the site.

And for new people in bitcoin so they can see how it works , maybe even get some small cashout , and get into it a bit.

And not to be used all day each day .

And faucet will still be there , just won't be this high. 100 satoshi is more than enough to test the site, 1000 sat is more than enough to make couple of cashouts per day. And that should be enough.

Not sure I understand your point, MICRO.

My impression is that primedice3 is no longer just a high-low dice game.
It is a new type of game, that requires a strategy.
The rules of the game were set, and and the players decided their strategy.
It may be that the strategy of some players is to risk losing some money
at the beginning expecting to recover later.
Changing the rules in the middle of the game does not seem right to me.

Having said that, I understand it is possible that the rules may need to change
if the game is not sustainable. But then should't just the site issue an apology,
instead of accusing the players for doing what the rules allowed them to do?

I really do not get your point MICRO.

[Jaaawsh]

Well this is bad news. I can understand you lose with it a bit, but it is really not fair to change it so, that it was not even an option when PD3 was announced.

I can't believe all these people complaining that the faucet that gives them free money every minute is going to be giving them less free money in the future.

Nobody ever said the faucet would run forever. What makes you all feel so entitled to free money?

Actually yeah, a high faucet was promised for PD3.

[flippy]

The faucet needs to be changed somehow, but ideally it shouldn't punish those who already spent time and money on the site under the impression that they were being rewarded with an increased faucet, which is now possibly going to be decimated. Of course, it's not supposed to be a guaranteed 'get your money back eventually' thing either and it does have the risk that people only care about boosting the faucet, and then they don't really contribute to the site.

Perhaps there should be some kind of limit on how much the faucet can be used within a certain time period - a player would have some kind of 'faucet credits' which replenish one per hour up to a certain limit (and could also be awarded for good site behaviour?), but if the player doesn't have faucet credits, they can still claim it at a reduced level, enough to keep them hooked and wanting to deposit again.

Alternatively, maybe add some strings to the faucet - if a player's current bankroll started from the faucet, flag it, so that a player can't tip/pvp/withdraw until they reach a certain amount. This would then allow tips/pvp for small amounts for depositing players to be restored since they wouldn't contribute to faucet abuse, which would improve the mood of the site again.

[apsvinet]

Why not just do like many gambling sites do and just let you play for nonexistent currency. Like a faucet that gives you some sort of currency, but it's not bitcoins, it's sole purpose is to try the site out. Think there are sites that use these kinds of "fun-points" (name optional).

[dankkk]

i think 1btc sounds like a fair faucet amount

[dooglus]

The differing psychology in play and utility value we have with the faucet amount is what throws normal theory out the door here imo. As evidenced by normal house edge of ~1% v faucet edge of ~4%.

Where do you see that the faucet has an "edge of ~4%"?

That sounds like crazy talk to me... are you suggesting that the laws of mathematics are affected by the emotions of the person running a deterministic random number generation algorithm such that they lose a bigger percentage of the amount they risk when playing with free coins than when they are risking their own coins? Because that's what it sounds like you are saying. If not, what does "faucet edge" even mean?

Actually yeah, a high faucet was promised for PD3.

If it's the case that players were promised a certain level of faucet payouts, and that promise is now being broken, then that's no good.

I never saw anything like that in the talk leading up to the release of PD3 - from what I remember it was mostly vague "there will be levels" type stuff, nothing specific, and so changing details like the amount the faucet pays out isn't breaking any promise.

Maybe you can quote the post that made the promise you feel is now being broken.

[Anastasio]

To be honest, the faucet amount changing isn't a big deal. Isn't the purpose of the faucet to test out the site and allow those who don't want to use their own bitcoins the ability to still gamble? What's the difference between 250sat and 100sat when it comes to this? Not much in my opinion.