[ANN] [RPX] Red Pulse Token – Next Generation Intelligence and Content Ecosystem

[Crazytrader]

The problem is they think we are like chinese people, they send us a mail saying :
Not even sorry for telling you for weeks this is TIME based, even if almost everybody asked a billion time to be sure. Not even sorry to give unfair advantage to a handful of people in a closed slack. This is how it is and deal with it.

We are not living in a communist country and we have many way to get justice. They are gonna understand it the hard way, keep up with legal action and this ico is canceled in less than two month. Remember last month all the ico canceled for way less than that fraud

[aziernest]

The problem is they think we are like chinese people, they send us a mail saying :
Not even sorry for telling you for weeks this is TIME based, even if almost everybody asked a billion time to be sure. Not even sorry to give unfair advantage to a handful of people in a closed slack. This is how it is and deal with it.

We are not living in a communist country and we have many way to get justice. They are gonna understand it the hard way, keep up with legal action and this ico is canceled in less than two month. Remember last month all the ico canceled for way less than that fraud

next time jonathon or his redpulse team do any ico, i believe they will say something like that, but i guess it was their first time, and they themselves were inexperienced / unaware of such situation, hence couldn't tell beforehand, only after it happened.

[kazanchev]

The problem is they think we are like chinese people, they send us a mail saying :
Not even sorry for telling you for weeks this is TIME based, even if almost everybody asked a billion time to be sure. Not even sorry to give unfair advantage to a handful of people in a closed slack. This is how it is and deal with it.

We are not living in a communist country and we have many way to get justice. They are gonna understand it the hard way, keep up with legal action and this ico is canceled in less than two month. Remember last month all the ico canceled for way less than that fraud

Slack wasn't closed, are you able to understand it? There were no "secret instructions" for "chosen people".

[Seyar]

UPDATE #1

TO INVESTORS THAT INVESTED NEO INTO RPX IN BLOCK 1445025 AND ON OR AFTER 14:00:00 GMT (8-10-2017)

I'm gathering the people above to start legal actions against Red Pulse for denying RPX tokens to those that properly invested according to all stated rules for the Red Pulse ICO.
If you are willing to take legal action against Red Pulse as a group if they do not sent out the correct amount of RPX to those in the above block and timeframe which grants you legal ownership of the RPX tokens you invested for then please send me an PM on this forum.

DO NOT send me a PM if you are not within this block and timeframe, and only if you have evidence showing that you are within. Let me know in the PM you are interested in taking these steps and please provide ONLY your TxID, nothing else! I need to have the TxIDs so I can confirm your investement is in the above block and timeframe. People in block 1445026 DID receive RPX tokens while they were LATER then those who did it on the correct time in block 1445025!

If Red Pulse will not correct this matter theirself then we can take legal actions on behalf of all the investors in the above timeframe. Spread the word please. I am serious about this matter cause its a huge screw up and even so illegal to handle investments this way as they want to do now by giving all the earliest investors a simple NEO refund.

Please be sure to ONLY PM if you can provide proof later on and are in the above block and timeframe!

Sincerely.

First of all thanks for the huge response in PM's. I am not able to reply to all of them.

After their official statement it now looks they will not honor the RPX tokens to the people who invested between 14:00:00GMT and 14:01:39GMT. This is against their own ICO ruleset and everything they communicated.
With this in mind I have reached out to about 7 law firms which reside in Hong Kong and have explained the current issue and what the possibilities are for those willing to take legal actions as a group.

If things will move on we will have to make some structure for this group, but first I would like to have a lawfirm that is willing to take on this matter and would like to represent this group of investors. After all cryptocurrency is not a daily routine for most lawfirms, however some have already got experienced cases in them which is quite good. Keep an eye on this thread, once things are progressing we will probably need people to somehow identify themself to the said lawfirm and a definite count would have to be made of those participating. But lets not walk ahead of ourself and await replies from the different lawfirms that have been contacted now.  

I will keep you up to date in this thread. PM's are still welcome to get a estimate of how larger the group will become.

[guillzini]

The clock was set at 00:00:00 just at teh beginning of forst hours, then it showed a progress bar fro msome time, then second hour started, and still same progress bar, and not countdown.

Yea that sounds pretty bad. It leaves a lot of room for error if you don't indicate clearly when the second round starts. Low and behold, that's what happened.

Good luck to all stuck in the middle! I hope at least the refunds happen fast.

[mayadin]

There answer is totally unacceptable, and is a copy paste from a Reddit post, posted some time yesterday by a user.

In No communication to users, in all emails, was there a reference to a BLOCK time, and not the UNIVERSAL TIME we all know.

[roger46]

You are all a bunch of little whining bitches. So glad it happend to you all. Sick of you all. Be fucking patient.

P.S. 1st hour was fair, 2nd was a lottery

LOL wtf dude

[aziernest]

UPDATE #1

TO INVESTORS THAT INVESTED NEO INTO RPX IN BLOCK 1445025 AND ON OR AFTER 14:00:00 GMT (8-10-2017)

I'm gathering the people above to start legal actions against Red Pulse for denying RPX tokens to those that properly invested according to all stated rules for the Red Pulse ICO.
If you are willing to take legal action against Red Pulse as a group if they do not sent out the correct amount of RPX to those in the above block and timeframe which grants you legal ownership of the RPX tokens you invested for then please send me an PM on this forum.

DO NOT send me a PM if you are not within this block and timeframe, and only if you have evidence showing that you are within. Let me know in the PM you are interested in taking these steps and please provide ONLY your TxID, nothing else! I need to have the TxIDs so I can confirm your investement is in the above block and timeframe. People in block 1445026 DID receive RPX tokens while they were LATER then those who did it on the correct time in block 1445025!

If Red Pulse will not correct this matter theirself then we can take legal actions on behalf of all the investors in the above timeframe. Spread the word please. I am serious about this matter cause its a huge screw up and even so illegal to handle investments this way as they want to do now by giving all the earliest investors a simple NEO refund.

Please be sure to ONLY PM if you can provide proof later on and are in the above block and timeframe!

Sincerely.

First of all thanks for the huge response in PM's. I am not able to reply to all of them.

After their official statement it now looks they will not honor the RPX tokens to the people who invested between 14:00:00GMT and 14:01:39GMT. This is against their own ICO ruleset and everything they communicated.
With this in mind I have reached out to about 7 law firms which reside in Hong Kong and have explained the current issue and what the possibilities are for those willing to take legal actions as a group.

If things will move on we will have to make some structure for this group, but first I would like to have a lawfirm that is willing to take on this matter and would like to represent this group of investors. After all cryptocurrency is not a daily routine for most lawfirms, however some have already got experienced cases in them which is quite good. Keep an eye on this thread, once things are progressing we will probably need people to somehow identify themself to the said lawfirm and a definite count would have to be made of those participating. But lets not walk ahead of ourself and await replies from the different lawfirms that have been contacted now.  

I will keep you up to date in this thread. PM's are still welcome to get a estimate of how larger the group will become.

I seriously doubt going legal would be beneficial.

[mayadin]

I seriously doubt going legal would be beneficial.

What makes you say so?

[aziernest]

I seriously doubt going legal would be beneficial.

What makes you say so?

do you think they just did what they did without consulting their lawyers ?
They already have a legal team, and they consult them before taking any such step which may have legal consequences.

it's possible they are doing without lawyers {but chances are pretty slim for this} and in that case it could lend them into serious trouble.

[mayadin]

Of course they may have a legal advisors and son, but that doesn't take away they have a fault ot make right.
Problem here is the communication was misleading about the time.
Second round starts 1 exact hour after sale start, irrespective of what block is in progress, and what block is getting queued.

[Crazytrader]

They have lawyers but theses lawyers could not anticipate a mistake in a code that cause hundreds of thousands of dollars of prejudice. Lawyers are here to advise but they can't avoid unprofessionalism, human mistakes and frauds. They certainly didn't advise to make a fraudulent development of this ICO. They probably have advised the team to calm the victims of the fraud because they knows if it go legal they lose.

[aziernest]

They have lawyers but theses lawyers could not anticipate a mistake in a code that cause hundreds of thousands of dollars of prejudice. Lawyers are here to advise but they can't avoid unprofessionalism, human mistakes and frauds. They certainly didn't advise to make a fraudulent development of this ICO. They probably have advised the team to calm the victims of the fraud because they knows if it go legal they lose.

their statement for rpx sale came after ico was ended for more than 20 hours, so what I assume is they consulted their lawyers, and tell them what happened, and prepare before giving statement.

I WOULD LOVE TO BE WRONG, LET'S SEE :-)

[mayadin]

They have lawyers but theses lawyers could not anticipate a mistake in a code that cause hundreds of thousands of dollars of prejudice. Lawyers are here to advise but they can't avoid unprofessionalism, human mistakes and frauds. They certainly didn't advise to make a fraudulent development of this ICO. They probably have advised the team to calm the victims of the fraud because they knows if it go legal they lose.

Agree with you. Criminals have lawyers as well, don't they. Does this mean civil victims are not going to win from them in Court.

Let's not start thinking that way.
We have a case, it has to be put to justice.

[MsCollec]

Didn;t you guys read the purchase agreement..lol


I'm sure they can be sue.

The bad press should probably sinks the coin value on the market, and most people are planing on dumping their phase 1 token due to this drama.

[xsaints128]

First Ico on Neo experienced some hiccups for the second round but I think the first round was really fair and worked great (the email just took some time to arrive ;p).
But remember some of ETH Ico which were so much worse and that didn't even have a first fair round.

I agree with you. The 1st round was quite fair. I don't know about the 2nd round because i was able to invest in the 1st round along with the majority of the contributors.

[Seyar]

UPDATE #1

TO INVESTORS THAT INVESTED NEO INTO RPX IN BLOCK 1445025 AND ON OR AFTER 14:00:00 GMT (8-10-2017)

I'm gathering the people above to start legal actions against Red Pulse for denying RPX tokens to those that properly invested according to all stated rules for the Red Pulse ICO.
If you are willing to take legal action against Red Pulse as a group if they do not sent out the correct amount of RPX to those in the above block and timeframe which grants you legal ownership of the RPX tokens you invested for then please send me an PM on this forum.

DO NOT send me a PM if you are not within this block and timeframe, and only if you have evidence showing that you are within. Let me know in the PM you are interested in taking these steps and please provide ONLY your TxID, nothing else! I need to have the TxIDs so I can confirm your investement is in the above block and timeframe. People in block 1445026 DID receive RPX tokens while they were LATER then those who did it on the correct time in block 1445025!

If Red Pulse will not correct this matter theirself then we can take legal actions on behalf of all the investors in the above timeframe. Spread the word please. I am serious about this matter cause its a huge screw up and even so illegal to handle investments this way as they want to do now by giving all the earliest investors a simple NEO refund.

Please be sure to ONLY PM if you can provide proof later on and are in the above block and timeframe!

Sincerely.

First of all thanks for the huge response in PM's. I am not able to reply to all of them.

After their official statement it now looks they will not honor the RPX tokens to the people who invested between 14:00:00GMT and 14:01:39GMT. This is against their own ICO ruleset and everything they communicated.
With this in mind I have reached out to about 7 law firms which reside in Hong Kong and have explained the current issue and what the possibilities are for those willing to take legal actions as a group.

If things will move on we will have to make some structure for this group, but first I would like to have a lawfirm that is willing to take on this matter and would like to represent this group of investors. After all cryptocurrency is not a daily routine for most lawfirms, however some have already got experienced cases in them which is quite good. Keep an eye on this thread, once things are progressing we will probably need people to somehow identify themself to the said lawfirm and a definite count would have to be made of those participating. But lets not walk ahead of ourself and await replies from the different lawfirms that have been contacted now.  

I will keep you up to date in this thread. PM's are still welcome to get a estimate of how larger the group will become.

I seriously doubt going legal would be beneficial.

So you would suggest that these kind of things are allowed to happen and we all should just accept it? Lets say this happened with Google, Facebook or the Alibaba IPO. It's not acceptable and if their official statement is to exclude all investors between 14:00:00GMT and 14:01:39GMT then they have to deal with the consequences and looking at the first 2 replies I've got, there will be consequences for sure.

[MsCollec]

Options for resolving this Dispute

1. Allocate tokens to people in block 1445026
2. Cancel phase 2 and refund everyone
3. Refund NEO based on the rate equals or higher at the time of the ico contributions plus bonus.

[silver12si]

You could cry or go forward...second is best!

[amacar1]

My transaction was in block 025 but I can still see all RPXs (from first hour and from second hour) in my wallet. This is my txid: https://neotracker.io/tx/9cb57d11bbe58c22319c39752196f9861461e71872517f79b273d763ce764e41

Can anybody shed some light?